Found Deceased Jenny Hall, 23, described as a keen long distance runner, vehicle located on the B2678 between Eggleston & Stanhope, County Durham, Feb 18 2025.

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"Mobile 3 was used as a control vehicle for Lake District Search And Mountain Rescue Association's specialist drone teams, who used bespoke automated searching software."
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"And whilst we appreciate the offer of volunteers, we would ask that people do not join the search themselves as this could disturb the ongoing work and potentially distract expert sniffer dogs."
 
  • #122
I'm sure I read that her family weren't aware she was going for a run that day. I can't find it now though.
They are searching areas where she is known to have run before.

The fact that she left her phone and other devices behind makes me think this is self harm.
Have they definitely confirmed that she left her phone behind? The articles I've seen mention that they've "investigated" her devices but that could mean a lot of things.

Very strange case, this. It's a bleak and desolate area up there with lots of places people could be lost and not found for ages or not at all.

As a purely unconnected fact - one of the guys convicted of the very famous Angus Sibbet murder case at South Hetton in 1967 apparently lives (or lived) in a flat in Stanhope Castle.
 
  • #123
I don't have much to add here, but I live in the north east so this case is close to home. And I'm a runner.
Today it is very windy, with 40mph gusts. It will not be pleasant up there searching for her.
With the little info we have, I sadly think this is a self harm case. I really hope I'm wrong, but whatever happened, I don't think it's going to be a good outcome.
 
  • #124
Have they definitely confirmed that she left her phone behind? The articles I've seen mention that they've "investigated" her devices but that could mean a lot of things.

Very strange case, this. It's a bleak and desolate area up there with lots of places people could be lost and not found for ages or not at all.

As a purely unconnected fact - one of the guys convicted of the very famous Angus Sibbet murder case at South Hetton in 1967 apparently lives (or lived) in a flat in Stanhope Castle.

This makes it sound like they have all her devices to me

Investigators have been unable to dredge up a trace of Jenny, with even digital intelligence officers who searched through her phone, smartwatch and running apps struggling to find a lead
 
  • #125
This makes it sound like they have all her devices to me

Investigators have been unable to dredge up a trace of Jenny, with even digital intelligence officers who searched through her phone, smartwatch and running apps struggling to find a lead
I agree. I believe they have them.

There’s a potential 4th:
car left there by someone else.
I do not think there would have been time for someone to drop off a car
 
  • #126
Yes potentially but there would only be a one hour window between when she left home (3pm) and when the car was spotted there by dashcam footage (4pm) if this article is correct Mystery disappearance of Jenny Hall as search enters day four
That’s not a very big window for things to happen IMO. Unless timings are incorrect.
Tow law to Barnard Castle then up to where her car is takes about 45 minute drive time according to mapping "directions"

The dashcam lady just missed her but maybe this rules out an extended run along the road. Seems like a crappy place to park unless she wanted to do a loop around the faint two track below Islington hill that is seen heading eastward from the road, south of her parking spot.

Theres vodaphone 4g where she parked
 
  • #127
I think the reason we've not heard from friends or family could be that the police have firmly discouraged it given the Nicola Bulley circus. And also that people themselves have learned from that. I know I'd be reticent to put my head above the parapet after that mess.
 
  • #128
Just jumping in late in the conversation.
Do we know when she was reported missing/police beginning to look?

I'm just thinking it seems they have searched a lot and they have drones as well. If she was walking/running...should she have been found by now?

I imagine she could be in an obscure place, maybe hidden by bushes and such..
 
  • #129
Do we know exactly where Jenny's car was parked? I've been up and down the road several times on Google Earth Street View, but can't place it. I get the impression her car is parked facing northwards. There seem to be other, better, places to park - places where her car will be just that little bit further away from the road.

Do we know where Jenny's phone is? The statement that "digital intelligence officers have conducted extensive enquiries into Jenny’s mobile phone [and] smart watch" doesn't necessarily mean that the police have hold of these devices.

For reasons I can't really explain, I feel that Jenny has ventured to the west of the B6278 rather than to the east, which is where searches have been concentrated. Having said that, I am sure the police have their reasons for searching where they are.
See page 4 - I posted photos and exact map locations of the car and layby. Obviously the car isn't shown in the layby as it's a google maps shot but it's the correct layby.


Someone said there doesn't seem to be much on Facebook - I was also surprised. However Durham Police facebook page have two or three posts about the search and there are a lot of comments on a couple of those posts. Not much information though. I suspect the family have asked everyone to keep privacy.

There is quite a lot on Twitter and other social media now - Farmers publications have posted it on Twitter and it's on nationwide news pages as well.

I didn't sleep well last night - it's only about 3 miles away from us! Nothing like this has ever happened on the moors before. Sheep disappearing, yes, but people - no.

I also think the gone running is an assumption. We do get a lot of hikers in the area but they usually keep to trails or are in pairs - I don't know much about runners in the area. Haven't heard of it before.
 
  • #130
For fear of being stereotypical "they're tough up north" and I imagine, if JH is a farmer's daughter, born and bred in these moors, she wouldn't necessarily have any fear of the landscape or potential darkness.
Invino, I think this case is worrying, but going back to your analysis, I too am a late Farmer's Daughter... yes I'll walk fearlessly round a field in the pitch black.. BUT I caveat that with that'll be my own ground I'm walking on. From what I've seen those Moors look jolly desolate and remote and I would imagine someone could easily get lost.
 
  • #131
Tow law to Barnard Castle then up to where her car is takes about 45 minute drive time according to mapping "directions"

The dashcam lady just missed her but maybe this rules out an extended run along the road. Seems like a crappy place to park unless she wanted to do a loop around the faint two track below Islington hill that is seen heading eastward from the road, south of her parking spot.

Theres vodaphone 4g where she parked
Presumably you’d also need to allow for any stoppage time in Barnard Castle if there was a purpose to any visit there. In which case, the 1hr mark might be very relevant.
 
  • #132
Yes potentially but there would only be a one hour window between when she left home (3pm) and when the car was spotted there by dashcam footage (4pm) if this article is correct Mystery disappearance of Jenny Hall as search enters day four
That’s not a very big window for things to happen IMO. Unless timings are incorrect.
There was just a 10 min window in the time that Nicola fell into the river and nobody saw a thing. A lot can happen in an hour imo.
 
  • #133
Lots of farmers round here and most wouldn't even walk around their own fields in the dark!
 
  • #134
This cycling map helps show paths and trails, though not all will be marked. I wasn't able to mark where her car was found but it seems to be on the (orange) main road on the left just below where it says Middle End. She could feasibly have gone to the forest via the track on the other side of the road from where she parked.

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  • #135
Presumably you’d also need to allow for any stoppage time in Barnard Castle if there was a purpose to any visit there. In which case, the 1hr mark might be very relevant.
I think the Barnard Castle thing was a red herring. Perhaps the Police were told she might have gone there, but then they found the car. There wasn't enough time to get to Barnard Castle from Tow Law and then back up to the Moors. She left home just after 3pm and the dashcam of the car on the moors was at 4pm. It takes at least half an hour to get to Barnard Castle from Tow Law and at least the same time again to get to the moors from Barnard Castle.

I suspect she went straight to the layby and was long gone by the time of the dashcam footage.
 
  • #136
This cycling map helps show paths and trails, though not all will be marked. I wasn't able to mark where her car was found but it seems to be on the (orange) main road on the left just below where it says Middle End. She could feasibly have gone to the forest via the track on the other side of the road from where she parked.

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It's further north than that. Much further along the road off that map. No trails across the moor.
 
  • #137
See page 4 - I posted photos and exact map locations of the car and layby. Obviously the car isn't shown in the layby as it's a google maps shot but it's the correct layby.


Someone said there doesn't seem to be much on Facebook - I was also surprised. However Durham Police facebook page have two or three posts about the search and there are a lot of comments on a couple of those posts. Not much information though. I suspect the family have asked everyone to keep privacy.

There is quite a lot on Twitter and other social media now - Farmers publications have posted it on Twitter and it's on nationwide news pages as well.

I didn't sleep well last night - it's only about 3 miles away from us! Nothing like this has ever happened on the moors before. Sheep disappearing, yes, but people - no.

I also think the gone running is an assumption. We do get a lot of hikers in the area but they usually keep to trails or are in pairs - I don't know much about runners in the area. Haven't heard of it before.
Do we know why the police are searching the red circled area on the map - i think somewhere it was said she would run around that area?

As it seems such a distance from where the car was parked.
 
  • #138
I think because she could have run across the moor to the edge of Hamsterley Forest where there are cycling trails.

Just reposting the map. The red circle isn't very accurate sorry - it should go further across to the left - the satellite picture shows the forest in dark green and the layby with the red arrow. I think on this first map, the forest starts/ends where the light green is. So it's maybe about a mile or two from the road side across the moors to the edge of the forest.

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  • #139
Lots of farmers round here and most wouldn't even walk around their own fields in the dark!
Oh dear, not good when the Bull decides to go walkabout. That said, the longer this goes on the less hopeful I am of a good outcome. I don't run but I wouldn't have thought remote Moors would be in any way safe to go running on. I see a lot of women running in pairs in my area.
 
  • #140
Just jumping in late in the conversation.
Do we know when she was reported missing/police beginning to look?

I'm just thinking it seems they have searched a lot and they have drones as well. If she was walking/running...should she have been found by now?

I imagine she could be in an obscure place, maybe hidden by bushes and such..
I also thought that. It seems very strange she hasn't been found. With helicopters, drones, and search and rescue have apparently covered 100 miles of area! Although maybe that includes helicopter searches. A lot of walkers wear bright colours - like red coats. She was wearing dark colours by the sound of it, which wouldn't help at all. Maybe she didn't want to be found. Or fell down a gulley with bushes or mine opening.

There's an interview with one of the search and rescue team - I don't think I can link it as it was on Twitter - he said in some places on the moors there are peat bogs where you can end up, up to your waist in the bog.

I still keep wondering if they are searching in vain and some passing lorry or driver nabbed her as she left her car. JMO.
 

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