Jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #27 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[Bravo]

I found someone who posted old footage on YouTube, so I'm watching there. She does look like such a meek little librarian, ha!

Good stuff. Quite the contrast from her blonde days.

 

[PASA]

Hey PASA !

Thanks for the jacket !!

YW. Looks good on you.

 

[Zeno49]

It will indeed be interesting if the defense can convince the judge NOT to provide the jury instructions detailing a “duty to flee” as pertaining to the JA self-defense claim. Apparently “duty to flee” is part of the self defense statute in Arizona and it is also standard doctrine in all criminal law treatises dealing with the affirmative defense of “self-defense”. The defense, it seems, wants to convince the jury that, above all, JA was and is suffering from “battered woman’s syndrome”. A truly battered woman may NOT have the duty to flee. This is because the syndrome pertains to victims who are paralyzed from fear of retribution and who have a history showing that prior unsuccessful attempts to flee from battery have been met with even more injury. The battered woman who “snaps” may not react, as do ordinary people, with an impulse to “flee” “exit quickly” “duck” hide” etc. The battered woman merely stands her ground during the assault knowing that her tormenter will relentlessly pursue her. She has come to understand that flight is simply not an option.

After all this painstaking elaboration of JA early life and initial phase of the TA relationship we will undoubtedly hear about TA escalation of manipulation and the onset of physical abuse. Rough sex, demeaning put downs, and “beatings” will become de rigueur. By the end of next week JA will have completed the check list of “what constitutes battered woman’s syndrome”. JA ‘s psychology expert will mop up and explain that all the seeming insignificant detail JA provided in direct testimony all can be understood as the making of a battered woman. THUS “retreat” during battery is no longer needed to exculpate.

I also think that JA will provide testimony that TA on June 4 2008 became inordinately enraged when JA dropped the Sony camera. Though he was naked TA blocked any escape. Even when initially injured from either knife or gun wounds TA pursued JA relentlessly and viciously. In providing this testimony JA will be putting on an act of a lifetime. She will emote, stutter, grieve, sob, cry, and recoil in horror as she is “forced” to relive that horrific assault. She will claim that TA had JA in his clutches as he was dying and to free herself without fear of deadly retribution she had to forcefully thrash out at his neck and or face.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

No way it's a "nice letter". Why would Nurmi want it in if it was?

 

[Bravo]

I was instructed to purchase those exact shoes in a martial arts store for a qi gong workshop I took so the ones I posted are some kind of martial arts shoes.

my point had more to do with her premeditation and generally psychoness.

Did she come with HER Ninjawear in order to dress the part for this murder?

I can so see her playing the Ninjawear part too when she did her tire slashing/doorbell ringing stunts. Hiding somewhere snickering.

 

[Jax49]

Possibly Chester, I wouldn't put it past them. But the instances I'm thinking of were where her eyes suddenly flashed in a realization like "oh *****, that wasn't the phrase i was supposed to supply" or on occasion she would briskly finish a rehearsed scripted answer, almost in mid-sentence (like that was where they agreed she would pause) and was already looking up for Nurmi's next scripted question, and <modsnip> wasn't ready yet and it was painfully obvious that she already knew the next line in the script and Nurmi wasn't on the ball- and in that flash moment, Jodi's eyes would get sort of wide in a thinly veiled momentary panic like "come on dude!! Hurry up, I'm sitting here in silence and you missed your queue!!" it's brief- but that quick nervous eye movement is definitely there. So was the slip-up.

I hope Juan gets all up under her skin. And, she explodes. Those little glimpses of anger at Nurmi give just a hint of what we may see. Here's hoping.

 

[Bravo]

No way it's a "nice letter". Why would Nurmi want it in if it was?

If it exists

 

[JusticeJunkie]

It will indeed be interesting if the defense can convince the judge NOT to provide the jury instructions detailing a “duty to flee” as pertaining to the JA self-defense claim. Apparently “duty to flee” is part of the self defense statute in Arizona and it is also standard doctrine in all criminal law treatises dealing with the affirmative defense of “self-defense”. The defense, it seems, wants to convince the jury that, above all, JA was and is suffering from “battered woman’s syndrome”. A truly battered woman may NOT have the duty to flee. This is because the syndrome pertains to victims who are paralyzed from fear of retribution and who have a history showing that prior unsuccessful attempts to flee from battery have been met with even more injury. The battered woman who “snaps” may not react, as do ordinary people, with an impulse to “flee” “exit quickly” “duck” hide” etc. The battered woman merely stands her ground during the assault knowing that her tormenter will relentlessly pursue her. She has come to understand that flight is simply not an option.



After all this painstaking elaboration of JA early life and initial phase of the TA relationship we will undoubtedly hear about TA escalation of manipulation and the onset of physical abuse. Rough sex, demeaning put downs, and “beatings” will become de rigueur. By the end of next week JA will have completed the check list of “what constitutes battered woman’s syndrome”. JA ‘s psychology expert will mop up and explain that all the seeming insignificant detail JA provided in direct testimony all can be understood as the making of a battered woman. THUS “retreat” during battery is no longer needed to exculpate.

I also think that JA will provide testimony that TA on June 4 2008 became inordinately enraged when JA dropped the Sony camera. Though he was naked TA blocked any escape. Even when initially injured from either knife or gun wounds TA pursued JA relentlessly and viciously. In providing this testimony JA will be putting on an act of a lifetime. She will emote, stutter, grieve, sob, cry, and recoil in horror as she is “forced” to relive that horrific assault. She will claim that TA had JA in his clutches as he was dying and to free herself without fear of deadly retribution she had to forcefully thrash out at his neck and or face.

I read about that and was floored. In what possible case can this not be relevant? Of course Nurmi wants it out, but I'm wondering in what world that would be allowed.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

It will indeed be interesting if the defense can convince the judge NOT to provide the jury instructions detailing a “duty to flee” as pertaining to the JA self-defense claim. Apparently “duty to flee” is part of the self defense statute in Arizona and it is also standard doctrine in all criminal law treatises dealing with the affirmative defense of “self-defense”. The defense, it seems, wants to convince the jury that, above all, JA was and is suffering from “battered woman’s syndrome”. A truly battered woman may NOT have the duty to flee. This is because the syndrome pertains to victims who are paralyzed from fear of retribution and who have a history showing that prior unsuccessful attempts to flee from battery have been met with even more injury. The battered woman who “snaps” may not react, as do ordinary people, with an impulse to “flee” “exit quickly” “duck” hide” etc. The battered woman merely stands her ground during the assault knowing that her tormenter will relentlessly pursue her. She has come to understand that flight is simply not an option.

After all this painstaking elaboration of JA early life and initial phase of the TA relationship we will undoubtedly hear about TA escalation of manipulation and the onset of physical abuse. Rough sex, demeaning put downs, and “beatings” will become de rigueur. By the end of next week JA will have completed the check list of “what constitutes battered woman’s syndrome”. JA ‘s psychology expert will mop up and explain that all the seeming insignificant detail JA provided in direct testimony all can be understood as the making of a battered woman. THUS “retreat” during battery is no longer needed to exculpate.

I also think that JA will provide testimony that TA on June 4 2008 became inordinately enraged when JA dropped the Sony camera. Though he was naked TA blocked any escape. Even when initially injured from either knife or gun wounds TA pursued JA relentlessly and viciously. In providing this testimony JA will be putting on an act of a lifetime. She will emote, stutter, grieve, sob, cry, and recoil in horror as she is “forced” to relive that horrific assault. She will claim that TA had JA in his clutches as he was dying and to free herself without fear of deadly retribution she had to forcefully thrash out at his neck and or face.

But, but, but....she did flee. All the way to California. And then she "fled" back on the night of the murder.

 

[moonbird]

Pink Panther - the video starts where the prosecution witness (ugh, i just had her name!) .. anyway, she is going through the contents of the washing machine.. hope it works!

http://youtu.be/_mG-HoiBA1k?t=3h7m

ETA: Heather Connor!

 

[human]

You're most likely correct on that. I do have a visual problem with my right eye which makes some straight lines look squiggly. It probably made my impression of the lettering a bit more exaggerated. Learned that when I closed my right eye! LOL!

No doctor, but you may want to go get an eye test. Tell the doc what is happening

 

[chakti]

There is no way TA ever gave JA oral sex. After she gave him oral, he refused to kiss her, so no way. Another lie.

You just might be right. The anal thing bugs me too. I'm gonna say most people think that is very gross. And he didn't want pictures in the shower but he texts her pictures of his erection ?

 

[PASA]

I've been struck with something regarding the "accidental photo" with JA's foot in it. (anyone have it handy?)

I took a workshop last year where we had to get special martial arts shoes and they look just like what it appears she's wearing in that photo. One might call them "Ninja shoes".

Here is a pic of them. Thoughts?

My thoughts were she was either wearing dark socks or some type of soft sole shoe.
Good find on those shoes, it is a possibility IMHO.

 

[callyn]

Not sure which pic you refer to. The one I saw with TA on the shower floor and one leg of Jodi's where she has jeans on and her foot is clearly barefoot with (I believe) painted toenails. And a definite curve to her toes.

So are you saying there are two accidental foot shots?

I have not seen the photo you describe. Do you have a link to it please?

 

[Jaykayelle]

I have Mick Jagger singing route 66 in my head. They went to Missouri also didn't they?
Songwriters: FREEMAN, RUSS
(Troup)

Well if you ever plan to motor west
Just take my way that's the highway that's the best
Get your kicks on Route 66
Well it winds from Chicago to L.A.
More than 2000 miles all the way
Get your kicks on Route 66
Well goes from St. Louie down to Missouri
Oklahoma city looks oh so pretty
You'll see Amarillo and Gallup, New Mexico
Flagstaff, Arizona don't forget Winona
Kingman, Barstow, San Bernadino
Would you get hip to this kindly tip
And go take that California trip
Get your kicks on Route 66

They went to Kansas City for a PPL event, I believe, so yes. It give me the shivers knowing that her DNA was somewhere in my state at one time. :sick:

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Can I just say............... I think you guys are all..........

Jacket design - PASA
Word Wizard - moonbird

 

[KMouse]

Juan will take care of any false impressions any of us may have of Travis. He is passionate in his defending him and I think Travis would be pleased this man is defending his honor and reputation.

I should have clarified that none of her allegations will be valid or believable

 

[moonbird]

Can I just say............... I think you guys are all..........

Jacket design - PASA
Word Wizard - moonbird

awesome!

:blowkiss: :loveyou:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I agree 100%. Mr. Martinez does need to take into account (and I'm sure he has) that the older jurors may have fallen for her innocent little girl testimony; may feel angered that such offensive and sexually implicit pictures and experiences have been forced upon her; may not believe that such a frail and delicate young lady could physically inflict such injuries; that she must have been driven by something horrific to possess her to kill; may not be able to 'read' the shower photos, particularly the tricky one of her dragging; may not be able to comprehend how a camera could seemingly take photos on its own; and may not be able to follow the trail of circumstantial evidence of premeditation. I had no trouble with it, and I am over seventy, but I have no doubt most of my peers would. The 'answer yes or no only' technique could cause a train wreck IMO.

Im a 66 year old female and I dont expect him to pussyfoot around when cross examining any murder defendant. Arias being a female defendant shouldnt even enter in to it. He is not cross examining Mother Teresa and the jury knows it.

imo

 

[somethinghere]

Re: stun belts

The following is an interesting tv news report about a stun belt "malfunction" [:giggle:]:

Murder defendant shocked in court when stun belt accidentally goes off
MCSO says it was likely an equipment malfunction
http://www.9news.com/video/15091249...in-court-when-stun-belt-accidentally-goes-off

Glad I'm not on the other end of that new technology! Btw IMO the reason she crosses her hands over her midsection when she stands for the jury to go out is because she's covering the stun belt, the outline of which can be seen through her blouse around her waist when her arms aren't up covering it. As soon as the jury left I saw her put her arms back down and you could clearly see the bulk of the belt then. She doesn't want them to see this, IMO.

From what I understand, the one on her leg is the tracking device, and the one around her waist is the stun belt. (Correct me if I'm wrong)