Jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #37 *may contain graphic and adult content*

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Really? That is interesting. So, does the jail separate the defendant from the rest of the population during testimony? It certainly makes sense.

By "maximum security", does this mean she is in solitary confinement, or is she in general population with a higher level of security?

Is she allowed any outside visitors, or only visits with her attorneys and therapists? How about television and/or newspapers with the current events? I'm sure she looks for herself, in the media.

It is going to be a long five days for JA! :great:

I don't think they can/would keep JA from meeting with her attorneys. Probably give them as much time as they want especially considering this is a DP case.

One of the head jailers was interviewed on several shows. I don't remember exactly what she said max security was for JA, but it's pretty well lockdown 24/7 with very little time out of the cell and little or no interactions with other inmates. :jail:
 
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Thanks for posting that Softail :) I watched it when it was broadcast but it's nice to get to go back and re-watch things she has said, especially after her loooooooooong time on the stand. Oh yeah, she is still going to be up there on Tuesday. :banghead:

I agree with you, there is some truth to her lies. Whether it be a few words or an entire story flipped so whatever said or done by another was by her instead.

I can't wait until Juan gets his opportunity to untwist her tails and have her stuttering and tripping over herself. The family has had to hold on for so long, putting up with her painful stories. It's time it gets fixed.

I'm watching it now. JA states in the interview "I have nothing but time on my hands to think"...i.e., concoct lies for my defense. :furious:
 
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Good morning everyone! Just catching up to all the night owls! On the topic of shot in the shower......I looked again at the empty shower photo, the one taken after Travis was removed, so it's a crime scene photo. I will not post the photo but I hope you know which one I mean. Look at the area where his head was resting. There is a clean void where his head was. At first I thought I could see his profile along the left edge of that void, but I knew that could not be correct after seeing the phot of him in the shower deceased. But look carefully around the void. There are wipe marks in blood, as though someone wiped around his head without moving it, preserving the spot his head rested. I don't know what that means, but it had to have been wiped like that after she had rinsed the rest of him off. I guess it is possible that she did get in the shower to rinse him off, standing in that small clear corner, to the left and back of the stall. Even tho he was certainly dead, he may have been making some small movements or sound. I guess it is possible that she did then shoot him, and the small amount of blood or spatter she just wiped around his head. At first I thought he may have been able to move his head slightly back and forth but that would have erased the void his head rested in. OMG I am probably not even making sense.....need coffee!!!!!

Actually you are making sense to me. Something I hadn't thought of....:moo:
 
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I think it was stab to stomach+heart in shower,,ta makes it to sink,coughs/sprays blood, ,,back of head +back of neck,defence wounds,,,staggers down hall,,stabs back,,end of hall neck slice,,flipped over and drug to shower because she didnt think there would be that much blood,'after ta is back in the shower,,air escaped and thinking ta was still alive, she shoots him ,,,just my idea

Travis was shot on his right side. In the shower he is lying down on his right side. Not sure how she could have done that? jmo
 
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I know what you're saying. Because rules are routinely ignored, especially in the gray area of ethics, makes it no less wrong in my book.
I despise what he is doing. And I guess that's my right.
I have a hard time believing Nurmi believes what Jodi is saying weather she has told him the truth or not.
Technicalities of actually PROVING his deceit does not interest me. I am stating my opinion.

catching up from waaay back. i hear you and i agree. i understand everyone's entitled to a defense, but i don't think it should consist of lies cooked up by attorneys and the defendant. no way nurmi believes the story being told.
the worst part is the ONLY person who could refute what she's saying is dead----because of HER. so she gets to sit up there and slaughter him again with a bunch of lies, and hope the jury hates HIM so much that they won't give her the DP, even if they convict her. kinda like 'well, killing HIM---being the jerk he was---really isn't so bad.'

we're on the same page.
 
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FWIW I am a small woman 5'4" and less than 100 lbs. but I absolutely could subdue a much larger and heavier man if he was in a shower stall, with or without a gun. I am active and fit and my work often involves having to protect myself. JA was not small when the murder happened. She is 5'6" and has lost weight since she has been in jail. At any weight she had no trouble overcoming a man in a shower stall. MOO.
 
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Another thought, did anyone notice the absolute hatred in JA's eyes when she was questioned by JM (this last week on IS)? Her eyes tell it all. MOO
 
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Is there video, or a written report or something somewhere where JA finally tells the tale of how she killed TA? Like an interrogation tape? I very much want to watch it or read it. When did her admission finally take place?
 
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I know what you're saying. Because rules are routinely ignored, especially in the gray area of ethics, makes it no less wrong in my book.
I despise what he is doing. And I guess that's my right.
I have a hard time believing Nurmi believes what Jodi is saying weather she has told him the truth or not.
Technicalities of actually PROVING his deceit does not interest me. I am stating my opinion.

Mark Eiglarsh said it best one day when this argument was going back and forth about how can the Defense possibly believe some outlandish story of their client (he may have been referring to both sides)

He said it best when he said "Listen, this is Theater"

(to paraphrase you are putting on a show, these are all characters in a performance, this is not always about exactly what happened, when and where and by whom)

In a death penalty case, one is charged with keeping their client alive, it is not about whether the defense attorney believes his client to be innocent.
 
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Mark Eiglarsh said it best one day when this argument was going back and forth about how can the Defense possibly believe some outlandish story of their client (he may have been referring to both sides)

He said it best when he said "Listen, this is Theater"

(to paraphrase you are putting on a show, these are all characters in a performance, this is not always about exactly what happened, when and where and by whom)

In a death penalty case, one is charged with keeping their client alive, it is not about whether the defense attorney believes his client to be innocent.

I love Mark. He always makes so much sense.

Another jodi-ism....sex under water doesn't count. :floorlaugh:
 
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Ninjas. Home invasion ninjas.

Jumping off your post:

I just started following this case in January, just after the trial began.

Could someone please explain where and approx when the the term "ninjas" came into this case? Did JA ever call them "ninjas"? TIA

Note: I did see the initial interrogation tapes where JA stated that masked intruders were responsible for the death of TA.
 
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I love Mark. He always makes so much sense.

Another jodi-ism....sex under water doesn't count. :floorlaugh:

I'd marry him lol. Ha.. He really strikes me as a wonderful man, full of character. He's not afraid to get on television and tell it like it is IF he has a feeling a particular "accused" person is just not "right". He does not get on TV with a canned response to every murder suspect defending them.

He would be a great person to have on your side to defend you and get you through the process fairly.
 
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Another thought, did anyone notice the absolute hatred in JA's eyes when she was questioned by JM (this last week on IS)? Her eyes tell it all. MOO

Yes, it was so evident she barely kept her cool. And all he did was say "did you write this?"

lol.. i mean he didn't get into much and she was heating up like a crock pot.
 
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catching up from waaay back. i hear you and i agree. i understand everyone's entitled to a defense, but i don't think it should consist of lies cooked up by attorneys and the defendant. no way nurmi believes the story being told.
the worst part is the ONLY person who could refute what she's saying is dead----because of HER. so she gets to sit up there and slaughter him again with a bunch of lies, and hope the jury hates HIM so much that they won't give her the DP, even if they convict her. kinda like 'well, killing HIM---being the jerk he was---really isn't so bad.'

we're on the same page.

Thats a standard practice....muddy the waters until there is no longer anything clear to see. doesn't mean i like it.
It's do whatever it takes to keep her from the needle like you said. Make people think he actually was abusive in some way (and plenty of people are thinking that, in spite of no evidence so far that points that way) and try to make the jury think that the crime committed wasn't as bad as how he treated her. :banghead:
It's so sad that some seem to think (not pointing fingers at anyone here...other things I have seen elsewhere though) that because he was male it automatically means he was a jerk in some way since she killed him so brutally. No one is perfect and everyone is flawed and has jerky moments. His humor may not have been appropriate all the time and he definitely messed with the wrong woman....shoot if Thats that worst he ever did in his life then dang....sounds like he was a fairly decent guy. He wasn't like my exes or hell ...BritKate's ex!

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Another thought, did anyone notice the absolute hatred in JA's eyes when she was questioned by JM (this last week on IS)? Her eyes tell it all. MOO

Yeah, and that little baby victim voice disappeared, too.
 
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Mark Eiglarsh said it best one day when this argument was going back and forth about how can the Defense possibly believe some outlandish story of their client (he may have been referring to both sides)

He said it best when he said "Listen, this is Theater"

(to paraphrase you are putting on a show, these are all characters in a performance, this is not always about exactly what happened, when and where and by whom)

In a death penalty case, one is charged with keeping their client alive, it is not about whether the defense attorney believes his client to be innocent.

BBM

I actually think the Nurmi and Jodi 'show' is walking Jodi right on to death row.

Imo, he has done nothing to make Jodi appear sympathetic. In fact she seems cold and distance with a flat affect.

No emotion when she is supposedly desribing physical attacks.

I have never seen a genuine abuse survivor not show any emotion when they are reliving what happened to them.

Jodi is coming across as a liar without any credibility and that is even before she is cross examined by Juan.

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I'd marry him lol. Ha.. He really strikes me as a wonderful man, full of character. He's not afraid to get on television and tell it like it is IF he has a feeling a particular "accused" person is just not "right". He does not get on TV with a canned response to every murder suspect defending them.

He would be a great person to have on your side to defend you and get you through the process fairly.

word for word....my thoughts too.
 
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If she were to do that couldn't the knives and 9mm gun found in her trunk when she tried to leave town before her arrest come into evidence? jmo

Good point..... Time will tell. I don't know if the PT can make it known to the jury.......Jodi like Casey Anthony never run out of a good lie to cover anything.
 
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