Afternoon testimony
--Judge tells JA that when responding to questions she must let Mr. Martinez finish before starting to speak as the court reporter can only type one person at a time.
--JM asks about the car rental in Redding, the white car, more to her liking because of the issue with
--JM says that car had a capacity for 12 gallons
Exhibit 237.01A, Gas receipt in Winnamucca in Nevada. JM asks her about it and JA says that her gas light was on. JA purchased 12.79 gallons of gas. JA never said on direct examination that she ran out of gas. Nurmi objects...foundation. Sidebar.
--JM asks her if she filled her car up with gas. JA says she put gas in it but not sure if she filled it up. 12.175 gallons of gas were purchased. JM says at least we know the gas tank holds at least 12.175 gallons of gas.
--JM asks her about before the trip, she was at the car rental place in Redding for 0800 hours and in anticipation of that she called Darryl Brewer. JA says that she didn't sleep that night. JA made a number of telephone calls to him. JA says "probably" she isn't sure. JM says you at least made two phone calls to him. JA says if that is what her phone records say then yes...JM says I don't want to know what the phone records say I want to know what you remember.
--JA called Daryl at the end of May and asked him if she had any spare gas cans. JA says "that sounds right". JM asks if it that is a yes or a no.
--JM is once again asking if she is having trouble with her memory leading up to her trip and JA says..."leading up to it...yeah a bit".
--JA says there are some things she can recall and some things she doesn't.
--JM asks her if she is having trouble remembering some things from her whole life.
--JM says at the end of May you really don't remember if you made a phone call to DB.
--JM says that you called him because you wanted to talk to him about some gas cans. JA says that wasn't the purpose of the call.
--JM says that the other thing you told him was that you were going to Mesa. JA says that is not correct.
--JM asks her about the friendship she maintained with DB after they broke up.
--JM says she felt comfortable enough to ask him for a favour. JA says what favour. JM says the gas cans. <they dance around the gas can issue and Jodi is smiling>.
--JM says there is more than one conversation about the gas cans. JA says she doesn't remember.
--JM asks her if it is true that before she went on the trip she told him she was going to Mesa. JA says it is not true.
--JM: My question to you is what you told him...that before you went on your trip did you tell him you were going to Mesa. JA keeps saying that she told DB she was going to Utah.
--JM asks her why she didn't just go and buy gas cans. JA says they were expensive. JA says she didn't have the money in her budget.
--JM says so you put them in the trunk of this car that had floormats. JA says that the car didn't have any floor mats.
--JM sleeps at her sister's place and then gets up and then starts her trip. <more dancing around the details>,.
--JM: after you slept at your sister's house did you get up and start your trip to Monteray.
--JA says that it was past midnight when we got to Monteray. <she says "we" twice>
--In Santa Cruz she met up with Matt McCartney, and spend the night where he was living.
--JM asks her what time she got up in the morning. JA says it would have been before Jack had to go to school but she doesn't remember.
--JM asks her if she had plans to meet up with MM.
--JA says it was beforehand. She can't remember when
--JM: did MM go with you the next morning to visit DB? Matt did not go with her to DB's place.
--JM asks her if when she got to DB's place if she checked her email. She says she checked the one in her MySpace account. JM asks her what the purpose was. JA says she hadn't done it in a few days.
--JM says that at some point she gets the gas cans. JM asks her if it was before or after Jack left for school.
--JM asks her where she put the cans. JA says the trunk. JM asks her where her luggage is. JA says in the trunk.
--JA says she was at DBs for about 30 minutes. She leave and then comes back to return a remote for DB's TV or DVD. JM asks her how the remote got into her car. JA says she doesn't know.
--From there she drove to Selinas. She got her nails done. JM says "and it took quite a while, right?". JA says that she had to wait. <Numi looks ready to take notes now>
--JM says you told us about the gas cans from Mr. Brewer and JA says "you never asked me".
--JM asking her about another gas can she bought from Walmart in Selinas. JA thinks it was the same size as the others.
--JA says she returned the gas can. JM says so now you have a capacity of 10 gallons.
--JM says so why is it....that when you go to the Arco and fill up with gas and go inside. Exhibit 237.012, receipt for ???? gallons, Exhibit 237.013 for 2.77 gallons
--JM asks JA if she remembers when DB testified about the 5 gallon gas cans. JM asks her if she was there. JA says she was there but sometimes her mind wanders.
--Exhibit 237.011, Pasedena, receipt, June 3, 2008 2042 hours, 8.301 gallons, price $4.169
--JM is asking her about 5 gallons gas cans so the receipt must be for the car, JM says there is no reason to believe that the receipt is for the gas cans. JM says you were taking the gas cans for a reason. JM asks her that if you were taking them to have extra gas wouldn't you want them to have the maximum amount? Nurmi objects...relevance.
--Exhibit 237.001 is the receipt for you filling up the rental car with gas. JM says and you pumped your own gas right? JA: yes. JM: and you paid with your debit card right? JA: yes
--JM: with regard to the gas that you purchased inside, 237.012 you paid with cash. Paid $40 and got 9.59 gallons. Time is 2046 hours. four minutes after the first transaction (Exhibit 237.001)
--Exhibit 237.013, same gas station, time is 2053 hours, five minutes later than the transaction involving the 10 gallons of gas. JM says that the five minutes would allow her to go from the inside back out to her car.
--JM says that we know that at that particular gas station you spent $35.06 and $40.00 and 9 we are now talking you spent $84 in gas. JA says she is not good at math.
--JM says that you have driven all the way down there and JM reminds her that she said that she said that gas was cheaper in Utah and Nevada. JM says that California is a progressive state in that it has gas stations everywhere doesn't it? JM says it seems like her fears about gas in California were not well founded.
--JM says that you really didn't have a need for gas if you were driving through Arizona right?
--JM reminds her that on direct exam. the Ford Focus was running out of gas every 170 miles??
--JM says that you filled up with 12 gallons of gas every time right? Nurmi objects, foundation..
--JM says if you are running low on gas in Desert Center you would put about 12 gallons of gas in the car and then in Winnimucca you would put in another 12 gallons of gas right? JA says that the Shell station had cheap gas. (hard to keep track as JA is playing the word games again)
--JM asks her how long it took her to get to Mesa and how much gas she used.
--JM asks her about the third gas can and JA says "not at that time.
--Exhibit 237.008, receipt, 5 gallon gas can, bought in Selinas at Walmart.
--JM asks JA about her goal for getting gas cans and if she wants to save on gas, why is it you are willing to pay almost $13 for a gas can? JA says she returned it. JM asks her for the receipt. JA says she did not get one. JM says "you believe that when you took that gas can back Walmart didn't give you any documentation for returning it". JA says she does not remember.
--JM says that if she bought a gas can for $13 it would not help save for gas.
--JM asks her if it would have made more sense to fill up in Nevada.
--JM: At the time you filled up these cans your plan was to go to Utah.
--JM says if you are going to go to Nevada from Pasedena you can get there on one tank of gas? JM asks her if she believed that there woudn't be any gas stations
--JM says that it would have made more sense to drive from Pasedena north bound to the border.
--JA says she still wanted to save gas but her priority changed.
--Exhibit 237.12, 10 gallons of gas. Exhibit 237.013, $20 in gas.
--JM says that she was able to put 10 gallons plus 2.774 in containers.
--JM is asking her about Exhibit 237.012 went to the car. JA says that is possible.
--Exhibit 237.001 went into the gas can. JM asks her why is she breaking it up? You went to the pump and put 8.3 gallons in. Made the transaction then went inside to prepay $40. (Exhibit 237.002). JM says "you went inside". JA says she knows she went inside but not sure what payment. The first receipt doesn't have the name of a clerk.
--Jm says that really what she is doing is filling the two gas cans first and then the third can, JA says she didn't have a third can, JM says then you filled up the car.
--JM asks her about when she went to the Starbucks she got a strawberry Frap and called Ryan and says that her plan was still to go up to Utah. It's about a 12 hour drive. In talking to Ryan you never told him you were not going to go stright to Utah. JA says no.
--JM says that in any conversations with Ryan you never told him you were going to take a detour. JM asks her if she told MM she was going to take a detour. Didn't tell DB either.
--JM says that one of the things she took on this trip was the gas cans. The other thing you took was...you brought a gun didn't you? JA says she didn't.
--JM now asking about a conversation JA had on June 10, 2008 with Det. Flores. During that conversation you and he discussed a number of things. One of the objectives was to get the detective to look somewhere else. JA: yes.
--JM says so what you were doing was in your best interest. JA says "I wouldn't put it like that".
--JM: If you don't want him to look at you as a suspect that is the goal right?
--JA: says she would attempt to not say anything.
--Judge tells JA that when responding to questions she must let Mr. Martinez finish before starting to speak as the court reporter can only type one person at a time.
--JM asks about the car rental in Redding, the white car, more to her liking because of the issue with
--JM says that car had a capacity for 12 gallons
Exhibit 237.01A, Gas receipt in Winnamucca in Nevada. JM asks her about it and JA says that her gas light was on. JA purchased 12.79 gallons of gas. JA never said on direct examination that she ran out of gas. Nurmi objects...foundation. Sidebar.
--JM asks her if she filled her car up with gas. JA says she put gas in it but not sure if she filled it up. 12.175 gallons of gas were purchased. JM says at least we know the gas tank holds at least 12.175 gallons of gas.
--JM asks her about before the trip, she was at the car rental place in Redding for 0800 hours and in anticipation of that she called Darryl Brewer. JA says that she didn't sleep that night. JA made a number of telephone calls to him. JA says "probably" she isn't sure. JM says you at least made two phone calls to him. JA says if that is what her phone records say then yes...JM says I don't want to know what the phone records say I want to know what you remember.
--JA called Daryl at the end of May and asked him if she had any spare gas cans. JA says "that sounds right". JM asks if it that is a yes or a no.
--JM is once again asking if she is having trouble with her memory leading up to her trip and JA says..."leading up to it...yeah a bit".
--JA says there are some things she can recall and some things she doesn't.
--JM asks her if she is having trouble remembering some things from her whole life.
--JM says at the end of May you really don't remember if you made a phone call to DB.
--JM says that you called him because you wanted to talk to him about some gas cans. JA says that wasn't the purpose of the call.
--JM says that the other thing you told him was that you were going to Mesa. JA says that is not correct.
--JM asks her about the friendship she maintained with DB after they broke up.
--JM says she felt comfortable enough to ask him for a favour. JA says what favour. JM says the gas cans. <they dance around the gas can issue and Jodi is smiling>.
--JM says there is more than one conversation about the gas cans. JA says she doesn't remember.
--JM asks her if it is true that before she went on the trip she told him she was going to Mesa. JA says it is not true.
--JM: My question to you is what you told him...that before you went on your trip did you tell him you were going to Mesa. JA keeps saying that she told DB she was going to Utah.
--JM asks her why she didn't just go and buy gas cans. JA says they were expensive. JA says she didn't have the money in her budget.
--JM says so you put them in the trunk of this car that had floormats. JA says that the car didn't have any floor mats.
--JM sleeps at her sister's place and then gets up and then starts her trip. <more dancing around the details>,.
--JM: after you slept at your sister's house did you get up and start your trip to Monteray.
--JA says that it was past midnight when we got to Monteray. <she says "we" twice>
--In Santa Cruz she met up with Matt McCartney, and spend the night where he was living.
--JM asks her what time she got up in the morning. JA says it would have been before Jack had to go to school but she doesn't remember.
--JM asks her if she had plans to meet up with MM.
--JA says it was beforehand. She can't remember when
--JM: did MM go with you the next morning to visit DB? Matt did not go with her to DB's place.
--JM asks her if when she got to DB's place if she checked her email. She says she checked the one in her MySpace account. JM asks her what the purpose was. JA says she hadn't done it in a few days.
--JM says that at some point she gets the gas cans. JM asks her if it was before or after Jack left for school.
--JM asks her where she put the cans. JA says the trunk. JM asks her where her luggage is. JA says in the trunk.
--JA says she was at DBs for about 30 minutes. She leave and then comes back to return a remote for DB's TV or DVD. JM asks her how the remote got into her car. JA says she doesn't know.
--From there she drove to Selinas. She got her nails done. JM says "and it took quite a while, right?". JA says that she had to wait. <Numi looks ready to take notes now>
--JM says you told us about the gas cans from Mr. Brewer and JA says "you never asked me".
--JM asking her about another gas can she bought from Walmart in Selinas. JA thinks it was the same size as the others.
--JA says she returned the gas can. JM says so now you have a capacity of 10 gallons.
--JM says so why is it....that when you go to the Arco and fill up with gas and go inside. Exhibit 237.012, receipt for ???? gallons, Exhibit 237.013 for 2.77 gallons
--JM asks JA if she remembers when DB testified about the 5 gallon gas cans. JM asks her if she was there. JA says she was there but sometimes her mind wanders.
--Exhibit 237.011, Pasedena, receipt, June 3, 2008 2042 hours, 8.301 gallons, price $4.169
--JM is asking her about 5 gallons gas cans so the receipt must be for the car, JM says there is no reason to believe that the receipt is for the gas cans. JM says you were taking the gas cans for a reason. JM asks her that if you were taking them to have extra gas wouldn't you want them to have the maximum amount? Nurmi objects...relevance.
--Exhibit 237.001 is the receipt for you filling up the rental car with gas. JM says and you pumped your own gas right? JA: yes. JM: and you paid with your debit card right? JA: yes
--JM: with regard to the gas that you purchased inside, 237.012 you paid with cash. Paid $40 and got 9.59 gallons. Time is 2046 hours. four minutes after the first transaction (Exhibit 237.001)
--Exhibit 237.013, same gas station, time is 2053 hours, five minutes later than the transaction involving the 10 gallons of gas. JM says that the five minutes would allow her to go from the inside back out to her car.
--JM says that we know that at that particular gas station you spent $35.06 and $40.00 and 9 we are now talking you spent $84 in gas. JA says she is not good at math.
--JM says that you have driven all the way down there and JM reminds her that she said that she said that gas was cheaper in Utah and Nevada. JM says that California is a progressive state in that it has gas stations everywhere doesn't it? JM says it seems like her fears about gas in California were not well founded.
--JM says that you really didn't have a need for gas if you were driving through Arizona right?
--JM reminds her that on direct exam. the Ford Focus was running out of gas every 170 miles??
--JM says that you filled up with 12 gallons of gas every time right? Nurmi objects, foundation..
--JM says if you are running low on gas in Desert Center you would put about 12 gallons of gas in the car and then in Winnimucca you would put in another 12 gallons of gas right? JA says that the Shell station had cheap gas. (hard to keep track as JA is playing the word games again)
--JM asks her how long it took her to get to Mesa and how much gas she used.
--JM asks her about the third gas can and JA says "not at that time.
--Exhibit 237.008, receipt, 5 gallon gas can, bought in Selinas at Walmart.
--JM asks JA about her goal for getting gas cans and if she wants to save on gas, why is it you are willing to pay almost $13 for a gas can? JA says she returned it. JM asks her for the receipt. JA says she did not get one. JM says "you believe that when you took that gas can back Walmart didn't give you any documentation for returning it". JA says she does not remember.
--JM says that if she bought a gas can for $13 it would not help save for gas.
--JM asks her if it would have made more sense to fill up in Nevada.
--JM: At the time you filled up these cans your plan was to go to Utah.
--JM says if you are going to go to Nevada from Pasedena you can get there on one tank of gas? JM asks her if she believed that there woudn't be any gas stations
--JM says that it would have made more sense to drive from Pasedena north bound to the border.
--JA says she still wanted to save gas but her priority changed.
--Exhibit 237.12, 10 gallons of gas. Exhibit 237.013, $20 in gas.
--JM says that she was able to put 10 gallons plus 2.774 in containers.
--JM is asking her about Exhibit 237.012 went to the car. JA says that is possible.
--Exhibit 237.001 went into the gas can. JM asks her why is she breaking it up? You went to the pump and put 8.3 gallons in. Made the transaction then went inside to prepay $40. (Exhibit 237.002). JM says "you went inside". JA says she knows she went inside but not sure what payment. The first receipt doesn't have the name of a clerk.
--Jm says that really what she is doing is filling the two gas cans first and then the third can, JA says she didn't have a third can, JM says then you filled up the car.
--JM asks her about when she went to the Starbucks she got a strawberry Frap and called Ryan and says that her plan was still to go up to Utah. It's about a 12 hour drive. In talking to Ryan you never told him you were not going to go stright to Utah. JA says no.
--JM says that in any conversations with Ryan you never told him you were going to take a detour. JM asks her if she told MM she was going to take a detour. Didn't tell DB either.
--JM says that one of the things she took on this trip was the gas cans. The other thing you took was...you brought a gun didn't you? JA says she didn't.
--JM now asking about a conversation JA had on June 10, 2008 with Det. Flores. During that conversation you and he discussed a number of things. One of the objectives was to get the detective to look somewhere else. JA: yes.
--JM says so what you were doing was in your best interest. JA says "I wouldn't put it like that".
--JM: If you don't want him to look at you as a suspect that is the goal right?
--JA: says she would attempt to not say anything.
