Jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #36 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[Steely Dan]

So basically the jury discussions will boil to one thing, right?

If Jodi Arias killed Travis in self-defense then why the almost 30 stab wounds? And how did she have the knife and gun with her so conveniently? That is all they need to ask themselves. That's it.

I hope that for the seemingly never-ending torture we're being subjected to by the defense that the jury will have a verdict within a few hours.

BBM

IIRC, they never found the knife and gun. So it's speculation that she's the one who had them.

So, I'm rewatching some testimony, JA's testimony just after the phone call tape was played and here is the testimony:

Begins with talking about TA grabbing JA's rear end in public when TA perceived that other men may be showing an interest in her....

Nurmi: And the t-shirt he gave you, that was for the times when he wasn't around, is that what your belief was? (Juan objects in the middle, judge overrules)
JA:No, it was a joke (my note...now it is a joke, previously abusive) he wanted me to wear it in public in Huntington Beach, he wanted me to wear it into the lobby and there were other associates there but I refused, it was embarrassing so I just wore it kind of as pajamas.

BBM

So, she had enough backbone to refuse to follow TA's command to wear this t-shirt in public but didn't have enough backbone to refuse all of the 'rape' type incidents she describes and in any other area of their relationship. A good cross question with this statement would be "Did Travis beat you for not wearing the t-shirt in Huntington Beach?" and "Did Travis yell at you for not wearing the t-shirt in Huntington Beach?" "Did Travis threaten to kill you because you betrayed his command when you didn't wear the t-shirt in Huntington Beach?" If the answer to any of those question is "yes" then ask "Why did you not testify to this on direct when you've consistently testified to every other act of abuse by Travis?"

Or...something like that...of course I don't know what kinds of questions are objectionable but I'm quite confident that the Juan would be able to word those types of questions properly.

Her lies are really getting under my skin and her inconsistencies are piling up. This may be my perception but it almost seems as if Juan has stopped taking notes, I wonder if he's working around the clock with the transcripts after court recesses for the evening.

I also wonder if he checks this amazing website for things he may not have caught on to or didn't think of in the same way...just to get a different perspective.

Things that make you go hmmmmmm.....

Good morning everyone!

BBM

Her answers are objectionable, but I don't mean in the legal sense.

Good Morning rose22.

I would imagine at first the jury will also be looking into if she truly was an "abused, battered woman" or whether she was a willing particpant in their sexcapades. And asking WHY, if she had no other ties to him besides sex, ie: she was not living with him, was not his domestic partner, was not dependent on him financially, did not have any children with him, and WHY if she lived miles and miles and miles away from him did she travel such distances to be with him???

And they should come to the conclusion that she was a willing participant and was a woman scorned and she went to his house, armed, after planning (pre-meditating) to kill him.

Ok, I have no experience with DV, thank God, so I may be wrong about this. As I understand it in typical DV cases, the person doing the DV uses fear and violence to control the victim. If the victim tries to get away then the abuse becomes stronger.

To my knowledge TA never went to her after she moved and she only went to hm. The women who've talked about their DV experiences here have never gone back once they've made a clean break to another city. Also, the abuser follows them and not the other way around. I know nothing is ever the same way all the time, but it seems to me that if it was DV that he would have been chasing her to California. JMO

Good morning all.

Coming out of a 3-year lurkdom to offer a possible new theory for everyone to chew on. Is it possible that some/all of the salacious emails FROM Travis TO Jody were in fact sent by Jody to herself? I’m not very technologically astute, but I’m pretty sure this could be done. She has said that she and Travis exchanged passwords, so wouldn’t it be possible for her to have a second computer/location to send these from under the ruse that they’re coming from Travis? Much of the sentence structure, grammar, etc., sounds very much like Jodi’s writing to me. She definitely seemed to have a plan in place when she drove to Mesa either to convince him not to go to Cancun or, failing that, kill him so that no other woman could ever have him. I know her original story was that she wasn’t even there when Travis was killed (Plan A), which morphed into the Ninja attack (Plan B), and this could have been her Plan C, to smear the victim.

I assume this avenue has been thoroughly investigated forensically, but ya never know. And perhaps it’s already been discussed at length here on Websleuths, but this scenario has been gnawing at me for the past couple of days.

:welcome:

I seem to recall something about JA using library computers some times. I may be wrong.

Welcome to Websleuths, Coyote, and good luck on finally catching that road runner. :giggle:

Good morning dear friend! I was up all night coughing,(getting over the flu). The rest of the night, I spent dreaming of chasing Dan with Hellmans! :floorlaugh: Many naps in my future today!



OMG!!
SEARCY: OK. Well, when this all first, when -- well, here is basically this. I said help or hurt. Here is the hurt part. When the night Travis died, I got a call from Jodi at 3:30 a.m. in the morning, crying hysterically that Travis was dead. When this happened, I asked her what happened, how she was, where she was.

Top bolding by me.

 

[Bravo]

Since I missed the first couple of weeks of the trial, I have to continually ask annoying questions, I'm sorry, but if someone has the time to answer...

I was wondering about the tire slashing incident(s). Was this brought up during the Prosecutor's direct, and how did the Defense cross that, if they did. And has Jodi herself said anything or been asked anything about that? Thanks!

Tire slashing has not been brought up. There were no witnesses to it.

 

[Laceybug]

I know that some folks don't read way back in the threads, and I don't blame them as fast as they move! But GS would LOVE for all of us to believe that he means the early morning hours of June 5, 2008. What he really means is she called him when Travis was FOUND, in the early morning hours of June 11. He is obfuscating the truth in a way that is calculated to get him some attention. I am positive that the prosecution is aware of when this phone call took place, that is why they ignored his phone call to them.

Wheew! Thanks for this. You are probably right. Please pardon my omg moment.

 

[perfectvirgo]

Supposed to be, as was Nurmi's snide remark yesterday, "You don't have to say sorry to HIM!" It will backfire, like everything else, IMO. Mr. Martinez cannot have said more than 20 words through 6 (7? I've lost track) days of direct!

Yes, Juan is prosecuting on behalf of the people - which includes the family and friends of TA. So I say, respectfully, that she DOES have to say sorry.

 

[especiallyheather]

Today is my eldest daughters 16th birthday... :great:
AND she is going on her first REAL date tonight... :notgood:

 

[zoey]

But now, since JA admitted the obvious -- i.e., that she killed TA -- Gus Searcy's testimony, much to his chagrin, has no value.

I now invoke my 5th Amendment privilege not to incriminate Gus Searcy. :floorlaugh:

and I'm thinking he has gone over that 15 minutes.....lease:

 

[zoey]

BBM

I get what you're saying, but, IMO, none of that has anything to do with whether or not Jodi used reasonable force to "protect" herself.

she does keep bringing up his body size---that he was so much bigger-- so I'm thinking they will play into that theme IYKWIM

 

[nursebeeme]

anyone else kinda skeeved out that Arias could be testilying about the murder on Valentines day???????

:liar:

 

[zoey]

I just saw a commercial that good Ole Jose will be on Dr Phil tomorrow morning. Ugh...Why? What's he selling now.? Wonder what untruths he will say tomorrow to try to boost and justify what happened.

New news--same bs different channel....not gonna watch...can't stand him at all----

 

[Turnadot]

When Nurmi's direct is finished, I'm going to pop open a bottle of champagne, since it will be new years anyway. Two birds one stone.

 

[Nosey Parker]

and I'm thinking he has gone over that 15 minutes.....lease:

I had to laugh when Nurmi asked that Searcy be free to speak with the media. Lo and behold, his face is on Dr. Drew at the first airing. Idiot! :floorlaugh:

 

[Ricki]

Supposed to be, as was Nurmi's snide remark yesterday, "You don't have to say sorry to HIM!) It will backfire, like everything else, IMO. Mr. Martinez cannot have said more than 20 words through 6 (7? I've lost track) days of direct!

Well, between Nurmis telling Jodi that twice, if I am recalling correctly, and the snickering of the two women, I believe that they are trying to give the jury the impression that JM is an @zz. The fact remains the jury is made of adults and I would think they view the antics of Nurmi and team as adolescent, immature and highly unprofessional.

 

[zoey]

And hair color at the rental place... brown with blonde highlights... Highlights!

and a lot of people would consider that to be dirty BLONDE--not at ja said "dirty brunette" (never heard that one before)---

 

[Nosey Parker]

anyone else kinda skeeved out that arias could be testilying about the murder on valentines day???????

:liar:

2014?

 

[Ricki]

New news--same bs different channel....not gonna watch...can't stand him at all----

Aww,,tell us how you really feel. LOL
I have not watched anything Baez has done since the trial.

 

[Hope4More]

Adding.. Shaking off Casey Anthony PSTD and looking ahead, I trust and believe in Juan's ability to shred the defendant during his cross and rebuttal, and to crucify her in his closing.

I believe that he'll convince the jury that whatever sympathy they might have had to this point about the defendant is understandable but is utterly misplaced... the result of a despicable marathon of self-serving lies and distortions spun on the stand, intended equally to save her own skin and to smear Travis Alexander; that she co-authored whatever slights or hurt feelings came her way but was solely responsible for the premeditated brutality she used to murder Travis.

 

[TartLemon]

Jodi gave Travis $699 in April. His trip was scheduled for June. $699 seems like an amount for the trip. It would have been planned and paid a few months prior to departure. $699 is an odd amount.

 

[Gypseagirl]

If I'm a juror, I'm struck by JA's obvious glee in egging on TA by always giving him what she believes will keep him on her string, especially in the one, single recorded phone call to which we were treated.

Giggling, she told Travis that she liked being debased and feeling "so dirty." So he debased her and called her names.

Looks to me like she got what she asked for in the relationship, until she realized it wouldn't last.

Then she took what would never be hers so it would never be anyone else's, either.

 

[spyhouston]

Today is my eldest daughters 16th birthday... :great:
AND she is going on her first REAL date tonight... :notgood:

Gonna be a long evening, Mom. But you'll get through it!

 

[DenverClipper]

One of the talking heads mentioned this and I thought it would be a great strategy for cross.

JM: Why did you stab TA the 1st time?
JA: ______
JM: Why did you stab TA the 2nd time?
JA: ______
JM: Why did you stab TA the 3rd time?
JA: ______
JM: Why did you stab TA the 4th time?
JM: Why did you stab TA the 5th time?

on & on until she had to explain every single stab wound she inflicted on him- the throat slitting, the gunshot.. I think it would be very effective!

Juan will also need to ask JA after each question: How do you think Travis felt after each stab...