Jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #38 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[Vresia]

Originally Posted by Vresia
On another subject, does anyone know of a link to the police report from when Jodi was arrested ?

Here ya go. I actually posted it in a comment I wrote earlier today.

http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/floresinvestigationreport.pdf

Thank you Linda. The linked police report only goes up to 7/3/08. I am looking for the police report from mid July '08 when the Mesa police went to Yreka, surveilled Jodi for a day and then arrested her. I have read about those couple of days but haven't seen the actual police report. This was the time when the police found knives hidden in books that Jodi had packed in a rental car. They also found 9mm bullets. I read someplace that they did not find the gun that Jodi had recently purchased until Jodi's mother mentioned it several weeks after the arrest. At that time the police had to find the rental car and search it again. They found the gun.

I don't know if police reports are available to the public in CA. I hope that someone out there has gotten it & posted it someplace.

 

[panthera]

This gun was bought after the fact, sometime after she returned home. She wanted another gun for a reason. Maybe because her experience with the .25was dissapointing and she needed more firepower next time! Why she bought it is puzzling.

Perhaps this is where her plans for suicide were supposed to fit in? Obviously it wouldn't be for protection if so well-hidden inside the vehicle.

:waitasec:

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Now that I've read the autopsy, I'm persuaded that Jodi definitely knew "how" to thrust a knife quite savagely. One of the anterior chest thrusts disturbed the costochondral cartilage so severely that the ME cut out the specimen to save for further analysis. That she made so many shallow cuts was initially puzzling to me. For instance, the cluster of stab wounds on Travis' back were an average of only an inch deep. Now, it appears to me from this pattern of stabs that she didn't intend to stab deeply in the back. There is no mention of the knife becoming stuck in the posterior ribs, or damaging the posterior ribs. It appears to me from the AR that these cuts were made at that depth "on purpose"-- and not because she inadvertently kept hitting ribs. And they sure don't look or sound like "hesitation" wounds.

And so I begin to think more about this, I'm thinking that it's more than possible that she was taunting and torturing him while he was still conscious. Intentionally not stabbing too deeply, as opposed to wondering "why won't you die" and continuing to stab.

Jodi definitely knows where the vital organs are in a person. She also has a good idea how deep inside the body they are.

I wish the ME had talked about this more in his testimony-- the clusters of shallow wounds, versus the very savage, deep wounds. But perhaps that was felt to be too speculative, since the sheer number of wounds is so savage.

Isn't that what they were looking at - body parts and organs, when she "accidentally" went too far back and wound up in Travis' MySpace?

 

[Vresia]

Any reason why Arias and Burns take separate cars to the 'business meetings' on both occasions? Little odd.

In an article on the case or testimony, I remember hearing that single men and single women may avoid the appearance of impropriety by riding in separate vehicles. I figured this was why Arias & Burns did this.

 

[TexMex]

Arias claimed that her cell phone battery died out somewhere in Southern California. The phone was reactivated near the Utah and Nevada borders, conveniently leaving no trace of cell phone activity during her stay in Mesa, Arizona. She had enough foresight to anticipate the scepticism of law enforcement concerning the "missing time" (Flores grilled her on this) so she left a voice mail on Travis's phone (after death) telling him that she got "lost" and that her cell phone battery "died". She told the same story later to Flores, saying she got stranded somewhere in Nevada. That's strong evidence to support premeditation and shows how well thought out her plan was. She knew just hours after the murder that her cell phone activity could be used to substantiate an alibi but she had to explain the missing time. Highly unlikely that an abused woman who just survived a traumatic episode with her abuser, leaving him dead, would have the clarity of mind to add credibility to her cell phone alibi like Jodi did.

Her last cals from Southern California

Salinas, California

At 3:22 p.m., Arias goes shopping at a Wal-Mart and buys two facial cleansers and three unidentified items. The sale total was $43.90 and she paid cash.

Pasadena, California

At 8:16 p.m., Arias calls Alexander. The call lasted 2 minutes, 9 seconds.

At 8:31 p.m., Arias goes to a CVS pharmacy. It is not clear what she bought.

At 8:34 p.m., Arias calls Alexander again and the call lasts 49 seconds

Between 8:42 and 8:46 p.m., Arias makes two gas purchases at Arco. The first is for $34.61, and the second is a pre-paid purchase for $40.

She may have filed up her rental car and the gas tanks with fuel.

Ryan Burns testified Arias called him around 9 or 10 p.m. on June 3, 2008. She told him she was on her way to Utah. Burns expected her to arrive around 9 a.m. the next morning, Wednesday, June 4.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Does Arizona actually put people to death? Are they like TX (a lot!) or CA (almost never), or somewhere in between?

They put 6 people to death last year.

imo

 

[seguek9]

Isn't that what they were looking at - body parts and organs, when she "accidentally" went too far back and wound up in Travis' MySpace?

yes, it was The Body Worlds exhibit iirc...
Body Worlds - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Quester]

Any reason why Arias and Burns take separate cars to the 'business meetings' on both occasions? Little odd.

??So that JA would increase her chances of being stopped due to the flipped license plate??

??For reasons of propriety - two unmarried Mormons in same car might not be prudent??

??

 

[JusticeJunkie]

http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2013/02/11/jodi-arias-trial-tragic-roadtrip

Thank you. I've not seen that one before.
This one includes an 8:16 PM call from Arias to Travis - but she still couldn't have been in AZ by then.
I gotta go back and look at that site more.
Thanks again, chicoliving.

(P.S, I feel like I know you from all your help getting this computer dummy registered. Thanks.)

 

[SusieD]

How strange is it that in her written diary entry here (second to last page) she says that Travis' names for a girl include 'Hinckley' as well as Iris, Regan, or Megan? I mean Hinckley?? I don't know about you guys but the instant I hear that name I just think crazy unrequited love stalker .. funny that.

Lots of weird Freudian slips around Jodi Arias .. if you read between the lines of what she says and look at things metaphorically you can actually start to read her.

Gordon Hinckley was a very popular leader of the LDS church. It is very common in mormon families to use derivatives of the names of well-liked leaders. When David McKay was very popular, hence an awful lot of girls named Mckayla.

 

[bobloblaw]

I'm confident Juan, when talking about her obsession and stalking patterns, can bring reality to the forefront of those men...if they've ever had a gf in the past with similar tactics, or somehow imagining the horror of having one.

Yes, Jodie should be a future case study on scary girlfriends :seeya: <<<<----MOO

We all owe it to our sons to teach them about freaks like JA.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

I remember one time jokingly I put "lap dance" in the memo on a check ...

I am starting to realize I have had no fun in my life. lol

 

[panthera]

Her last cals from Southern California

Salinas, California

At 3:22 p.m., Arias goes shopping at a Wal-Mart and buys two facial cleansers and three unidentified items. The sale total was $43.90 and she paid cash.

Pasadena, California

At 8:16 p.m., Arias calls Alexander. The call lasted 2 minutes, 9 seconds.

At 8:31 p.m., Arias goes to a CVS pharmacy. It is not clear what she bought.

At 8:34 p.m., Arias calls Alexander again and the call lasts 49 seconds

Between 8:42 and 8:46 p.m., Arias makes two gas purchases at Arco. The first is for $34.61, and the second is a pre-paid purchase for $40.

She may have filed up her rental car and the gas tanks with fuel.

Ryan Burns testified Arias called him around 9 or 10 p.m. on June 3, 2008. She told him she was on her way to Utah. Burns expected her to arrive around 9 a.m. the next morning, Wednesday, June 4.

If she had intended to go to Utah directly from Pasadena CA , she could easily have made it in 12 hours with time to spare. However, her "detour" to Mesa also took her off the most direct route to Utah, added mileage and a lot of time.

It also leads me back to the question of whether she anticipated entering Travis' home and killing him immediately? Even if she had, she would not have made it to Ryan's within 12 hours from Pasadena.

MOO

 

[BritsKate]

Just jumping off your post Linda, not talking about your situation.
I'm amazed at how many women are attracted by bad boys, then end up in abusive situations, or left as a single mother.

Sad situation.

You'd be surprised by how many abusers don't appear as bad boys at all.
I believe part of what allows intimate partner violence to thrive is the notion that abusers, or victims, are one size fits all. While any abuser, man or woman, will display a rigid set of controlling behaviors they can, and often do, come from many walks of life.

And I for one, was overwhelmingly grateful to become a single mother, thrilled even, upon leaving my abuser. I'd take single parenthood over an abusive relationship any day. I never even asked him for a dime - just to leave us alone. Just FWIW.

Men who batter women come from all socioeconomic, racial, ethnic, and religious backgrounds. The abuser
may be young or old, blue collar or white collar, highly paid or unemployed. He may be a drinker or nondrinker. He may use drugs or not use at all. Batterers represent all different kinds of personalities, family
backgrounds, and professions. There is no typical batterer.

http://swc.osu.edu/posts/documents/...buse-from-mn-coalition-for-battered-women.pdf

 

[thefragile7393]

They put 6 people to death last year.

imo

*nod. Not like TX....but there's usually a at least a couple a year. Kind of off topic....I don't know how they determine whose number is up and whose isn't. We still have a few from the 70's....I thought they would have ran out of their appeals process long ago.

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[panthera]

They put 6 people to death last year.

imo

Did you happen to notice how long the inmates had been on DR?

 

[SusieD]

??So that JA would increase her chances of being stopped due to the flipped license plate??

??For reasons of propriety - two unmarried Mormons in same car might not be prudent??

??

She'd already been pulled over, somewhere in southern Utah IIRC.

As to two unmarried mormons in the same car....they're not the Taliban. That wouldn't even raise an eyebrow.

Maybe she realized how much the car smelled like blood and had to stop to toss the floor mats? I can see her not wanting Ryan in her car for the reason it might hold some clues, but why wouldn't she ride in his car? I don't even have a guess.

 

[Sustained]

One thing I wondered is since she knew she was a person of interest in the death of Travis and was packing to leave, perhaps it was for her suicide so she would not be imprisoned for the rest of her life at age 28. Run as long as she could then kill herself?

Maybe Flores should have let her run for couple of days ... might have saved the state of Arizona a boatload of money.

 

[TexMex]

If she had intended to go to Utah directly from Pasadena CA , she could easily have made it in 12 hours with time to spare. However, her "detour" to Mesa also took her off the most direct route to Utah, added mileage and a lot of time.

It also leads me back to the question of whether she anticipated entering Travis' home and killing him immediately? Even if she had, she would not have made it to Ryan's within 12 hours from Pasadena.

MOO

If true that she arrived in Mesa at 4am, slept, had sex and did some shots before the murder which was at 5:30pm and probably out of te house by 6 pm her detour was 14 hours. Then off to Utah!

 

[pinkie60]

Me too. Wonder if Nurmi will do a pre emptive strike on this and bring it up.

It's like Scott Peterson being caught with dyed hair and all kinds of "getaway" material in his car. And a map to Amber Frey's house.

I suspect they (Jodi Arias and her defense team) will somehow try to blame this gun purchase on Travis. Posthumously. smh

or she's going to say she bought it to commit suicide. when jodi was under surveillance, there appeared a brand new shiny rental car in front of her grandparents home. police armed with a search warrant, arrested jodie and searched the car. she had a box of books and amongst them were 2 knives. in her suitcase was a box of .9mm bullets, no gun. less than 1 month later, her mother was inquiring where the gun was that jodie had hidden in the rental car. the car was traced to san fransisco, and the .9mm gun was found. remember she claimed on the stand she wanted to kill herself after the final split and before moving back to yreka. she called her friend matt for a gun and he called her parents. i would think her mother would have mentioned this to the police, that she had threatened suicide if this actually is true, but maybe she thought releasing this info would hurt her case. who knows what's true? i think jodi loves herself too much to commit suicide.