Jodi Arias-Day 8
Afternoon testimony
--Nurmi asks Jodi about returning her rental car. Says she eventually returned it but not on time. Was supposed to return it on the Friday but returned it on the Saturday instead.
--She had overslept and had underestimated the time it was take from West Jordan to Yreka, instead she took the highway around Mount ??? and on to Yreka. She called the rental place first.
--On the Saturday she went to Redding, it was her sister-in-law (she thinks) that drove her to return the car.
--Now asking about what day her shift was that she was scheduled to work? That friday at 4:30. She went to her Grandma's house, changed and went to work.
--Because of that schedule she didn't have a chance to speak with her family. She was in a rush, did not have an opporunity to speak to them.
--Was living with her grandparents at this time, had a pretty good idea that Travis was dead, something she wasn't accepting in her head, she kind of knew it but wasn't facing it. Nurmi says she wanted to deny that reality. Jodi says "pretty much".
--At this point in time did she have any knowledge of anybody else knowing of Travis' death? Answer is no.
--She was definitely fearing that. The fear became a reality early in the morning on June 10th, sometime after midnight, Dan Freeman called her, she saw his name come up on her phone, she thought it would be the phone call she was dreading.
--Based on the phone call, it wasn't definitively said that Travis was dead but she assumed it was the case.
--She sought out other confirmation. She called Travis friend, ?????, no answer so she called Zac Billings? Can't remember but she was talking to his girlfriend, she wouldn't say much. Got Bishop Leyton's phone number and she called him and he told her that Travis was dead.
--Nurmi asks how she reacted to that news. Martinez objects, Judge asks lawyers to approach.
--When she received confirmation from Bishop Leyton that Travis was in fact dead, her reaction was...she just remembered she was on the phone in the living room and she doubled over and started to sob.
--Nurmi asks if there was still a part of her that was hoping that he wasn't dead. Jodi says that she was hoping it wasn't real, it was a nightmare.
--Still to this day she wishes it was still a nightmare. She wasn't able to deny it as much in her head, it was facing her squarely.
--Jodi describes the emotions that caused her to double over, it's more like things that were going through her head. She didn't know how his friends had found him and what everyone was going through, she thought of Napoleon, and she didn't know what to think, it was a disaster, and she had to hang up with Bishop Leyton.
--After she hung up she was scared she would get arrested the next day. She was still trying to keep up the pretense...objection..sustained.
--She feared arrest...Nurmi asks what her plan was...she said she knew she would get arrested or she would kill herself. She hadn't decided yet to move to Monteray, but she decided that a few days later.
--re: conversation with Detective Flores, it was 3 a.m. when she spoke to Bishop Leyton, and spoke to Flores in the afternoon.
--Says that Leslie encouraged her to call Flores...she said...Martinez objects...hearsay....sustained
--Called Flores...Leslie had encouraged her to do so....also had her own reasons to call him. If she didn't call him it would look more suspicious so in order to pretend she was never there she called him.
--Nurmi asks why she didn't call him and tell him what happened? She says she was scared. She couldn't imagine admitting to something like that...couldn't imagine doing something like that.
--Called Flores to keep up the facade. Didn't want anyone in Utah to know either. To keep up the facade she called Flores.
--re: gun bought from Don's Sporting Goods. Went through the background check. Thinks she did the paperwork on July 1st and took possession of it July 11th. It was a 9mm gun.
--There is a lot if time between June 10th and early July, three weeks or so...Nurmi asks if she made any attempts to kill herself in those three weeks.
--During that time period she also made various calls to Flores. Why was she continuing to do that? She says because she wanted to continue to look like she was participating and wanted to see what information she could garner from him.
--Nurmi asks her if she was trying to see if her arrest was imminent. Jodi says she knew her arrest was imminent but she wanted to try and determine how much time she had.
--She had access to guns in her grandparents home. She says her parents also had guns. It didn't really come to her to kill herself until she had possession of the gun.
--Nurmi asks if there was some other reason for purchasing the gun. Why did she choose to purchase the gun? Jodi says several reason, her Dad has guns, Matt has guns, Darryl has guns, she wanted to see herself being a responsible gun owner, it was something she always saw herself doing. In the summer she was working at a restaurant called Purple Plum and met a friend there and she used to go out to pan for gold with this friend, it would also be like a camping trip, everybody on board was all men, they all drank, even through they were all friends, she was the only female, she thought it would be good to have with her when they went out there for protection. She was going to go on the camping trip and wanted it then. It was a bunch of guys and she didn't feel as safe around guys. Definitely after June 4th, she didn't feel safe at all after June 4th.
--After Travis' death was discovered there was memorial service at his church in Mesa and the funeral was held, she believes in Riverside. She tried to attend both but she only made it to the one in Mesa.
--Wanted to attend the services, if she didn't show up it would look suspicious, people knew they were close...Travis told her one time...
--Jodi says that her and TA talked about her funeral one time...he said...objection...sustained...
--jodi says that her and TA had an agreement or something to that effect that they would attend each other's funerals.
--Keeping that promise still meant something to her because he would have come to hers even if it was in Antarctica
--Nurmi says that TA throws her down on the floor, says I'm going to kill you *****...wouldn't that throw that out the window?
--Nurmi asks Jodi if she still viewed Travis as a good person...Martinez objects...leading...Jodi says that she has seen very very good sides of him and that is the person she wanted to embrace.
--Jodi says she has sides she isn't proud of and he did too and he had really good sides too <Jodi is crying on the stand>.
--Nurmi asks if she had forgiven Travis for attacking her, she says she blamed herself so she doesn't know how much there was to forgive.
--Nurmi asks her what was her experience. She was the Freeman's house in Gilbert after the service and she was in the bedroom taking time out, and she felt like he was there, <more nose wiping>, it helped her to know that he was okay and that he was in a better place and maybe he wasn't mad anymore. <Samantha, TA's sister is very upset and crying>
--After that experience Nurmi asks her if she forgives herself for not escaping. Martinez objects and Nurmi mumbles something and Juan tells the judge that the way it works is he objects and the judge decides. Judge asks lawyers to approach the bench.
--Earlier testimony, Jodi testified she felt like she couldn't escape due to the incident in 2007 where he caught her running down the hallway. So in 2008 on June 4th, based on what she said earlier, she didn't consider it a viable option...Martinez objects..sustained. Jodi says that she couldn't escape through the bedroom door, she thought she could run into the closet and out the other door.
--So when she was at the Freeman's and she was having this experience she did not forgive herself for having that other option.
--Nurmi asks today if she has forgiven herself for not having another option. Martinez objects...relevance. Judge asks for them to approach the bench.