Jfk Love Child

  • #101
You are right, however creep is putting it mildly....wink...

btw, do you remember Andy Williams wife killing Spider, got 30 days and never spent one day in jail?
The Kennedy clan got her off....

I remember growing up Andy Williams was really tight with the Kennedy's. No doubt in my mind that's why she got off so easy! Claudine Longet pronounced (Lonjay) nice to have certain friends ;) Whatever happened to her?
 
  • #102
The last I heard she was living in Aspen and had married. I think it was her lawyer.
 
  • #103
Hi capps, I'm only repeating what my mom had told me. My mother passed
away fews years back, boy, do I miss her driving me nuts with her thoughts and ideas on the Kennedy's. This thread makes me feel like she's right here with us!

Me too. My mom's been gone only about 11/2 years now. I still think about her all the time. When she died, I took her copy of "Grace & Power", a thick biography of the Kennedys and read it.
 
  • #104
Hey Filly. I had never heard the theory that Ari was the father of JFK Jr before seeing your posts here. Even though Jr held little resemblance with JFK, I wasn't giving the theory much credit since I did not see much resemblance with Ari either. But that photo of Ari as a young man on the link you provided convinced me. I am now totally convinced that Ari was the father of JFK Jr. How sad for a family of such prominence to mess up its own family line in this way.

Compare Ari as a young man:
http://bp1.blogger.com/_YMZcHC7HLl4/RwEc0hlMM6I/AAAAAAAAALM/-VDOakHarl8/s1600-h/imagemagic.jpg

JFK Jr:
http://www.dalmatianlab.com/images/pic_sidebar_exhibition_fiber.jpg

IIRC, I don't think Jackie had met Ari yet when John-John was born...:waitasec:
 
  • #105
Hey Filly. I had never heard the theory that Ari was the father of JFK Jr before seeing your posts here. Even though Jr held little resemblance with JFK, I wasn't giving the theory much credit since I did not see much resemblance with Ari either. But that photo of Ari as a young man on the link you provided convinced me. I am now totally convinced that Ari was the father of JFK Jr. How sad for a family of such prominence to mess up its own family line in this way.

Compare Ari as a young man:
http://bp1.blogger.com/_YMZcHC7HLl4/RwEc0hlMM6I/AAAAAAAAALM/-VDOakHarl8/s1600-h/imagemagic.jpg

JFK Jr:
http://www.dalmatianlab.com/images/pic_sidebar_exhibition_fiber.jpg

Can you put the words 'spitting' and 'image' together! :eek:
 
  • #106
Can you put the words 'spitting' and 'image' together! :eek:


Yeppers the resemblance is remarkable. But doesn't everyone think also that John resembles his mother and her coloring? I do, so that makes it hard to tell. Comparing Caroline with the mix of john and jackie, then another child the two children are in contrast. But I have seen it happen in blood lines before.

I agree, remarkably almost could pass for twins.

With this same thought process, compare caroline and the new supposed love child son of the president, they look identical as brothers and sisters. Ari's daughter christine and john have the same noses to me, and coloring. Mystic and air about them.
 
  • #107
  • #108
This link is to a most awesome site. It's chock full of excllent photgraphs of Ari Onassis and his first wife and their children. Yes, there's quite a few of a young Ari here as well. It takes a lil bit to load, but if you scroll down to October 1, 2007 which isn't far down there's a photograph of Ari from 1932. I never realized just how much this man aged after his beloved son was killed. He died two years later. His sons mother Tina, his first wife died just a year after their son I believe. Dad. But yes, lots of photographs. Sorry I don't know how to pull them up side by side and such.http://www.aristotle-onassis.blogspot.com/

I spent hours there yesterday and started to post the link, but didn't because of the full close up nude shot of Jackie O. I felt it was very disrespectful to her and doubt her family knows it is online. If I am being a prude, please forgive me but I was very sad that she is being exploited in this way after her death. ( I am assuming that she did not pose for or give permission for the photography. I suspect that a papparazi's special camera was used off the coast of Ari's private island of Skorpios to take the photo).
 
  • #109
Yeppers the resemblance is remarkable. But doesn't everyone think also that John resembles his mother and her coloring? I do, so that makes it hard to tell. Comparing Caroline with the mix of john and jackie, then another child the two children are in contrast. But I have seen it happen in blood lines before.

I agree, remarkably almost could pass for twins.

With this same thought process, compare caroline and the new supposed love child son of the president, they look identical as brothers and sisters. Ari's daughter christine and john have the same noses to me, and coloring. Mystic and air about them.

I can see it in the posted pictures, especially the nose, but always thought of Ari as a very short, rather homely man, so different from John Jr! John's bone structure, to me, was a mix of Jackie's and JFK's. His thick hair and the shape of his head and jaw was like his father's. but he was darker, his eyes were his mother's. When he was little he looked a lot more like Caroline, lighter hair, etc. I think his smile was like his father's, nothing like Ari's. I think he got Jackie's coloring but I think he had Kennedy traits too. I had often heard it said that the Kennedys were known for producing good-looking men and more plain women, for some reason. I find it hard to believe John was Ari's. Also, someone told a story about John being "switched?" With whom? How? Why? I am curious about that theory, I don't get it!

Eve
 
  • #110
  • #111
...I find it hard to believe John was Ari's...
Eve
Hey Eve. :) I also think that JFK, Jr. has the Kennedy blood. He doesn't look like he has one iota of Greek in him, to me.
 
  • #112
The guy LOOKS like a Kennedy, but who knows? Only DNA will tell the tale.

I don't know how viable the DNA would be...and we'll probably never lay eyes on this archive in our lifetimes, but Jackie's blood stained dress is preserved.

Quite frankly, I think the dress is where it should be, and even tho' I was only nine years old at the time, I remember the pictures of Jackie wearing it and the horrible feeling I got. Like a lot of 'boomers'...I'm not sure I want to see it again.

Go here:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20031116/ai_n14566078

"...NOT long after that terrible day in Dallas -- no one knows exactly when -- a brown paper box arrived at the National Archives.
The return address was on O Street, the Georgetown home of Jacqueline Kennedy's mother. Packed inside was the pink Chanel suit first glimpsed Nov. 22, 1963, when the first lady joined JFK at a Fort Worth breakfast, and which, covered in his blood, she still wore the next morning to escort the slain president's casket into the White House.
There in the Archives, the suit remains. Stored in a custom- designed corrugated board box, it rests on a gray steel shelf in a secured area of a suburban warehouse. It has never been cleaned. The wool skirt and jacket lie flat, with a suggestion of human form created by acid-free tissue paper folded inside the sleeves..."
 
  • #113
I saw this article today:

Sharon Bush, the former wife of President George W. Bush's brother Neil Bush and a close friend of Jack Worthington, has come forward exclusively to The Vancouver Sun to speak on his behalf.

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=c7dd9a45-e0be-413d-9429-07c799f20216&k=70081

Then I found this article:

Chinese tycoon sues President Bush's former sister-in-law over 11-carat ring

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/200...ese_tycoon_sues_president_bushs_form-1-1.html
 
  • #114
The guy LOOKS like a Kennedy, but who knows? Only DNA will tell the tale.

I don't know how viable the DNA would be...and we'll probably never lay eyes on this archive in our lifetimes, but Jackie's blood stained dress is preserved.

Quite frankly, I think the dress is where it should be, and even tho' I was only nine years old at the time, I remember the pictures of Jackie wearing it and the horrible feeling I got. Like a lot of 'boomers'...I'm not sure I want to see it again.

Go here:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20031116/ai_n14566078

"...NOT long after that terrible day in Dallas -- no one knows exactly when -- a brown paper box arrived at the National Archives.
The return address was on O Street, the Georgetown home of Jacqueline Kennedy's mother. Packed inside was the pink Chanel suit first glimpsed Nov. 22, 1963, when the first lady joined JFK at a Fort Worth breakfast, and which, covered in his blood, she still wore the next morning to escort the slain president's casket into the White House.
There in the Archives, the suit remains. Stored in a custom- designed corrugated board box, it rests on a gray steel shelf in a secured area of a suburban warehouse. It has never been cleaned. The wool skirt and jacket lie flat, with a suggestion of human form created by acid-free tissue paper folded inside the sleeves..."

It was such a long time go,so I can't remember where I heard this. Apparently the Smithsonian Institute asked the Kennedy family if they could display the pink suit.The Kennedy family responded,they will eventually let it be displayed,but they don't know where (maybe the Smithsonian,JFK library etc),but not until 50 years after the assassination,out of respect for the children,Caroline and John Jr.

So we'll see....
 
  • #115
In the article he says that his father, meaning the man who brought him up, was very good to him. To me this says that his step or adoptive father's last name was Worthington. So, what woman in the 1960's married a Worthington, and her family was involved in politics? He said he was from Texas, that doesn't mean that is where they continued to live though.

As far as LBJ goes, Lady Bird was such a sweet dear person, she was way too good for that man. He was as raunchy as they get and had numerous affairs during their marriage. I can see him fixing up JFK and hoping to provide his downfall at the same time. I do think JFK,JR was JFK's son.
He looks like a combo of his mom and dad as does Caroline.

But his is interesting stuff. It will be something to look forward to reading in Vanity Fair if the DNA results are conclusive. I would think they will use Ted and Caroline's DNA , because of the y chromosome.
 
  • #116
In the article he says that his father, meaning the man who brought him up, was very good to him. To me this says that his step or adoptive father's last name was Worthington. So, what woman in the 1960's married a Worthington, and her family was involved in politics? He said he was from Texas, that doesn't mean that is where they continued to live though.

As far as LBJ goes, Lady Bird was such a sweet dear person, she was way too good for that man. He was as raunchy as they get and had numerous affairs during their marriage. I can see him fixing up JFK and hoping to provide his downfall at the same time. I do think JFK,JR was JFK's son.
He looks like a combo of his mom and dad as does Caroline.

But his is interesting stuff. It will be something to look forward to reading in Vanity Fair if the DNA results are conclusive. I would think they will use Ted and Caroline's DNA , because of the y chromosome.

I think LBJ was behind the entire affair, and used the woman against Kennedy. LBJ always hated JFK and was very paranoid of his power and charisma with the American public. LBJ never understood Kennedy's pull because he lacked all traces of it. I also think LBJ was the mastermind behind Kennedy's assassination on this kid's 2nd birthday. I hope the mother is looked at very closely, as well as any large sums of money she may have deposited in the years 1961-1964. In many ways, this ties up some loose ends that my friend's father, who is an old Texas former politician in both administrations, has alluded to in his book, based on his long years of watching and listening to LBJ. It solidifies aspects of his theory of LJB killing Kennedy. One of the " missing links" was who might have been the intermediary between the Texas gunmen ( even if it might be true that only Oswalt's shots hit Conolly and Kennedy, there were other gunmen in Dealey Plaza that day) and LBJ. Possible answer- Kennedy's former lover's family, who are said to have been an influential Houston family.

Regarding the name " Jack Worthington", I don't think it is his legal name.
Google this for a weird feeling: Oscar Wilde's character of "Jack Worthing" in "The Importance of Being Earnest" was a young man searching for his father... I think "Jack Worthington" has a different name, and his mother has never been a Worthington.
 
  • #117
SEEKING JANA..that is very interesting..do you have the title to those books this man wrote, I'd love to read them.

I just never bought the whole story of one lone gunman , Oswald, being the whole lock stock and barrel in killing JFK. And that Jack Ruby was so incensed he took Oswald out ..just something never rang true there..there had to be more people involved.

Interesting name Worthington..that name in my old stomping grounds was connected with old money and large estates where people went fox hunting and haad parties and soirees. The connection to the Jack Worthing in the Importance of Being Earnest fits nicely with this man. I think his resemblance to the Kennedy's is remarkable. Also if his mother was well connected politically she probably was also wealthy, most people in politics at that time were. And when she did marry I am sure she married a man of some wealth. This Jack seems to do quite well for himself too as an international investment banker. But if the ex Mrs Bush knew him and he told her this a few years ago, you would think many people in the Texas political circles would also be aware of this..they kept this story very well.
 
  • #118
I think LBJ was behind the entire affair, and used the woman against Kennedy. LBJ always hated JFK and was very paranoid of his power and charisma with the American public. LBJ never understood Kennedy's pull because he lacked all traces of it. I also think LBJ was the mastermind behind Kennedy's assassination on this kid's 2nd birthday. I hope the mother is looked at very closely, as well as any large sums of money she may have deposited in the years 1961-1964. In many ways, this ties up some loose ends that my friend's father, who is an old Texas former politician in both administrations, has alluded to in his book, based on his long years of watching and listening to LBJ. It solidifies aspects of his theory of LJB killing Kennedy. One of the " missing links" was who might have been the intermediary between the Texas gunmen ( even if it might be true that only Oswalt's shots hit Conolly and Kennedy, there were other gunmen in Dealey Plaza that day) and LBJ. Possible answer- Kennedy's former lover's family, who are said to have been an influential Houston family.

Regarding the name " Jack Worthington", I don't think it is his legal name.
Google this for a weird feeling: Oscar Wilde's character of "Jack Worthing" in "The Importance of Being Earnest" was a young man searching for his father... I think "Jack Worthington" has a different name, and his mother has never been a Worthington.

SJ, thank you for this. Very interesting. On an aside I have to pubically say I don't know nothing about nothing. Any information of speculation I have posted comes directly from my mother. I better not say "Don't shoot the messenger". Like Paddy's dear mom had shared with her so has my mom shared with me, and my mom as well said LBJ hated Kennedy, and indeed he may have been behind this whole affair thing.
 
  • #119
Several things...

If someone has Ancestry.com, you can go under the search and pull up Texas. Then you should be able to pull up marriages until around 1987, births until that time also. Divorces are also listed, only if they took place in Texas.

I will talk again to a good friend of mine, her husbands family was very good friends with the Johnsons. Her father in law and LBJ knew each other from the time they were 5 years old. She might be able to help. While she would never say anything negative, she "hinted" that LBJ was rude and crude, Lady Bird though was always a lady. How she put up with him Im not sure. I do believe thats why God allowed her to live so long.
 
  • #120
Any hints at possible last names we should be looking for and using in Ancestry.com?

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/5544012.html

The link above is to the Houston Chronicle story about Jack Worthington. It says reporters went to his mother's home and they were told to go away. But still no mention of his mother's name.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=311986

Another article from the national post this says his father Jack Worthington Sr was a school principal.
 

Guardians Monthly Goal

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
92
Guests online
1,659
Total visitors
1,751

Forum statistics

Threads
636,495
Messages
18,698,012
Members
243,709
Latest member
Staticmotion
Back
Top