Jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #28 *may contain graphic and adult content*

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  • #521
I did too Brits. I was mortified and all I could think of if I did everything I could to appease him he wouldnt pull the trigger. I begged and begged him not to kill me and leave our children without a mother. One time he did pull the trigger when he had it up against my temple but I didnt know he had unloaded the gun. He played terrible mind games. I thought I was going to die and kept thinking about my children and how they needed me.

Travis had no way to escape anyway. She had him trapped. I do think he tried to flee but she overcame him and drug him back attacking him the entire time.:(

Its nice to think that people will kick and scream and try to fight back and do all the right things but when reality strikes it is a much different matter.

Most freeze including children when they have been taught to scream and fight back or run away.

IMO

How horrible! Something similar went though my mind when I was attacked in my home with a knife by a family member a few years ago. I was stabbed once, fell to the floor, where the attack continued. Every situation is different. In my case, there was no chance to say anything; The moment I knew I had been attacked, the adrenaline kicked in, and I found myself going into some kind of triage mode - My only focus was, what did I need to do to survive? There was no thought about it, no hesitation, because the only choice was to fight back or die. I'm not even sure exactly what I did to fight back. I must have kicked hard enough to get out from under him. After that, my focus automatically shifted to getting control of the knife. I somehow managed to pin him down, stomach first, to the floor, and I grabbed for the knife. At that point I said something to him about needing to let go of it, that I wouldn't hurt him, but this had to stop, that I was hurt already and needed medical attention. He screamed about how sorry he was, then he got free from me and fled. He still had the knife, so I got up as quickly as I could, slammed the door to the room I was in and locked it before calling 911. All of this happened without a thought or hesitation. I never thought I had it in me to react that way. So I agree, none of us knows how we will react; we will just do what we think we must to survive. Sometimes that means to freeze, sometimes not.

I am also sure Travis did try to flee and/or fight back. But she had two weapons, which put him at a serious disadvantage. I can only imagine what those last horrible moments must have been like for him. I hope that will be first and foremost in the minds of the jury as the listen to the remainder of the testimony and as they begin to deliberate.
 
  • #522
I have never been a victim of a gun crime but I do own guns. A very dear friend of ours from Canada just asked us recently, " what do you if someone broke into your house? Do you call the police?" Hubbies response was "No, we just reload." :floorlaugh:

LOL!!! I have a sign in front that says "my German Shepherd can make it to the fence in 2.5 seconds. How about you?"
 
  • #523
but do you think if someone broke in in the middle of the night and you were sound asleep you could wake up and be alert enough to grab your gun? this is what makes me think it's dangerous to keep guns. i couldn't be sure i would be alert enough to use a gun if awoken in the middle of the night.

Depends on what type of sleeper you are. If you sleep soundly, you are dead anyway. I am a light sleeper. It would be me or them.

Guns are only dangerous if criminals own them....like Jodi stealing one! And yes, if you have children, keep the guns unloaded! But NO ONE should take away our constitutional rights.
 
  • #524
I have never been a victim of a gun crime but I do own guns. A very dear friend of ours from Canada just asked us recently, " what do you if someone broke into your house? Do you call the police?" Hubbies response was "No, we just reload." :floorlaugh:

CAUTION: We don't call 911.

In all seriousness, guns aren't JUST for self protection but for sport. I love hitting the range as much as I love going to a batting cage. Competition with myself. One of these days I will get the guts to compete in a pistol competition (idpa). I can't fathom living somewhere without them. I am not a hunter, either.

I encourage everyone to take lessons and try it.
 
  • #525
Depends on what type of sleeper you are. If you sleep soundly, you are dead anyway. I am a light sleeper. It would be me or them.

Guns are only dangerous if criminals own them....like Jodi stealing one! And yes, if you have children, keep the guns unloaded! But NO ONE should take away our constitutional rights.


OT but Indiana had a great turnout at the Capitol a couple days ago. Someone made a really moving video. Open carry....sweet.
 
  • #526
but do you think if someone broke in in the middle of the night and you were sound asleep you could wake up and be alert enough to grab your gun? this is what makes me think it's dangerous to keep guns. i couldn't be sure i would be alert enough to use a gun if awoken in the middle of the night.

When you train and practice at a range it becomes second nature to reach for your gun. jmo But then I am an ex Marine.
 
  • #527
No offense to anyone. I have lived in Canada and the US.(American born and raised) I felt safer in Canada. I would literally LOL when my Canadian friends would tell me that such and such area is a "bad pocket". I love my country but it is just different in Canada. I lived in Etobicoke a burb of Toronto.

I know Etobicoke very well. I have to agree. No slam to the U.S. as i have many Family living in the U.S. and travel it extensively. Luv the U.S. I always keep my doors locked and always have. Keep out those pesky ones who see you in the backyard and come in the front to steal your wallet/purse. I have to say tho as of late and these cases are here on WS's our crimes are increasing and heinous. IMO
 
  • #528
Depends on what type of sleeper you are. If you sleep soundly, you are dead anyway. I am a light sleeper. It would be me or them.

Guns are only dangerous if criminals own them....like Jodi stealing one! And yes, if you have children, keep the guns unloaded! But NO ONE should take away our constitutional rights.

We don't have that constitutional right in Canada and are quite safe from gun crime.
 
  • #529
I can't keep up with you all, so I thought here was as good a place as any, to place my musical homage to Juan Martinez and hopefully the new theme song for the Juanettes. I only wish it came with musical accompaniment, so you could get the entire affect! With my apologies to Marvin Hamlisch, may I present, inspired by the song "One" from the musical "A Chorus Line":

"Juan"
Juan singular sensation
Every little step he takes.
Juan’s thrilling objection!
Every move that he makes.
Juan’s smile and suddenly nobody else will do;
You know you'll never be lonely with you know who.
One moment in his presence
And you can forget the rest.
For the guy is second best
To none,
Son.
Ooooh! Sigh! Give him your attention.
Do...I...really have to mention?
He's the Juan?



Rumor has it....................... an anonymous Juan-ette snuck into the jail last night and inundated the prisoner with your song all night long.......and then took a picture of the power of music!

Juan-aDEAL_zps74aa21ba.jpg
 
  • #530
I am interested in her "mistakes" if you will.

Saving every last stupid receipt including one for fries and a water.???

Then we have no receipts for AZ which to me is blatantly obvious trying to appear as though she was never in that state. Hahahah du#% arse.

Borrowing gas cans.......cheepo

Doing the humpy with Ryan .etc etc
 
  • #531
How horrible! Something similar went though my mind when I was attacked in my home with a knife by a family member a few years ago. I was stabbed once, fell to the floor, where the attack continued. Every situation is different. In my case, there was no chance to say anything; The moment I knew I had been attacked, the adrenaline kicked in, and I found myself going into some kind of triage mode - My only focus was, what did I need to do to survive? There was no thought about it, no hesitation, because the only choice was to fight back or die. I'm not even sure exactly what I did to fight back. I must have kicked hard enough to get out from under him. After that, my focus automatically shifted to getting control of the knife. I somehow managed to pin him down, stomach first, to the floor, and I grabbed for the knife. At that point I said something to him about needing to let go of it, that I wouldn't hurt him, but this had to stop, that I was hurt already and needed medical attention. He screamed about how sorry he was, then he got free from me and fled. He still had the knife, so I got up as quickly as I could, slammed the door to the room I was in and locked it before calling 911. All of this happened without a thought or hesitation. I never thought I had it in me to react that way. So I agree, none of us knows how we will react; we will just do what we think we must to survive. Sometimes that means to freeze, sometimes not.

I am also sure Travis did try to flee and/or fight back. But she had two weapons, which put him at a serious disadvantage. I can only imagine what those last horrible moments must have been like for him. I hope that will be first and foremost in the minds of the jury as the listen to the remainder of the testimony and as they begin to deliberate.

Good job. Fight or flight. If you practice and get that muscle memory then you will fight, and some are just naturally fighters. I am both. And I too, have been at gun point by my ex. I fought him, wrestled with him and his rifle which he did not legally own and i won. No time for 911 until after. I then learned how to shoot!
 
  • #532
Who do you think you are, a Pinellas County juror? No vacations during trial. No ifs, ands or buts!

Alrighty then :great: Truth be told if it's at a crucial point in Trial it will bug me the first day or so :waitasec: As i have my feet in the sand,lounging by the water with a pretty drink in hand. Then i will come home to 2 thousand pages lol
 
  • #533
Are all trials televised (webcast) in Arizona? How do they decide which ones are shown? Also do you think this trial would be any different if it was not broadcast?

No not at all. I think the "broadcasters" approach the court for permission.
 
  • #534
I'm really surprised at how many folks on here have guns or have been victims of gun crime. I live in Canada and don't know anyone who owns a gun, or has been held at gun point or shot at EVER.
I'm kinda scared to go visit the US now. Scary stuff.

It is quite sad that so many feel the need to own guns for protection in today's world. I don't own any, but a lot of people I know do. My sons grandparents own a lot of guns and he has already had his first lessons on gun safety with them. He is 7. They live in a remote desert area so they always told me that if someone broke in it would take a while for anyone to get there. They have a huge safe in their living room with all sorts of guns (they do cowboy action shooting competitions) and have a few throughout the house for protection. Nick, my son, and I went through gun safety with them because I worried about Nick coming across one. He taught him with a BB gun and me with a 22. It made me nervous at first to expose Nick to guns at all, but you hear of so many accidents with them... It gives me peace of mind when we visit them that he's being taught to respect guns and know they're not toys.
 
  • #535
Rumor has it....................... an anonymous Juan-ette snuck into the jail last night and inundated the prisoner with your song all night long.......and then took a picture of the power of music!

Juan-aDEAL_zps74aa21ba.jpg

:laughcry:
 
  • #536
Rumor has it....................... an anonymous Juan-ette snuck into the jail last night and inundated the prisoner with your song all night long.......and then took a picture of the power of music!

Juan-aDEAL_zps74aa21ba.jpg

:floorlaugh:

You are the best!
 
  • #537
It's been established that he was stabbed first then shot, is that correct? So she had him pose in a vulnerable position for pics sitting down, but it has baffled me why she wouldn't shoot him first to try to incapacitate him quickly. I just can't figure out how she was able to overpower him. Do we know where the first stab wound was? I have had the unique experience of having a gun pointed at me. I was walking at night(genius) and a guy tried to pull me under a bridge. Not for a second did I think of doing what he wanted me to do. I fought like a hellcat, broke loose and ran. My back was clenched just waiting to get shot. I made it to the road and a guy picked me up and took me to police. I'm fine, years ago and all that. I guess everyone reacts differently. I believe he thought jodi was capable of murder. Did she have a gun on him and say okay I'm going to stab you now so just sit still. He still would have had time to lunge at her. I'm sorry if this has been answered but it is hard to read every page!
If she didn't take those pictures do you think she would be convicted? The men jurors would be thinking no way could this tiny 3 feet tall (in her chair down on the floor) girl overpower Travis. It would all be circumstantial without the pics.

IMO about Nurmi he detests jodi. He rarely makes eye contact, I've never seen him sit next to her at the defense table and he just mumbles and seems even ashamed. If jodi says all the child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 stuff happened is he forced to present it to the judge to get it admitted into evidence?

Jodi left her hand print in blood on the wall and her DNA when she bled from cuts on her hand. She would of been found and we'd be in the same place. It would still be that it wasn't Jodi's fault that Travis is dead. It's his, and she "had" to kill him.
 
  • #538
We don't have that constitutional right in Canada and are quite safe from gun crime.

Happy for you. But where we live, we live. What if someone came after you with a huge knife? Would you not shoot them then? I am proud of the US Constitution.
 
  • #539
*IF* she had help - it would have been from the guy with the odd hands in the p pics she is saying are Travis (NOT), IMHO.
By the way, that is a big *IF*

Hi ANJ,
Sorry for the confusion. I in no way believe she had help. I was responding to another poster who believes she did have help, and having a little fun with his quote.
Next time I will be clearer on my thoughts.
 
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