jodi arias TAKES THE STAND #64 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[Love Never Fails]

Before he had his psychotic break, my son that's schizophrenic was shot in a holdup in a pizza place where he was working. It was through the leg. The pain was excruciating and he screamed continuously, writhing on the ground until he was sedated. It was the same type of gun here and the entry wound was small but the exit wound was 2-1/2" in diameter.

I am sure Travis screamed for help and told JA, just as she recounted in her ninja story, that he couldn't feel his legs. He may still have been in the shower, we don't know. He may not even have realized she shot him--after all, he was asking her to go to the neighbors as he staggered to the sink. He would be in shock, which includes losing blood pressure, thus accounting for the lack of bleeding in the skull but the extensive bleeding lower down in the body where the pressure was better.

The blood from the bullet wound would have also blinded him in that eye. I honestly think this explains why he has all the defensive wounds. She freaked when he didn't die immediately and she was trying to shut him up for fear a roommate would come and find her in the act. You can be sure the dog was barking and the whole scene was pandemonium.

She drags him back to the shower for the throat slashing. Maybe.

Also, on the bathmat being used to move him around--the crime scene expert testified it had blood on both sides and had been moved from its original position.

This is a prefet description of events. Isn't it cruel and heinous? It isn't human to do that to someone and actually want to watch them die!

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

MEA CULPA! I listened again.. Over and over.. It is "Just take a minute.. "

I was wrong.. Right down the date and time, Because it won't happen again..:floorlaugh:

 

[Kakidoll]

Today was the last 6 hour day. Monday will be 9-11AM EST. I was sadly disappointed at the end of the show. Jean said something like we would like to take this opportunity to acknowledge all those on the team.. They ran everyone's names at the bottom and showed clips of cases intermixed with photos of the InSession cast and staff.

I have the clip of Nurmi saying "stick with it" recorded and also the Vinnie Demos - if anyone wants those.

Just in case anyone missed it today.. HLN said they will show FULL coverage of the trial starting Monday at 10:30 MT

Hoipe they are picking up where IS has left off with the trials... until someone starts a new channel (hint hint WS) lease:

 

[kscornfed]

I'm confused about something (don't hit me!) :truce:

I'm confused about how (and if) all the things JA did after the murder, and they are numerous, in her effort to avoid arrest/detection/leave evidence she was there... everything AFTER the actual crime - is part of premeditation. (?)

I absolutely believe she planned the whole thing in advance, so I'm not disputing that at ALL. And I understand that an innocent person who killed someone in self-defense isn't likely tp act as she has (if there's even been a single case of it - ever), but I'm not quite understanding how (or if) these post-murder actions are considered premeditation... and if not - what is it? Just plain ol' damning beyond belief? I can live with that...

I'm not even sure my question makes sense - but you guys never cease to amaze, so I'm going to hope someone knows what I'm asking...

do you happen to remember the robert durst case in galveston? crazy guy. he's killed several people. but that trial was about him killing his neighbor in a boarding house. he shot the guy, cut up his body and tossed bags into galveston bay.

his attorney, dick deguerin, convinced the jury it was self defense based on nothing besides durst's word. if i remember right, they never recovered his head, and durst said he shot him in the head. deguerin also convinced the jury that they should not consider ANYTHING he did after the actual killing as meaning he was guilty of murder. they bought it. they acquitted him of murder.

 

[Linda7NJ]

MEA CULPA! I listened again.. Over and over.. It is "Just take a minute.. "

I was wrong.. Right down the date and time, Because it won't happen again..:floorlaugh:

I say that at home all the time!


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[Love Never Fails]

Before he had his psychotic break, my son that's schizophrenic was shot in a holdup in a pizza place where he was working. It was through the leg. The pain was excruciating and he screamed continuously, writhing on the ground until he was sedated. It was the same type of gun here and the entry wound was small but the exit wound was 2-1/2" in diameter.

I am sure Travis screamed for help and told JA, just as she recounted in her ninja story, that he couldn't feel his legs. He may still have been in the shower, we don't know. He may not even have realized she shot him--after all, he was asking her to go to the neighbors as he staggered to the sink. He would be in shock, which includes losing blood pressure, thus accounting for the lack of bleeding in the skull but the extensive bleeding lower down in the body where the pressure was better.

The blood from the bullet wound would have also blinded him in that eye. I honestly think this explains why he has all the defensive wounds. She freaked when he didn't die immediately and she was trying to shut him up for fear a roommate would come and find her in the act. You can be sure the dog was barking and the whole scene was pandemonium.

She drags him back to the shower for the throat slashing. Maybe.

Also, on the bathmat being used to move him around--the crime scene expert testified it had blood on both sides and had been moved from its original position.

So very sorry about your son! Murder has been made to look so easy from movies. Violence is just that. There is always pain and bleeding involved. People have been so duped by Hollywood.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

It's so sad that Travis asked her to go for help. He would have thought after the initial wounding that she was going to stop .. he would have thought she had lost it and that's all that was going to happen. It's awful to imagine what he went through .. not just the physical pain, but the emotional pain as well.

 

[SheltieMom1]

You can hear it here, start at 1:14:20

Jodi Arias Trial - Day 25 - Part 1 - YouTube

I heard "are you ok, just take a minute."

 

[Love Never Fails]

do you happen to remember the robert durst case in galveston? crazy guy. he's killed several people. but that trial was about him killing his neighbor in a boarding house. he shot the guy, cut up his body and tossed bags into galveston bay.

his attorney, dick deguerin, convinced the jury it was self defense based on nothing besides durst's word. if i remember right, they never recovered his head, and durst said he shot him in the head. deguerin also convinced the jury that they should not consider ANYTHING he did after the actual killing as meaning he was guilty of murder. they bought it. they acquitted him of murder.

I remember it. I lived near there at the time. Defense attorneys who represent sleaze like this aren't fit to breathe our air space.

 

[seguek9]

I need new ears...I believe you guys. Obviously I heard wrong if everybody else hears the same thing. Pass the q-tips....I still can't hear it.
Maybe this would be a justifiable reason to splurge on some cool new headphones....

 

[Love Never Fails]

(1). I listened to the HLN clip of Nurmi and didn't hear "stick with it," (2) If he did say that, we don't know the context, he could have been saying, " stick with it, I know it's hard but you knew you would be confronted by the pictures at some point," or whatever, and (3) I think people are getting too cavalier about throwing around accusations of ethical violations by Nurmi. He is a public defender. He did not ask for this case but was assigned to it. Most public defenders are overloaded and underpaid but believe fiercely in the need for a defense to prevent individuals from being railroaded by the state.

It is one thing to defend someone who is innocent and being prosecuted by an over zealous prosecutor. To defend someone like Arias, Anthony, Peterson? No excuse!!!!!

 

[kscornfed]

I thought it would be:

Direct (Nurmi)
Cross (Martinez)
Re-Direct (Nurmi)
Re-Cross (Martinez)

That's what I'd always heard. But I think each state is different, and from what everyone is saying, there's no Re-Cross.

it has to be state by state because i've seen cases where the defense gets to do rebuttal too---they call it surrebuttal. and i know i've seen trials where they do direct, cross, re-cross, re-direct, etc.

maybe it's good we won't have that here. nurmi would never stop. :what:

 

[SunnyinMO]

Just in case anyone missed it today.. HLN said they will show FULL coverage of the trial starting Monday at 10:30 MT

Hoipe they are picking up where IS has left off with the trials... until someone starts a new channel (hint hint WS) lease:

thanks so much for posting this...I had not heard and thought I was going to have to watch it all on the computer...was not looking forward to sharing that little screen with hubby!! :floorlaugh:

 

[Schuby]

do you happen to remember the robert durst case in galveston? crazy guy. he's killed several people. but that trial was about him killing his neighbor in a boarding house. he shot the guy, cut up his body and tossed bags into galveston bay.

his attorney, dick deguerin, convinced the jury it was self defense based on nothing besides durst's word. if i remember right, they never recovered his head, and durst said he shot him in the head. deguerin also convinced the jury that they should not consider ANYTHING he did after the actual killing as meaning he was guilty of murder. they bought it. they acquitted him of murder.

I remember the case, I live in Harris County so I followed it closely. During the trial I was laughing at the defense, was like, "someone needs to tell that New York boy that he's in Texas, Texas juries don't play that crap." Needless to say, those were probably the most bitter words I've ever had to eat. (Thanks, Jodi)

 

[kscornfed]

I remember it. I lived near there at the time. Defense attorneys who represent sleaze like this aren't fit to breathe our air space.

if you live in texas and you kill somebody, his attorney is the one you want.

a friend of mine knows him and asked him one day when she ran into him if he could advise her about something related to her divorce. dick said 'no......but if you kill him, i'll get ya off.'

 

[Love Never Fails]

I think the fact that he wasn't taking her to Cancun is what made her really mad ... so they had sex for a while, she assumed that was enough to convince him to take her to Cancun, then he told her in no uncertain terms - perhaps in the shower - that it wasn't going to happen, and then she was so angry that she carried through with murdering him. Had he changed his mind about Cancun, he might still be alive.

No no. She planned this murder for days. Had he married her, she would have killed him eventually. She did not want Travis. She wanted his lifestyle!

 

[otto]

Facebook post nosey Parker asked about

Did Jodi say during cross examination that Matt is dead ... or did I misunderstand that?

 

[Nosey Parker]

(1). I listened to the HLN clip of Nurmi and didn't hear "stick with it," (2) If he did say that, we don't know the context, he could have been saying, " stick with it, I know it's hard but you knew you would be confronted by the pictures at some point," or whatever, and (3) I think people are getting too cavalier about throwing around accusations of ethical violations by Nurmi. He is a public defender. He did not ask for this case but was assigned to it. Most public defenders are overloaded and underpaid but believe fiercely in the need for a defense to prevent individuals from being railroaded by the state.

Well, he isn't a public defender, but he has a right to speak with her outside of the jury.

 

[momof7]

I am still trying to get over the fact she said she woke up somewhere in the dessert with blood on her hands. So, exactly how did she get in the white car in broad daylight with blook on her hands and not get any on the door?

She definitely took a shower and with Travis there and her, there is a possibility the door did not shut. So, water from the shower. The sprays from hitting them both. She didn't have blood on her hands and she didn't magically wake up in the dessert.

I think the gas cans, or should I say the 12 gallons of gas, she took with her are definitely premeditation.

Kelly

 

[Schuby]

It is one thing to defend someone who is innocent and being prosecuted by an over zealous prosecutor. To defend someone like Arias, Anthony, Peterson? No excuse!!!!!

Sorry, there is this little thing called The Constitution to which I happen to be partial.