jodi arias TAKES THE STAND #64 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[SusieD]

Speaking of glass I have a question! A glass was mentioned by juan yesterday! What was the significance?
Tia

The glass (I believe it was a plastic cup) was in the shower with Travis' body. It's visible in the picture taken after the body was removed.

My thoughts - Jodi brought it in there to make sure there was no DNA left on Travis's private parts. Full immersion. After hearing about bleach spots on the socks I wondered if she took a cup of bleach in there to wash him off, knowing that for sure would destroy her DNA.

 

[camcneishg]

Why would he knock his own camera out of her hand?

I still have problems with the glass shower door.

Don't see how / why he opened the glass door for her as it is obvious that he at some point at the end was aware she was there?

That is why I keep wondering of she had the gun pulled on him at that point and he had no choice but to get out of the shower?

Further observation:

Juan made a fairly big point of pointing out in the first "inadvertent" shot the position of the CLOSED shower door.

So at the point the camera dropped we know the door is closed. And we also know that Travis *knows* she is there.

So how does he let her open the door?????

after I made my post, I went back and looked at the pics and I make no sense...LOL....could it be that he wasn't going to knock the camera out of her hand, but grab the camera....or could it be that he had no clue it was his camera since he had no idea she was even there?
pic 5:29:12 he sees or hears something (no flash)
pic 5:29:20 he knows for sure it is her, pic taken with flash or diff setting
I think that this is when the stab to the heart happened
pic 5:30:30 he slumps down in the shower from stab wound, still flash is used
less than one minute later at 5:31:14 ceiling pic taken....thinking that by that time TA is up on his feet and after her or just trying to get away, stumbles to the sink etc......she points the gun at him making him get down on the floor...stabbing in the back begins as he is trying to crawl away down the hall, then the throat :banghead:

also, I am wondering if the shower door slams back shut when open....anyone have this kind of shower where the door would shut on it's own?

 

[Lissa]

Further observation:

Juan made a fairly big point of pointing out in the first "inadvertent" shot the position of the CLOSED shower door.

I remember him pointing out the shower door in the ceiling picture, but I thought the door was open. I don't remember him saying it was closed. Am I wrong? Anyone else?

 

[katiedid2]

March 1, 2013 - 12:34 pm
Now on InSession they showed a picture of a shark and the Jaws Theme music. They were on the phone with some big wig defense attorney in Chicago. He said that he was tweeting to Nurmi to stand up and yell objection. They he let JM creme Jodi. He said he would have had no voice today. And if he was her attorney he would be at the jail all weekend until court start on Monday, coaching her on every detail.

 

[atthelake]

she can be a rebuttal witness however

Nursie, can you recheck yourself on that one as I believe that only the defense can call her. So she cannot be a rebuttal witness for the prosecution iirc.

 

[SusieD]

Speaking of glass I have a question! A glass was mentioned by juan yesterday! What was the significance?
Tia

It was a plastic cup I believe and was found in the shower with Travis's body. It is visible in the shouwer picture taken after the body was removed.

My thoughts - she used that cup to wash Travis's private parts to remove all of her DNA. Full immersion.

 

[RadarLuv]

Good morning all.

Is it monday yet?

 

[atthelake]

Did anyone else catch the jealousy in her about the closet? She had to mention that it was larger than her cell. Like the jury is going to feel for her because now she lives in a cell smaller than the closet of Travis Alexander. It was pure jealousy and rage in her at that moment and she couldn't hide it. She wanted to be Travis, to 'Mirror-Match'. When he said 'no' months before and started to push her out is when her plan went into action. I believe she moved to Grandpa's house because she knew she could manipulate and steal from them easier than the parents. She knew weapons were at the house as well. This plan was formulating waaaay before May 28.

IMO

She makes me ill

Karma - its a bi**h Jodi, ain't it that your home is now smaller than his closet! :furious: :furious: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

 

[Zuri]

Wouldnt it be hard for her to drag a body of 180 lbs of dead weight all by herself?

No as I have done it. It is hard. I have had to lift people out of a car who were not breathing, and also pull people out of a bathroom who were in cardiac arrest to start CPR. Adrenaline kicks in

 

[nightwatch]

Or 'Murder for uneducated psychopaths'

For all the big words she uses (without even knowing their meaning half the time) and all the semantic games she played with JM she left a crime scene full of evidence. She changed her story three times so far. She can't even fake cry. She is incredibly stupid. She is so stupid that she believes her lame story is believable. Oh how I laughed when she had to demonstrate the linebacker position yesterday. She looked like the fool she is.

Add that to the list of qualities that make up this dumb monster. The cell she's living in now is too big for her in my opinion.

i agree with you. the look on her face when jm said show us:floorlaugh: i'm sure jm will prove that her demonstration is a lie. naa didn't happen that way (girl please). looking forward to rebuttal.:moo:

 

[Nosey Parker]

I didn't catch it. Does anyone have a clip of this?

I missed that too. Perhaps the OP was merely projecting a peak moment?

My peak moment was when Arias had her face buried in hand and hair, supposedly sobbing, and Juan said, so gently, "thank you for correcting me, ma'am.' :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: Satire at its best!

 

[Rosebutter]

March 1, 2013 - 12:34 pm
Now on InSession they showed a picture of a shark and the Jaws Theme music. They were on the phone with some big wig defense attorney in Chicago. He said that he was tweeting to Nurmi to stand up and yell objection. They he let JM creme Jodi. He said he would have had no voice today. And if he was her attorney he would be at the jail all weekend until court start on Monday, coaching her on every detail.

Maybe Nurmi was told by the judge that she gave him all the latitude he wanted in direct and that the prosecution had the right to ask their questions also. I wondered about this because after one of the sidebar visits Nurmi all of a sudden because quiet almost pouting.

 

[Sustained]

I just had an aha moment with one of the photographs.

http://s1321.beta.photobucket.com/u...a/Camera Photos/travis18_zps79bb516b.jpg.html

As I have been looking at this one, I assumed the streaks on his leg was wet body hair. Suddenly I realized that he hated body hair, so it couldn't be--his legs are hairless in his nude photos on the bed shortly before.

OMG - it is blood streaks. You can see his upper body is washed clean and there are no visible stab wounds on the chest even though the right side of his chest has stab wounds in the autopsy photos. I think the shower spray has washed blood off his upper body but not the lower body. You can see blood and water under his body near the drain.

Which means he bled standing up (at the sink?) before this picture was deliberately taken by the murderer standing over him. She would need a cup to rinse the blood off the rest of his body because she was bleeding too and couldn't take the chance that some of her DNA would be on his body.

Yesterday I felt lightheaded after looking at the wounds in poor Travis' back. One expert said that he would have had to be immobile for her to have been able to have stabbed him so many times in such a small area. I just can't wrap my head around that.

Also, I am plagued by the question of why in the photo of JA's leg/foot/Travis' head & shoulder -- why does she appear to be dragging him AWAY from the shower???

All of the above only JMO and I welcome any/all other takes on this. I may be changing from the knife first to the gun first camp (not that it matters- still a heinous butchering of a terrific guy by a psycho ***** from hell).

If indeed the hairless legs in the sex photos are genuine, it wouldn't be a stretch to believe that Arias brought an SD card with images from a previous sexual encounter, altered the time stamps with a tool like this :

http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/

and then loaded the SD card into Travis' camera. I'm not sure why she would do that though ? I also don't buy the fact that she didn't know how to use his camera with all of her photographic experience.

 

[lilyet]

I thought odd response to this -During afternoon testimony yesterday, Juan reminded Jodi that conveniently there were no witnesses with regard to her stay or visit to Arizona/Mesa, and she quickly disagreed. IIRC, or close anyway, she replied -- Yes, there would have been surveillance cameras, or footage-- or something like that. My point, she was so quick to indicate surveillance cameras. I am wondering if this could be because this is something she had given aforethought to, so more reason to color hair. Or, she was fishing to see if Juan might take the bait and agree. I am wondering if she is wondering if there is possibly surveillance footage the State may have, or maybe it was entered into evidence and she was reminding Juan.

 

[pinkie60]

where are we going to be able to watch the trial on monday, HLN or youtube? i'm really going to miss In Session, the front row seat to justice. I luv all the commentators, jean c, beth k, mike b, and more.

 

[pinkie60]

I thought odd response to this -During afternoon testimony yesterday, Juan reminded Jodi that conveniently there were no witnesses with regard to her stay or visit to Arizona/Mesa, and she quickly disagreed. IIRC, or close anyway, she replied -- Yes, there would have been surveillance cameras, or footage-- or something like that. My point, she was so quick to indicate surveillance cameras. I am wondering if this could be because this is something she had given aforethought to, so more reason to color hair. Or, she was fishing to see if Juan might take the bait and agree. I am wondering if she is wondering if there is possibly surveillance footage the State may have, or maybe it was entered into evidence and she was reminding Juan.

why would an innocent person who killed in self defense even consider surveillance cameras.

 

[katiedid2]

Sure!

Many thanks to you

 

[popsicle]

March 1, 2013 - 12:34 pm
Now on InSession they showed a picture of a shark and the Jaws Theme music. They were on the phone with some big wig defense attorney in Chicago. He said that he was tweeting to Nurmi to stand up and yell objection. They he let JM creme Jodi. He said he would have had no voice today. And if he was her attorney he would be at the jail all weekend until court start on Monday, coaching her on every detail.

I believe he said he was tweeting that Nurmi needed to object etc. Not that he was tweeting Nurmi.

 

[2door73chevy]

well i could say i may or may not have asked for the latter with previous partners but what goes on behind my bedroom door doesn't really effect if someone is going to marry me?

theres a lot more about jodi that would make a guy not want to marry her than that. those type for things aren't really so out there over here where i live.

Yes...What's that saying? "A in bed and a lady in the street"...Or something like that.

 

[Zuri]

IIRC, most of the blood seems to be in the hallway area proximal to the bedroom carpet. I think JM pointed out that the blood was nearer the walls than the center, possibly indicating dragging or cleaning. The palm print was on the wall which IMO, was used to support JA body. Are there crime scene photos of the hallway closest to the bathroom and if so, is there blood there as well? TIA