jodi arias TAKES THE STAND #64 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[KathrynL]

I didn't hear him saying anything other than 'are you alright' and 'just take a minute'......I am not doubting what others says they heard...just saying what I heard.

I heard "are you alright" yesterday. I listened this evening a couple of times and heard "stick with it (or stick with that)". I checked simply because yesterday I thought he said "are you alright" and I thought "oh, please". lol Now I will have to listen yet again and find out which it is. Hopefully.

 

[mck16]

Judge Perry spent more time appeasing the jury than following the trial he was charged with. The jury was stooped, stooped, stoopid and I have to say ( due to unpopular belief on this forum) that the prosecution was arrogant to the point that they didn't take the time to describe the evidence they had in hand! (We knew, we had more evidence of her crime here on WS than they ever bothered to present.) Not just the computer forensics mind you, but her every move tracked by gps!

I have no faith in the justice system until this trial is over. We could have another completely stupid jury here and we won't know until it's over. Jeez...They were asking about fingerprints for the room mates and they already were supposed to have been told that JA admitted to have killed TA!

I'm holding my breath.

moo

I try not to think of that, but it is one of my concerns especially with all the minutia (sp) JA tries to throw in. And her attorney just lets her prattle on. I am afraid they are going to get lost in all this. jmo

 

[callyn]

She may not have even washed off at all. She just had to make sure she wasn't dripping blood or tracking blood with her feet. She clearly was standing on the carpet near the tile with bloody feet tracking it around in that one area. She could have stripped down right there - wiped herself off with the inside of her murder shirt or pants, put on clean clothes and carried Travis' bloody clothes downstairs to the laundry and taken her own bloody clothes with her, along with the gun and knife and imaginary rope.

ITA with this. I don't think she showered herself at all. Just Travis, and she used the plastic cup to rinse his body where the shower spray didn't reach. She did say when she 'came to' in the desert she had blood on her hands-which when I think about it probably means she didn't-but anyway, I think she just cleaned up herself like you said and got the heck out of there.

 

[Hally]

This struck me too yesterday during cross. He was saying if you shot him and now his back is to you, why then, why did you stab him in the back? He was not a threat to you anymore..

....law is you can't go at someone with more force than necessary so if she stopped the threat of death, she could have then turned and walked out. AND not killed him

Yes, I agree. It also proves that he was stabbed first because there is no way in hell he could've got up, stand in front of the sink, to spew his blood. : (

During that vulnerable time - she slaughtered him.

That photo alone is proof, of more then just premeditated murder. But killing after your life is NO longer in danger.

 

[LizardQueen74]

I still think it's *possible* that JA may have used the strap from her own camera (according to her, it was not only with her, it was in the bedroom at some point - used to take 'personal' videos).

It would have been the right length for her to use, and Travis may have wanted to keep his neat and new for his trip - so maybe she clipped hers on his camera briefly.

It is hard to explain some of the camera angles unless there is a strap involved - but I don't think we'll ever know for sure.

Other idea I just had - wonder how similar the cameras looked (his/hers). Unlikely but she could have put her strap on his new camera so he'd think it was her camera - why would he want 'those' photos to be the first on a pristine camera/memory card, even if deleted? No, that makes no sense if she used her camera for taking a video. I don't know... I'm just wond'ring aloud.

Surprised the ninjas didn't have a tripod for her blame them for the pics too.

 

[legalmania]

I DVR'd the Dateline show and am watching it now. Something that struck me was a clip from her LE interview where she says when the masked intruders struck she "went into the closet". That closet has some significance in her story. I think there is some truth there somewhere. When did she go "into the closet" in the true sequence of events? Maybe that's where she had her weapons stashed? She said the gun was in there. Maybe the knife was too.

The only problem with the closet story was the place she said she put the gun was 7' high. Now she says she is 5'5. How she got that gun down so quickly without a chair or stool or pulling something off one of the shelves is questionable. Also Travis was 5'9 why would he put a gun up so high that he would need to get a stool to retrieve the gun? If he had kids I would believe him putting it up that high. Also, there is no record of him owning a gun. He wasn't a convicted felon, so had no reason to hide the fact he owned a gun. I also think he would have gotten something like a 38 or 45 even a 357 not a 25 more like a girls gun. Or something an older person could handle something without a lot of kick. jmo

 

[getReal]

Back to our crude layout drawing. We can easily debunk her versions of how the attack happened.

In scenario #1 She is lifted up and body slammed...you see her here with her camera in the direction she'd be laying on hard tile after the body slam, and this is where she would remain for...maybe 4 days as her back would be out and she would have a concussion thereby making it impossible to get up. Travis would simply go to Cancun and wish her well.

In scenario #2 assuming by some miracle she got body slammed...and holy jesus, she rolled to her left as she said, got up (as he stands there and watches her roll and get up) and she takes off running past him as he stands there for some reason watches her go by and takes a step out, and poof, he is practically giving her a flat tire he is so close to her little running feet and bam.. he is behind her in the closet and she does what? Flies up and gets a gun, and he politely stands there while she gets the gun and then she runs by him, gets in the bathroom and then he comes at her. Ok, I can't type anymore, I'm laughing too hard.

New theory!!

As she runs, she squirts KY Jelly onto the hallway floor and onto the closet doorknob, buying her time as TA slips and slides down the hallway, and then has to fumble with the slippery doorknob before he can manage to open it to see that she is already back in the bathroom waiting to try her hand at target practice. The KY also proves to be great for lubing his back so that she can slide his body around the bathroom hallway, and it rinses off easily!

I also hope that the jury can visit the actual home and bathroom, where actors can re-enact each theory of the crime, with stopwatches timing everything. That bathroom is large, but how large is it with two people moving around at the same time?

My ensuite bathroom is similar, but when my GF and I are there together, there is not enough room for all of the activity that JA described in her version of the story. TA's bathroom sounds like it has to be twice the size of mine!

 

[Melly53]

Get with the program - he pirouetted out of the shower, leaving one foot in the shower when he body slammed her to the tile. :floorlaugh:

Yeah, physically impossible to pirouette one one foot while the other foot was still in the shower.

 

[otto]

Totally missed these pics. Thx for posting!

http://s1352.beta.photobucket.com/user/tabularasa6/media/Crime scene/aa30_zpsdf4957fe.jpg.html

Are those from Travis's house? If so, it's obvious why she chose him. She had never lived so well in her life - remember the boyfriend with the house that had cigarette soot dripping down the walls. She would have seen Travis as her ticket to a lavish lifestyle.

 

[SusieD]

Looking at the collage picture I am struck by the timing at the end.

The last face shot, the one with "the look" was taken with the shower door closed, that's obvious in higher resolution pics. It was taken at 5:29:20. His posture indicates he is sitting in the shower, he is totally against the wall.

The next one was taken with the door open, the shower threshold is clear. There is no blood. IMO this is when she is going in for the kill. It was taken at 5:30:30 a full minute and 10 seconds after the face shot.

What the heck went on in that minute? That's an eternity in this situation.

Then the ceiling shot is only 45 seconds later. All hell must have broken loose.

It's only one minute later that the dragging picture is taken. IMO she had already cut his throat. All that stabbing and dragging, the coughing at the sink, happened in a minute.

It was a longer time between the face and sitting shots. Again, what went on then?

It's scary.

 

[Only4Justice]

Just re-reading yesterday's testimony. It's completely mind-blowing!


A: I would be very inclined to agree with that
M: you told us, ma'am that there was just this shooting when he was coming at you from the bathroom, right?
A: Yes
M: I'm sorry, from the closet, my mistake
A: yes


So.....based on this TESTIMONY, poor Travis came from the bathroom....yes....and from the closet....yes

What a Fu**kin Liar :furious:

 

[seguek9]

Yes. What appears to be longish hair is actually a curtain of blood from the horrific gashes on his scalp. She couldn't be pulling him with his hair because it would be to short/too slippery.

Poor Travis. I see these pics and I hear opera music like you do in horror movie killings.

PS - sorry, wrong clip, but you get the idea.

Carmena Burana.....

I'm sure JA heard it too....

no...on second thought, she wasn't that sophisticated ....moo

 

[LizardQueen74]

The only problem with the closet story was the place she said she put the gun was 7' high. Now she says she is 5'5. How she got that gun down so quickly without a chair or stole or pulling something off one of the shelves is questionable. Also Travis was 5'9 why would he put a gun up so high that he would need to get a stool to retrieve the gun? If he had kids I would believe him putting it up that high. Also, there is no record of him owning a gun. He wasn't a convicted felon, so had no reason to hide the fact he owned a gun. I also think he would have gotten something like a 38 or 45 even a 357 not a 25 more like a girls gun. Or something an older person could handle something without a lot of kick. jmo

I think we're all on the same page that it's Grandpa's gun. Just speculating if she hid that gun in the closet (like you say, unlikely up high), but in the closet in a backpack like Princess suggested is completely believable.

 

[ilovewings]

Judge Perry spent more time appeasing the jury than following the trial he was charged with. The jury was stooped, stooped, stoopid and I have to say ( due to unpopular belief on this forum) that the prosecution was arrogant to the point that they didn't take the time to describe the evidence they had in hand! (We knew, we had more evidence of her crime here on WS than they ever bothered to present.) Not just the computer forensics mind you, but her every move tracked by gps!

I have no faith in the justice system until this trial is over. We could have another completely stupid jury here and we won't know until it's over. Jeez...They were asking about fingerprints for the room mates and they already were supposed to have been told that JA admitted to have killed TA!

I'm holding my breath.

moo

I am also holding my breath and you are right about the CA trial as well. I have learned that you never ever know what jurors are really thinking. sometimes they come up with bizarre reasons for acquitting or convicting. The Casey Anthony case soured me pretty much and if this ***** should walk or get manslaughter I am not sure i will get emotionally involved in any more trials. I am so heartbroken for Travis Alexander. Like Detective Flores said, if Travis had not met Jodi he would still be alive. He realized too late what she is.

 

[Hally]

couldve wouldve shouldve. her plan was to kill him, not stab once and hope for the best. 911 was never a thought

100% agree.

 

[KathrynL]

Sorry I couldn't find the link. Had to send a screen shot

Here's the link!

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/Jodi-Arias-trial-Analyst-Grant-woods-says-case-is-over-after-hearing-murder-suspects-testimony

 

[otto]

WELL this is even more unlikely. Body slam and head points south (i re watched testimony) then roll left and run down the hall, so he is standing there what? Giving you a head start? So to the end of the hall and crap kid, you went right and got in the closet.. Instead of LEAVE THE HOUSE? You confound me...

So in the closet and go for the gun, and still, he is doing what? just stood there? No WAY if he was violently coming after you, you recover from Body slam (and point the wrong way lady) and stop drop and roll (you on fire!) and run and u-turn and come back to the closet.. OH ya, you hear feet behind you running wet and naked on tile and he doesn't slip? ok...um...i think you might make yourself at home there in prison...

and she slams a door that has no lock, so he is right behind her, no way would he let her get a gun she has to climb up for

5:45 in the afternoon in Mesa, everyone and their brother is home outside, you just run downstairs and scream HELP. there. nobody is dead...see?

Thank you for the illustrations! They are much appreciated.

 

[paperwing]

Double-bounce :floorlaugh:

Depending on the surface it hit, it could have bounced up... I can see that. Too bad JM's little demonstration wasn't caught on video. It would definitely bounce on carpet - even tile, once...

I can't see an object like that just falling flat without any 'rebound' whatsoever.

It would depend on the height it was dropped from, too. I have a Ph.D physicist in the house somewhere... if I can find him I'll see what he says. He'll just look for an old camera-like object to drop so maybe I'll wait on that. He does things like that.

 

[Venom]

Could she have stabbed Travis in the back first as he was standing at the sink?

 

[paperwing]

You just can't make this sh** up.

That's right... Only JA can do that.
:floorlaugh: