Jayden Spicer, 10, August 6, 2025 *mother arrested*

[Chimera]

Spousal privilege means husband can't be compelled to testify about anything his wife may have told him - right?

I think so ?
Anyone here with more 'legalese' ?

 

[AVK_2020]

I agree. Normal loving parents call 911 and even may beg them to resusitate a child who is clearly gone. Even if the child OD'd on illegal drugs, I have heard of cases where the parents claimed the child must have found the drugs playing outside.

Hiding their body often means wanting to hide abuse. But let's see. Just speculation.

I've wondered how long he's possibly been deceased. She had to come up with some reason he wasn't with his siblings when school started. She's admitted that his siblings were coached as to what to say about his disappearance. Imagine how they felt. She's a pitiful excuse for a mother.

 

[Coppertop15]

I've wondered how long he's possibly been deceased. She had to come up with some reason he wasn't with his siblings when school started. She's admitted that his siblings were coached as to what to say about his disappearance. Imagine how they felt. She's a pitiful excuse for a mother.

That was the first thing I thought when I saw the timing. Someone realized that the system would be watching.

 

[Leilei]

Spousal privilege means husband can't be compelled to testify about anything his wife may have told him - right?

It may not apply if the spouses are co-conspirators.
Fingers crossed.
IMO.

 

[Leilei]

MOO while I agree we probably will find out she’s not referring to melatonin gummies, this fentanyl-related myth persists and causes people to refuse to help in emergencies. Luckily, one can’t OD on fentanyl this way. From UC Davis:

Can fentanyl be absorbed through the skin or by touching an item or surface where it is present?​

It is a common misconception that fentanyl can be absorbed through the skin, but it is not true for casual exposure. You can't overdose on fentanyl by touching a doorknob or dollar bill. The one case in which fentanyl can be absorbed through the skin is with a special doctor-prescribed fentanyl skin patch, and even then, it takes hours of exposure

Thank you for bringing this forward. Fent is absolutely dangerous, but an OD due to random touch is extremely rare.
IMO.

 

[AVK_2020]

That was the first thing I thought when I saw the timing. Someone realized that the system would be watching.

As soon as they said he went to bed, and they woke up the next morning and discovered he was gone, just up and vanished, figured he'd not be found alive. That song and dance seems to show up quite often in these type of cases.

 

[AVK_2020]

It may not apply if the spouses are co-conspirators.
Fingers crossed.
IMO.

In Kentucky they do not have that privilege if:

"(c) Exceptions. There is no privilege under this rule. 1) In any criminal proceeding in which the court determines that the spouses conspired or acted jointly in the commission of the crime charged;(2) In any proceeding in which one (1) spouse is charged with wrongful conduct against the person or property of A) The other;(B) A minor child of either;(C) An individual residing in the household of either; or(D) A third person if the wrongful conduct is committed in the course of wrongful conduct against any of the individuals previously named in this sentence; or(3) In any proceeding in which the spouses are adverse parties."

https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/law/statutes/statute.aspx?id=20378

 

[Linear13]

Another child lost. Murdered by those who supposed to love him. Failed by a system that was supposed to protect him. CPS in this county needs some accountability. How many others are out there? Being drugged by their own feral ‘parents’ who never wanted them to begin with. Then after all is said and done these ‘parents’ are only being charged with 2nd degree! Our country is falling apart from within.

 

[Bounceycat]

Then after all is said and done these ‘parents’ are only being charged with 2nd degree! Our country is falling apart from within.

Justice can't happen overnight. I have zero doubt that once the autopsy is completed, charges will be upgraded and added to, and stepfather will be charged as well. JMO.

 

[AngTxGal]

Finally we can see more pictures of this little boy.
She drugged him, he needed medical condition, she put him in a container and buried him, and then she coached the other kids to lie, lied to first responders, wrote a note to those that may see him, and destroyed evidence

Kentucky has the death penalty


RIP little Jayden, the betrayal of a parent is horrific

IMO

 

[Tortoise]

I'm willing to bet that someone went out and bought a tote. Who has empty totes that size just lying around? Unless Jayden's clothes and other belongings came in one when he was moved to live with them.

That, IMO, would have been used to prevent detection of cadaver scent in a vehicle and searches of the burial ground.

 

[swanniee11]

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County Courthouse lit up red tonight for Jayden

 

[Kudzuu]

MOO while I agree we probably will find out she’s not referring to melatonin gummies, this fentanyl-related myth persists and causes people to refuse to help in emergencies. Luckily, one can’t OD on fentanyl this way. From UC Davis:

Can fentanyl be absorbed through the skin or by touching an item or surface where it is present?​

It is a common misconception that fentanyl can be absorbed through the skin, but it is not true for casual exposure. You can't overdose on fentanyl by touching a doorknob or dollar bill. The one case in which fentanyl can be absorbed through the skin is with a special doctor-prescribed fentanyl skin patch, and even then, it takes hours of exposure

WKYT reported this. LE were exposed to fentanyl in homes where the touched items that exposed them to fentanyl and got sick. They didn't die though.

This was a couple of years ago. The issue wasn't skin absorbtion but touching your mouth or breathing in the powder.

Sorry no link. So MOO.

Maybe they misreported.

 

[tlcya]

Mother charged after body of missing Kentucky boy found buried

waiting to hear WHEN Jayden died because he sure didn't die the night before he was reported missing. IMO it would take time to discover him dead, load his body into a tote, drag it into a vehicle, drive to the disposal location, dig a hole, drag the tote out of the vehicle and bury it. That didn't IMO happen in the morning, prior to the report. And I doubt it happened in the dead of night. So when exactly did this child die?

All reports, including the affidavit give no hint as to DOD. I cannot imagine LE didn't get that information from GROSS/Spicer. Which makes me think we are going to be further outraged when we learn when all this went down. JMO

 

[tlcya]

Father Jim is partnering with ‘Soul Shine Industries’ to make Jayden a customized Spider-Man themed casket.

Breathitt County Schools are asking students and staff to wear blue for Jayden tomorrow and Friday.

There will be another vigil for Jayden at 8:30 on Saturday at Douthitt Park in Jackson.
‘It’s a nightmare; I just feel like I can’t wake up from’: Community vigil held for Jayden Spicer

 

[Inthedetails]

Father Jim is partnering with ‘Soul Shine Industries’ to make Jayden a customized Spider-Man themed casket.

Breathitt County Schools are asking students and staff to wear blue for Jayden tomorrow and Friday.

There will be another vigil for Jayden at 8:30 on Saturday at Douthitt Park in Jackson.
‘It’s a nightmare; I just feel like I can’t wake up from’: Community vigil held for Jayden Spicer

When I was in 5th grade, a classmate was hit by a car and in a coma for a couple of months. I remember my teacher telling us he wouldn't pull through (what a thing to say!) But, he recovered!

Anyway, my point is, the situation was really upsetting and has stayed with me my whole life. It didn't hinder my life, not making that claim, but I empathize with the school kids experiencing a situation even worse than the one I remember at that age. It's confusing to process something sad while still enjoying life yourself (as we should).

All the best to them.

jmopinion

 

[GypsySoulAL]

A Spiderman-themed casket. I can't.

 

[LovesPeace2]

I'm so glad they found him,the egg donor( I can't call her parent or mother she doesn't deserve it) needs the death penalty, to be honest all child killers deserve that maybe then people would think twice before killing a child lwop is to easy.
But 2nd degree manslaughter for a child is insulting. Hopefully after the autopsy they up the charges.
Justice for Jayden may he be resting peacefully with his grandma now. Jmvho

 

[tlcya]

I think so ?
Anyone here with more 'legalese' ?

Rule 504 Husband-wife privilege (a) Spousal testimony.
The spouse of a party has a privilege to refuse to testify against the party as to events occurring after the date of their marriage. A party has a privilege to prevent his or her spouse from testifying against the party as to events occurring after the date of their marriage.

(b) Marital communications. An individual has a privilege to refuse to testify and to prevent another from testifying to any confidential communication made by the individual to his or her spouse during their marriage. The privilege may be asserted only by the individual holding the privilege or by the holder's guardian, conservator, or personal representative. A communication is confidential if it is made privately by an individual to his or her spouse and is not intended for disclosure to any other person.

(c) Exceptions. There is no privilege under this rule:

(1) In any criminal proceeding in which the court determines that the spouses conspired or acted jointly in the commission of the crime charged;

(2) In any proceeding in which one (1) spouse is charged with wrongful conduct against the person or property of:
(A) The other;
(B) A minor child of either;
(C) An individual residing in the household of either; or
(D) A third person if the wrongful conduct is committed in the course of wrongful conduct against any of the individuals previously named in this sentence; or

(3) In any proceeding in which the spouses are adverse parties.
(d) Minor child. The court may refuse to allow the privilege in any proceeding if the interests of a minor child of either spouse may be adversely affected. Effective: May 31, 2006 History: Enacted 1990 Ky. Acts ch. 88, sec. 26; amended 1992 Ky. Acts ch. 324, sec. 9; renumbered (7/1/92) pursuant to 1992 Ky. Acts ch. 324, sec. 34; amended May 31, 2006, Supreme Court of Kentucky Order 2006-06.

MOO spousal privilege would not apply here. Because it involves a crime against the person of a minor child within their household. But IANAL. We have some excellent verified attorneys at WS, I am sure one of them can weigh in on whether I am interpreting correctly

ETA as to the red, I suspect that one will come into play as well.

 

[Serononin]

I'm willing to bet that someone went out and bought a tote. Who has empty totes that size just lying around? Unless Jayden's clothes and other belongings came in one when he was moved to live with them.

That, IMO, would have been used to prevent detection of cadaver scent in a vehicle and searches of the burial ground.

I was thinking the kind of tote people use to store Christmas trees, but if they were living in a trailer idk if they had that much storage space? I imagine more details will emerge at some point