Jeffrey Dahmer linked to Adam Walsh murder!

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  • #21
LovelyPigeon said:
Here's the link to the case story on AMW: http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=39789

It's so horrible that there are 2 people (Toole and Dahmer) known to be capable of what happened to Adam.
In perspective, it would be WONDERFUL if there were ONLY two people capable of this.
 
  • #22
GlitchWizard said:
I am more likely to believe a confession than a denial. Personally, recanting a confession is not something I take seriously.

I used to be the same, but I've read of so many coerced confessions of late, I'm not sure any more. (But I don't think coercion is an issue in this instance.)
 
  • #23
Glitch, do you mind if I ask what part of town you live in? (I'm not asking you for anything too specific.)

I lived on Bellevue or Belvedere (I forget) Avenue up the hill from the stadium for a couple of years in the mid-70s when I was at FSU. My mother, brother and sister lived in Tallahassee for many years. (My mom retired to Gainesville recently.)

(If this is too personal, of course you should just say so. I apologize in advance.)
 
  • #24
Murder cases often get multiple false confessions. I don't find confessions any more reliable than denials unless there is convincing information given to substantiate the confession.
 
  • #25
This is, of course, just my opinion...but, I would tend to believe Dahmer guilty of this crime more than Toole. Toole killed so many people, even he couldn't keep his stories straight. And, he seemed so fascinated with his numbers. I hope for the Walsh's sake, they find the truth.
 
  • #26
It's a shame that Dahmer was murdered in prison, even though he deserved it, because he might have opened up now after this new evidence. I recently read a book that I've seen passed on to others, I believe it was titled "The Last Victim". A young college age guy was really wanting to get into the FBI someday and thought that learning all he could about serial killers would guarantee himself a job. He wrote to Gacy, Ramirez, and Dahmer among others by portraying himself to these murderers as their perfect victim type. He was one of the very few who Dahmer actually wrote to and was about to start opening up more, but was murdered. I had always thought that Dahmer was totally nutty, but he was writing to this young man and trying to manipulate engage him in weird sexual talk and it was clear that this was his only motive for writing. It was pretty sickening and cunning.
 
  • #27
Nova said:
Glitch, do you mind if I ask what part of town you live in? (I'm not asking you for anything too specific.)

I lived on Bellevue or Belvedere (I forget) Avenue up the hill from the stadium for a couple of years in the mid-70s when I was at FSU. My mother, brother and sister lived in Tallahassee for many years. (My mom retired to Gainesville recently.)

(If this is too personal, of course you should just say so. I apologize in advance.)
Nothing is too personal. I've met hundreds of people from the online world. :-) I live between Tallahassee and Crawfordville in the woods off Crawfordville Highway, just past the Wakulla County line. I work in Tallahassee and was raised in Tallahassee. Let me think... in the mid 70's I was about seven, so I lived in some apartments behind Godby High School.
:-) My Mom didn't marry rich until I was 9. :-)
 
  • #28
GreenEyedGirl said:
This is, of course, just my opinion...but, I would tend to believe Dahmer guilty of this crime more than Toole. Toole killed so many people, even he couldn't keep his stories straight. And, he seemed so fascinated with his numbers. I hope for the Walsh's sake, they find the truth.
You're welcome to your opinion. Unfortunately, there isn't any way to know for sure yet, but since O'Toole got the murder weapon right, the number of hits with the weapon was right, the story was consistant with the coronor's finding and all the locations were right (the right Sear's parking lot, the right body of water) and there was blood on the carpet of his car, right where he said it would be from Adam. They also said he knew information only the killer would know. Someone lost the evidence in the car... which would have proven his confession completely (or not.) I guess that's partly why I'm leaning toward O'Toole rather than a stranger.

I hope we find out the truth, too. I'd always like to know if I'm right or wrong. That's part of the fun of trying to figure it out!
 
  • #29
I think Otis Toole killed Adam Walsh. Dahmer was never interested in really young boys. Toole was such a sick pervert who probably killed other kids.


Toole and Dahmer really do not look alike except they both had blonde hair, scruffy look to them. Toole was extremely unattractive with really bad teeth. He looked like a pervert.
I am not so sure there is a Walsh/Dahmer link. We probably will never know the truth.
 
  • #30
My Mom likes murder mysteries and such, so for Christmas one year I got her a Dahmer picture magnet to put... on her freezer. Anyway, a year later, she had moved it off the freezer and I asked her why. She got wide eyed and said "DAHMER?! OH I get it now!!"

...she thought that the picture was of my ex husband, and was confused why I'd give it to her. :-)

I guess they look alike!


Nocgirl said:
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Toole and Dahmer really do not look alike except they both had blonde hair, scruffy look to them....QUOTE]
 
  • #31
GlitchWizard said:
Nothing is too personal. I've met hundreds of people from the online world. :-) I live between Tallahassee and Crawfordville in the woods off Crawfordville Highway, just past the Wakulla County line. I work in Tallahassee and was raised in Tallahassee. Let me think... in the mid 70's I was about seven, so I lived in some apartments behind Godby High School.
:-) My Mom didn't marry rich until I was 9. :-)

Did you go to Godby, Glitch? If so, I'll PM you the name of my brother and sister who went there about the same time. (ETA: come to think of it, my brother is dead and my sister has a different name, so why am I being coy? They were Norman ('78) and Loraine Setchfield (Class of '80). They were probably too far ahead for you to know.)

I do remember the Crawfordville highway. Nothing much to do at FSU in 1973 but drive around. (Usually drunk, I'm afraid.)

My mom and brother lived in Miccosoukee (I've forgotten how to spell it) for 20 or so years.
 
  • #32
Nocgirl said:
I think Otis Toole killed Adam Walsh. Dahmer was never interested in really young boys. Toole was such a sick pervert who probably killed other kids.


Toole and Dahmer really do not look alike except they both had blonde hair, scruffy look to them. Toole was extremely unattractive with really bad teeth. He looked like a pervert.
I am not so sure there is a Walsh/Dahmer link. We probably will never know the truth.
I agree100%
 
  • #33
Maybe John Mark Karr killed Adam Walsh. I'd sure like them to find him guilty of SOMETHING after all the creepiness about him and Jonbenet... :rolleyes:
 
  • #34
I heard on tv last nite that an investigator who interviewed Dahmer said that the hinted that he might have something to do with the murder of Adam Walsh. Does anyone know who this investigator is? I thought it might be Robert Ressler.
 
  • #35
I think it was Otis O'Toole. Someone saw him take a little boy and put him into a big white car and that is what O' Toole was driving at the time. LE not only lost the piece of carpet with blood on it they lost the whole car! They were sending it to another state to be checked over and it disappeared. He knew to much about Adam's murder to not have been the killer.

I just heard on the news that John Walsh says that he believes the killer was O'Toole and that the stuff that is coming out now was checked out years ago. I think if Walsh had ever thought that Dalmer was the killer he would have pushed that and never stopped until it was resolved one way or the other. I think O'Toole's confession was right on. To bad that he died in jail without ever being tried for Adam's murder.
 
  • #36
Bobbisangel said:
I think it was Otis O'Toole. Someone saw him take a little boy and put him into a big white car and that is what O' Toole was driving at the time. LE not only lost the piece of carpet with blood on it they lost the whole car! They were sending it to another state to be checked over and it disappeared. He knew to much about Adam's murder to not have been the killer.

I just heard on the news that John Walsh says that he believes the killer was O'Toole and that the stuff that is coming out now was checked out years ago. I think if Walsh had ever thought that Dalmer was the killer he would have pushed that and never stopped until it was resolved one way or the other. I think O'Toole's confession was right on. To bad that he died in jail without ever being tried for Adam's murder.
I agree Bobbi.
 
  • #37
Dahmer's known victims were much older than Adam, right? Don't these guys usually have a pattern? I'm certainly no expert, but don't child molesters usually stick to children? Guys like Dahmer and Gacy killed guys in their early 20's, so why would he sexually assault and murder a child if he wasn't into kids in that way? Is this making any sense? I find myself not able to come out with the right way to express myself today. :o
 
  • #38
I understand what you meant Jeana but everytime I think a pattern exists I am reminded of Duncan. He was against the fabric of what we thought so maybe these serials have early "experimentation" to find out what they like.
 
  • #39
The article contains this quote from John Walsh.....


"Even though it's a cold case, people are coming forward who are claiming one thing, who are saying we were not taken seriously back 25, 26 years ago. So I think they have to look at this case," John Walsh told 12 News this week.

Walsh and Purtell believe new, never-revealed information in the Walsh case demands a second look at Dahmer. It's information developed by a Florida journalist who took up the Walsh investigation long after police had stopped. And now, 25 years later, the time has come.

Sounds like John is not just dismissing this 'new' info.
 
  • #40
concernedperson said:
I understand what you meant Jeana but everytime I think a pattern exists I am reminded of Duncan. He was against the fabric of what we thought so maybe these serials have early "experimentation" to find out what they like.
Maybe he started off with a child because he knew it would be easier to overpower his victim. Maybe he was 'practicing' and when he got good at it he moved onto older victims. Just a thought.
 
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