Jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #27 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[DEPUTYDAWG]

We won't have accountability at all.

We'll have a fable spun to fit the evidence but everything will be all Travis' fault. I am sure he is going to made out to be a monster on June 4, 2008.

And/or a great ability to block out all memory of what transpired. :banghead:

 

[moonbird]

We havent got there yet... I know its crazy... Hope I'm not posting and giving someone an idea!!! Eeeeeek!

there would have to be medical records, i would think..

 

[Laceybug]

My DIL passed away in Nov. 2011 from leukemia. She had just recently graduated from Texas Tech law school and was working as a prosecutor for Tx. Dept of Public Safety in Lubbock. We always "talked trials" together and I miss her so much! She would be eating up Juan right now if she was still with us! I have to believe she is cheering him on from heaven!

So sorry for your loss. The Lubbock area is where I am! (Just outside of Lubbock)

 

[TartLemon]

What if she had a miscarriage? I know it's far fetched... there is so much rage in the murder.. I just wonder if there was something more.

I think we would have heard about it. Jodi would have told Travis' friends after the murder when she was still trying to insinuate into their lives.

 

[Nosey Parker]

And/or a great ability to block out all memory of what transpired. :banghead:

Yep - visions of mother's wooden spoon and a PTSD experience. :banghead:

 

[LambChop]

Thank you for posting this, news junkie. I also think the shirts are a match. I am thinking he gave her/she asked for one of his PPL 'team shirts' and then later, made the 'panties' herself.

I totally do not believe the Valentine's story.

Maybe Jodi just took it when she left after killing him. She had the time to pack it in her bag. The picture was not taken until right before her arrest. Why would she do that??? Shows how sick she really was. And where are the underoos. Oh, I forgot that story came out after she exhausted all her other stories. That would be why the underwear was missing from the photo. Swiss cheese defense, IMO. jmo

 

[katiecoolady]

I've been struck with something regarding the "accidental photo" with JA's foot in it. (anyone have it handy?)

I took a workshop last year where we had to get special martial arts shoes and they look just like what it appears she's wearing in that photo. One might call them "Ninja shoes".

Here is a pic of them. Thoughts?

 

[Laceybug]

I been looking at photos from google maps ,,its wierd to see the landmarks she babbles about

There are pictures of them in Amarillo which is 100 miles north of where I am.. It creeps me out knowing she was actually that close to where I live! Gave me the creeps when I saw the pictures. It must have been on their trip to Oklahoma on I-40.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

She's quick with her lies but he's quicker with his cross style. In fact I might make up a new dance and call it Juan's Crossstyle and practice it during his cross so I can double duty and get a workout at the same time. Wearing my Juanette jacket for a good sweat. Don't worry I won't do it in court. :great:

Love it! My dance would have lots of spinning around because Jodi seems to like that :Banane45:

 

[Karmady]

One thing that I'm certain we won't see during cross-exam is yarn spinning and/or weaving with intricate detail. JM will not allow Jodi to ramble on relentlessly: He will want her answers to be short, concise, and more than likely of the "yes" or "no" variety. :moo:

I think it will depend on how much latitude the judge gives her. What I mean is, if Martinez starts asking "so have you stopped beating your wife -- yes or no? type questions and Jodi responds with I can't answer with a simple yes or no, will the judge allow her to expound or not. I usually don't follow criminal trials so I don't know if that's come up in other cases or what the judge typically would do in that situation. Especially in a capital case where the defendant herself is being crossed.

Eta: I looked into it a little bit and found this. Just one trial lawyer's opinion, but I happen to agree with him. I didn't like it when Martinez did it with prior witnesses and I think it would be an especially bad idea to do it with Jodi.

Techniques That Don’t Work

“Just Answer Yes or No”

Television, movies, and, unfortunately, some trial skill programs in law school have encouraged trial lawyers to fall back on the command “just answer my question yes or no” as a method of controlling the runaway witness. This is not a valid controlling technique. First, most judges will not permit the lawyer to do that. Most judges will inform the witness that they may explain their answer, at length if necessary.

Second, and more importantly, this signals the jury that the cross-examiner is not playing fair. The lack of choice given the witness suggests to the jury that the lawyer is trying to “trick” the witness. Non-lawyers resent this heavy-handed attempt to strait jacket the witness. To them it appears that the lawyer is attempting to “put words in the witness’s mouth.” A lawyer resorting to this method lowers both credibility and control.

Credibility is the paramount feature of the successful trial lawyer. When the trial lawyer loses his or her credibility, the case is lost. Credibility is severely damaged when you utter the words “just answer my question yes or no.”

There are no two schools of thought on this issue:
Don’t do it.

http://www.paynemitchell.com/objectfiles/PMLG.Web.Data.Publication/6/Cross Examination.pdf

 

[Pink Panther]

The last few minutes of the trial they other day is perplexing. I seem to think it was Nurmi as well. Was he suprised that Jodi brought up a *nice* letter he had no knowledge of?

I just watched it again a couple of times and I am quite sure it's Nurmi that asks to approach the bench. He keeps his head down after she answers and doesn't look at her, looks at the judge and asks to approach. Not sure if it's shenanigans on their part or if she made a genuine mistake not in keeping with their plans...

You can scroll to the end to see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFS2MjoEtB4

 

[Stolat]

I just watched it again a couple of times and I am quite sure it's Nurmi that asks to approach the bench. He keeps his head down after she answers and doesn't look at her, looks at the judge and asks to approach. Not sure if it's shenanigans on their part or if she made a genuine mistake not in keeping with their plans...

Good catch. Now I'm interested. ....

 

[katiecoolady]

I just watched it again a couple of times and I am quite sure it's Nurmi that asks to approach the bench. He keeps his head down after she answers and doesn't look at her, looks at the judge and asks to approach. Not sure if it's shenanigans on their part or if she made a genuine mistake not in keeping with their plans...

Verrrrry interesting. That sure did happen abruptly didn't it?

 

[katiecoolady]

Love it! My dance would have lots of spinning around because Jodi seems to like that :Banane45:

Spinning is that girl's middle name.

 

[Camdenres]

After watching all of Jodi's interrogations, so much closer in time to the murder, I don't think Juan will scare Jodi at all, and I doubt he expects to do that. He won't let her ramble- that's a given, and maybe that will throw her ever so slightly off her game, but not much, since she'll be expecting his style.

I bet he prepared years ago for how he would cross her if he had the chance, and that if he didn't already know how (and I bet he already knew), he consulted with pysch experts as to how to go toe to toe with a pathological liar on the stand.

IMO, he won't be able to get her to eat her words on anything- she can lie faster than she can think. What he will be able to do is reinforce for the jury that she is a liar, and to throw fact after fact after fact in her face.

As of now, I also think he will not revisit very much of the past 3 days of testimony. He's too smart to get lost in the weeds of refuting each of the mountain of this defendant's fabrications. Seizing on her pattern of snooping into her boyfriends' correspondence and confronting the involved girls would do.

One exception- her very bizarre tale about the drunk lady Jodi found terribly amusing until the lady pressed her cleavage against Travis. Sent into a tailspin of hiding in a bathroom stall for 1/2 hour weeping? Wow.

BBM

Another thing that struck me in that story was she pulled out her phone to video it...

 

[Pink Panther]

I posted the link to the you tube (of the last bit of testimony) a couple of posts up. You can scroll right through to the end and see. What do you guys think?

 

[Stolat]

I've been struck with something regarding the "accidental photo" with JA's foot in it. (anyone have it handy?)

I took a workshop last year where we had to get special martial arts shoes and they look just like what it appears she's wearing in that photo. One might call them "Ninja shoes".

Here is a pic of them. Thoughts?

Not sure which pic you refer to. The one I saw with TA on the shower floor and one leg of Jodi's where she has jeans on and her foot is clearly barefoot with (I believe) painted toenails. And a definite curve to her toes.

So are you saying there are two accidental foot shots?

 

[Zeno49]

NURMI: OK. We want to now talk about that particular point in time w h e r e you have already mentioned that this group that you mentioned in your testimony yesterday suggesting that the pecuniary gain exceeded the income levels that you in a previous point in time --- that you apparently did find as particularly wholesome. Do you remember that?

ARIAS: Yes.

NURMI: OK. And to help us who have not spent time gaining any type of insight into the business structure of the corporate entity that you had testified to yesterday and which had become a preponderant source of influence in your decision making process could you elaborate?

ARIAS: Well. . . to the best of my recollection this money augmenting entity seemed to my mind entirely adequate for the purposes that at that point in time were needful – if that is an actual word? . Upon closer scrutiny conducted by myself that entailed a complete understanding of gross incomes belonging to the upper echelon of management I began to realize that I finally could see myself gaining membership. I also gained the understanding that this – legal prepaid plan- could not be characterized as illegitimate or what one might call a “get rich scheme”.

 

[katiecoolady]

I just watched it again a couple of times and I am quite sure it's Nurmi that asks to approach the bench. He keeps his head down after she answers and doesn't look at her, looks at the judge and asks to approach. Not sure if it's shenanigans on their part or if she made a genuine mistake not in keeping with their plans...

You can scroll to the end to see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFS2MjoEtB4

Wow, you're right.

"There was a nice letter" then his eyebrows go up "Judge may we approach?". and that was that.

Although he did ask her if there was anything else in that package. Maybe that's not the answer he was expecting.

 

[Pink Panther]

Verrrrry interesting. That sure did happen abruptly didn't it?

I thought it was VERY bizarre. Two full days of her droning on and on; even if they had decided (or weren't allowed) to end with the phone call, you would think they would have wanted to leave the jurors with a clearer and more pronounced impression before recessing for the week-end.