jodi arias TAKES THE STAND FOR 11TH DAY #57 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[Shelby1]

Holy guys... re-watching this last week's and today's testimony after 10 days vacay. I don't know if I want a cigarette or a shower. EEEEKKKKK

I wondered where you were!


Edited to add: Not that I'm stalking you or anything lol

 

[gitana1]

Well, I think it's fair to make sure she is at least given the opportunity to be properly nourished while she's in trial all day. I think pre-trial detainees who who have not yet been convicted, should be given 3 meals a day and should not be physically compromised when they are in trial defending themselves. I believe that about all defendants in trial, not just Jodi.

I agree. 100%.

 

[bodyfx]

When a woman gives 'herself' sexually and expects a certain result eg. "he will love me forever now" and she gets a different result in that he basically takes off, doesn't return calls or well, basically uses young woman for what he needed at the time, she will feel 'like a prostitute" AFTERWARDS but not during the act. She could even feel 'raped' because emotionally she did not get what she was looking for from the experience.

OMG! this is sooooooo Arias. At the time she felt fine because she was hoping for a committed and nurturing man.

The other thing I picked up on today was CINNABON??!!?? sheesh. Travis was a doll. He was incredibly intuitive, nurturing and thoughtful. Of course he changed and was no longer the person Arias described when talking about the Cinnabons on her seat after getting off plane....but he did more than most men treating a woman like a prostitute.

She sickens me to the core. She should have plead INSANITY....like other sleuths mentioned. WAY MORE BELIEVABLE!!!

 

[LotusPawprint]

He did, which is why Jodi fabricated a migraine and blamed it on the missing lunch.

IMO this should be handled so Jodi cannot make an issue of such things.

Minor, would an appellate attorney be in court at this point or more likely after a conviction (err.. potential conviction)?

 

[dog.gone.cute]

:moo::mooersonally I really think she is getting her lunch or and I doubt....she may be refusing to eat so she will get sick. Also I think her team is aware of her lunches:moo::moo:

:seeya: Thanks ! Aha .... just as I "suspected" .... hinky, IMO ... just another Jodi tactic to stall ... MOO !

JA and her DT KNOW the jail program about eating and lunch -- good grief -- this judge does not even put in a full day for court and they get 1 1/2 hours for lunch and breaks !

:seeya:

 

[SAgal]

Christine LaCroix's Article -- AZFamily.com February 21, 2013
http://www.azfamily.com/news/Attorn...erfering-with-judicial-process-192389651.html

"Attorney: Sheriff Joe Arpaio's lunch and sleep policies interfering with judicial process"

States that defendants held in County Jail are only given 2 meals daily; breakfast and dinner at 6PM. It also states that legally no one except the Sheriff's Department can provide food to the defendants.

Personally - I'll be surprised if Sheriff Joe Arpaio changes his policy to provide Jodi Arias an additional meal during her trial to accomodate her migraine headaches. But, that's just my opinion after reading this article. MOO

 

[artsy1]

I thought the inmate is offered 3 meals a day-they don't have to eat it. Correct me if i'm wrong legal eagles.

I'm not a legal eagle, but during Elizabeth Johnson's trial, her atty brought up that inmates are only given 2 meals a day, and if they want to eat more, they need to buy snacks. EJ was allowed to bring part of her breakfast to court as her lunch.

 

[seguek9]

I'm behind....but did anybody get a screen shot of the judge closing her eyes in 'exasperation ' while the jury filed in after the unexpected recess? She really looked stressed.....

 

[seattlechiquita]

Yes and I can see this being a factor in appeals. Arpaio is being stupid.

snipped by me. I was thinking the same thing and it sort of scared me-- this could cause ALL convictions in Maricopa to come into question for the feeding rules of this a-hole. (NOT an Arpaio fan), and do away with the good work of the DA's in all cases.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I asked Mr Pizza to put in to words what his point of view is at this point. I pointed out last night it occurred to me he doesn't follow the case like we do, word for word, video, opinions on just about everything . He comes home and watches the Aft. testimony and truly plays Devils advocate with me everyday to the point of an argument. Then I realized he was a damm good 13th juror.

Here is what he had to say as I asked him to type so I could share here.

Mr Pizza's words..

To me the biggest question was the change of weapons. If the shooting came before the stabbing as she claims, why did she put down a loaded gun to get the knife? If she were truly in fear for her life she would have pulled the trigger again and again until the gun was empty, followed by using the gun as a club. The only reason to put down the gun and get the knife was to mutilate her victim. If the stabbings came first, then after he was stabbed 29 times and his throat slashed ear to ear he certainly wasn't threatening her life, why then go get the gun and shoot him in the head? Again only to assure the death of the defenseless victim. So to me, the fact that both weapons were used indicate it cannot be self defense. There was either an intent to kill and mutilate or mutilate and kill with no other explanation.

Mr. pizza, Amen!

 

[LambChop]

I can TESTIFY to this exact action INCLUDING hitting emerg for a shot and having hubby drive me home. She showed no signs of actual migraine. IMO

I'm not surprised she'd have a migraine if she did not eat. She should be able to eat lunch. That is cruel if it's true. Some people do not eat lunch, myself included in that group, unless it is something special. But I'm not testifying in a trial so while she is on the stand she should be able to eat at lunchtime. I just can't imagine why her defense team decided to stop court right in the middle of a cross when they had to have known about this all along. What is the matter with them? Did they save it for when Juan was putting the pressure on her? It's not up to Juan to ask her if she has had lunch. jmo

 

[carnnell]

The rules of the jail are for everyone, not just JA. If she wants to eat while she is at the courthouse, she is required to bring something from her "brunch".

I don't have any sympathy for her. If the rule was 3 meals and the jail wasn't supplying her with lunch, as Nurmi stated in court, then it would be wrong. The jail is treating her as they would any other inmate. She is not special. If they treat her different, then the other inmates would be complaining.

Rules=Rules. This is something JA doesn't think applies to her. JMO

I do want her to get a fair trial, just not special treatment.

I bet the Sheriff has something to say about providing Jodi a lunch but the other inmates don't receive lunch during trials. I have a big problem with that one. I would tend to lean toward what the Sheriff have to say about that one.

Please correct me (attorneys) if I am wrong, I don't think the courts have jurisdiction over what goes on in the jails, especially the rules, much less a Defense Attorney have thing to say.

 

[KPinMN]

I provided the link upthread

Muchas Gracias! :yourock:

 

[thefragile7393]

So, who's lobbying for changes in the system? Seriously, lack of lunch deprives someone of their rights? Is this what we've come to?

Hey, how about all the points Juan Martinez scored today. Did he not decimate JA's testimony on so many levels?

Yes. In this country we do provide food for those in jail, prison, or pre-detention. Lack of food can affect one's performance, and most defendants don't testify and aren't under the pressure of testifying and cross examine...so it isn't a big deal to sit there. In her situation, she needs food to create energy to testify and I don't see how that is a big deal for that to be part of her right to a fair trial. I don't want to hear how years from now she files that she didn't have a fair trial because she had low blood sugar or other BS that kept her from testifying to her full ability and therefore needs a new trial.

BUT, if it turns out she is getting a third meal in then that is a whole other ball of wax. One report says they get only two; NG has footage of 3 bags. So....only one is right.

 

[STEADFAST]

Sympathetic on what grounds?

I find it extremely powerful that so many women on this board who have lived the life Jodi describes on the stand, and for some far worse, feel so little empathy for her and instead throw the weight of their compassion to Travis.

Doesn't it stand to reason if anyone is likely to find empathy it would be those who are intimately familiar, having lived it themselves?

The scary thing is, though, that you never know how the jury is perceiving something (whisper, "CA trial".) We have the benefit of other posters, talking heads, etc., but if a juror got it into his or her head at the beginning that Jodi is a victim of Travis and of the prosecutor, they could be looking at everything said in a totally different way than we do. They could discount and justify the inconsistencies and lies just the way Jodi is doing. They could be thinking the same things that some of the more outrageous "experts" are saying. I hope, hope, hope not. But, after the CA trial, I promised myself to always keep in mind that what I think is obvious is not going to necessarily be obvious to others.

Think how obtuse and willfully ignorant posters seem if they don't agree with your position on one case but how wise and insightful the very same ones seem on another case where they do agree with you.

Must say, I don't believe one word Jodi says.

 

[minor4th]

Minor, would an appellate attorney be in court at this point or more likely after a conviction (err.. potential conviction)?

Doubt that an appellate attorney would be in court at this point -- they would not be getting paid, and there aren't many (or any) attorneys who will work for free for months on end.

 

[Wolfpack Fan]

The Petersen woman is going to be on Jane Velez-Mitchell's show right now.

 

[QueenD]

Maybe we need to bring in Da Dessert Lady in for this trial!

 

[Bada Bing]

She was becoming more animated as this testimony went on. Not the sign of a person in the disabling throws of a migraine. This was all Nurmi panicking and stopping the Jodi Sociopathy Train.

Arias has a migraine starting at 4:30 p.m. each day? I didn't hear him make this request when he was presenting his direct exam of Arias.

 

[seguek9]

Bias tria

:seeya: Thanks ! Aha .... just as I "suspected" .... hinky, IMO ... just another Jodi tactic to stall ... MOO !

JA and her DT KNOW the jail program about eating and lunch -- good grief -- this judge does not even put in a full day for court and they get 1 1/2 hours for lunch and breaks !

:seeya:

With all due respect, the Judge is still dealing with other cases *before* the Arias trial even starts at 1030 iirc moo

Correct me if I'm wrong....please