jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND FOR 9TH DAY #48 *may contain graphic and adult content*

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  • #921
He is not focusing on small issues. Right out the gate he attacked her travis the evil abuser broke my finger with evidence that the finger was not broken in may, january, april or anyday jodi told us. he put up EVIDENCE that knocked that lie out the park. He pointed out the her diary which held her private thoughts before she had a reason to start fabricating mentioned NO ABUSE or PEDO from travis, he takes the time to point out that during the times when these events had supposedly happened JODI WROTE NOTHING SIGNIFICANT happened..blah blah blah. He knocked down her finger stories by showing the jury all the lies about how she injured that finger...

He Knocked out the PEDO claims by proving that Travis was not home during her walk in and she was at work. Again another major lie used in her defense (He was a PEDO)

He knocked down her baptismal rape story by reading from her journal that she enjoyed all the freaky sex tootsie pops etc that her heart desired. There was no baptismal rape that day. Another big lie in her case. She speaks glowingly about that date..reminicing about all the freaky things they did and how much she liked it and loved travis...

He went over her obsesive need to confront the men she was no longer dating by peeping and confronting the ex when she knew the relationship is over. He unmasked Jodi for the confrontational crazy person she is. and how far she would go to do this. She drove miles to confront the woman and her friend was so scared that he tipped the girl off and gave Jodi the wrong apartment. Crazy Jodi went out of her way to find that woman's apartment. Her Jealousy led her to confront and scare others.

He is showing us now how she conspired in jail in 2012 with matt by attempting to tamper with his interview with the prosecution.."You ****ed up..." She smuggled this coded message out to him so that his testimony wouldn't contradict her lies she told her attorneys..THIS IS BIG. SHOWS THAT SHE WOULD GO TO ANY LENGTHS TO FABRICATE FALSE TESTIMONY..

All of these are big points scored. He's knocking down stories crucial to her defense. exposing them as lies. This is day 1 of his cross and he's dealing with a psycho who is purposely misleading the jury, lying about events, acting as if she can't comprehend any questions asked by manipulating his words. This is no easy task. Do you think he should question her Nurmi style and let her slip under the radar. He's doing his job effectively and anyone with two eyes can see the significance in his cross so far. He's restoring travis' reputation and pointing out obvious and BLATANT lies with evidence. He's showing us who the real jodi is.

Today we left off with her road trip..i think he might introduce evidence of her dying her hair at the nail salon...Its only been 1 day. Give him a break.

That's exactly what I mean. None of that PROVES anything in court. It gives the jury a reason to believe it or not, but it's not proof. He's got blatant lies on tape, but he's choosing to spend hours trying to discredit minor bs that he can't possibly disprove. jmo
 
  • #922
NO, she WAS the ABUSER in their relationship! I do not think that Travis EVER raised a hand (or foot) to her in anger. Every time I hear one of the supposed "Domestic Violence" experts (sarcasm) on JVM, NG, and Dr. Drew who say that she was abused have let her pull the wool over their eyes. On one of the shows tonight kept saying "but that doesn't prove that she killed him?" obviously are spouting opinions not backed up by facts in this case. I wanted to yell "what do you mean it doesn't prove that she killed him, SHE has already admitted that she killed him you dumb witch!!!! :furious:

Yes I agree. I also thought Travis never really loved her. When he was talking on the phone to her on the "sex tape call" to me it sounded like she was just someone to have sex with. He just didn't talk like someone in love. However you could tell she had a major crush on him, and worshiped every bone in his body.
 
  • #923
The best part is she thinks she won! She got him to change his tone and demeanor!!! Roflmao!

She's soooo inhuman and stupid it's laughable!


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You're right, she did think she won! ROFLMAO! :floorlaugh:
 
  • #924
Margins blown again. ?Getting old. tia
 
  • #925
Were Travis's sisters in court today?

Yes, the same 2 as everyday but I thought I saw a 3rd sister as well but don't quote me on it since haven't seen the photo's of his family lately, it upsets me too much knowing what they all must be enduring thru all this :heartbeat:
 
  • #926
I think something kind of important came out of that segment though. She had to read out loud some of her journal, about how wonderful and fulfilling their sexual fantasy life was. And that showed two things, imo. One, that she was totally into that stuff and it wasn't all forced on her by Travis.

And two, it showed that she wrote very personal stuff in her journal. So it doesn't work to use that weak excuse that she was afraid to write anything too secretive.
And she wasn't too afraid to tell her father about Travis.
 
  • #927
I think Juan Martinez is doing a fantastic job. On one point today, though, I wish he would have elaborated more upon the potential of the hand injury occurring on June 4th. Such as, "Do you recall Det. Flores telling you that those types of hand injuries commonly occur when the knife slips during a stabbing?"

And, she said "no" when he asked if the hand injury occurred on June 4th; he could have then responded with "how do you know you didn't hurt your hand during the stabbing if you don't remember the stabbing? And didn't you testify that you were bleeding in the rental car afterward?"

But perhaps he is saving this line of questioning for later on.
 
  • #928
I watch all of the talking heads...I know but sometimes not too many but once in a while they do say something interesting...it could not have been on NG because from day one, the church lady has hated JA.
She never says anything positive about her, and if one of her guests tries to she shuts off
their mic.
She has as much venom for her as we all do.
 
  • #929
He didn't micro-focus; she did. He showed that her journal entry couldn't have been more positive about the sex that night. She refused to say that she enjoyed it. Then she refused to say she liked it, after she already said she liked it (but didn't enjoy it). Interspersed were episodes of her acting like she didn't understand that they were talking about the same night and some 'oh! that night, yes, but No. Oh, well this part and not that part so I can't answer that.' Ad nauseum.

She is just trying to confuse the jury. But Juan still showed the key things there: her positive journal entry and her refusal to say she enjoyed it now, contradicting her own entry.

In the defense's version, remember, it was a terribly degrading and abusive experience. Not with that journal entry, it wasn't. I do hope that's clear between all her BS and games, because she will keep playing those.

EXACTLY. She was the one trying to muddle everything and misdirect endlessly. He did not give up and let her win. He stayed on her and forced her to eventually answer his questions. It did keep them in the weeds a little, but he also did some major damage to the defense. And this was only day one.

They had 8 days of mind numbing torturous tedious testimony. Juan got up there and shook everything up. It might have been a bit chaotic at times, but the jury was awake and engaged. JMO
 
  • #930
Im so sick of the bleeding hearts. This is crazy. The women is clearly playing games and talking heads/people are acting like he should treat her like some elderly woman crossing the street. Her attitude proved that she is not some shaking demure afraid of conflict woman. She is in direct contrast to her battered woman sham by getting testy right back, asserting attitude. You would expect that skaing to start the tears, submission. NOPE! she gave it right back and was sassy. I wonder if a man sat there accused of the same crimes against a woman would people feel he should be easy on him. This world is stuck in the 1800's. She is manipulating even the most logical people with her tactics. Its sad to see. Its like only a select few can see the games she's playing and get "it"
 
  • #931
Margins blown again. ?Getting old. tia

I don't see any images on this page which would be too big and blow the margins...is there another way the margins get blown? Sorry if it was me for writing something too long? :what:
 
  • #932
ok .. so this afternoon, I thought I head Juan say 'your former attorney' (when referring to Ann Campbell getting the magazines). But thought I must have heard it wrong, but now I just heard Dr.D say the same thing. Did this Ann Campbell actually represent Jodi at some point? maybe when JA was trying to be her own attorney?
I remember someone did a great post about all the different lawyers she's had, so maybe someone remembers this. I did a quick google search and didn't find anything

This comes from article dated Oct 15,2012:

The trial was originally set to begin February 21, but is delayed until October because Arias' death penalty-qualified public defender, Victoria Washington, withdrew from the case December 23. A death penalty-qualified defense attorney is key to the case during jury selection and will play a major role during the sentencing phase if Arias is convicted of first-degree murder.

Stephens appointed Jennifer Willmott as Arias’ new death penalty-qualified defense attorney. Between now and the new start date of October 17, Willmott will get up to speed on the case and Arias’ self-defense strategy.


So I'm guessing the December 23 by the date of article then refering to Feb 21st that it was Dec 23rd 2011 she withdrew thus the trial didn't start on Feb 21st 2012 and now in this Oct 15 2012 article is indicating JW would only have a few days/weeks thus why perhaps the Trial did not start in Oct 2012 but Jan 2013

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2012/01/03/jodi-arias-murder-trial-date
 
  • #933
Today rendered me speechless for a while. It was a momentous day in this trial. :eye: :eye:

I was surprised that some seemed to think JA would shake like a "chihuahua" during cross. No, she revealed well the psychopath underneath. Psychopaths do not know or understand fear as we do. But arrogance? That is their old reliable.

Any semblance of the meek, soft-spoken, naive little girl she was trying to put on the for the jury was just shattered today, folks. She valued her pride above all, including keeping up her schoolgirl act. She was cold, snarky, rude, and at times belligerently evasive. Mr. Martinez brought this out of her in day one of cross (along with the admission of multiple lies).

That very pride will be a nail in her coffin, IMO. Now, I have a lot of thread reading & "thanking" to do!

I'm totally with ya'. I knew she'd never be scared by cross. She's a sociopath. They don't have a lot of anxiety. I think she enjoyed the sparring.

He is not focusing on small issues. Right out the gate he attacked her travis the evil abuser broke my finger with evidence that the finger was not broken in may, january, april or anyday jodi told us. he put up EVIDENCE that knocked that lie out the park. He pointed out the her diary which held her private thoughts before she had a reason to start fabricating mentioned NO ABUSE or PEDO from travis, he takes the time to point out that during the times when these events had supposedly happened JODI WROTE NOTHING SIGNIFICANT happened..blah blah blah. He knocked down her finger stories by showing the jury all the lies about how she injured that finger...

He Knocked out the PEDO claims by proving that Travis was not home during her walk in and she was at work. Again another major lie used in her defense (He was a PEDO)

He knocked down her baptismal rape story by reading from her journal that she enjoyed all the freaky sex tootsie pops etc that her heart desired. There was no baptismal rape that day. Another big lie in her case. She speaks glowingly about that date..reminicing about all the freaky things they did and how much she liked it and loved travis...

He went over her obsesive need to confront the men she was no longer dating by peeping and confronting the ex when she knew the relationship is over. He unmasked Jodi for the confrontational crazy person she is. and how far she would go to do this. She drove miles to confront the woman and her friend was so scared that he tipped the girl off and gave Jodi the wrong apartment. Crazy Jodi went out of her way to find that woman's apartment. Her Jealousy led her to confront and scare others.

He is showing us now how she conspired in jail in 2012 with matt by attempting to tamper with his interview with the prosecution.."You ****ed up..." She smuggled this coded message out to him so that his testimony wouldn't contradict her lies she told her attorneys..THIS IS BIG. SHOWS THAT SHE WOULD GO TO ANY LENGTHS TO FABRICATE FALSE TESTIMONY..

All of these are big points scored. He's knocking down stories crucial to her defense. exposing them as lies. This is day 1 of his cross and he's dealing with a psycho who is purposely misleading the jury, lying about events, acting as if she can't comprehend any questions asked by manipulating his words. This is no easy task. Do you think he should question her Nurmi style and let her slip under the radar. He's doing his job effectively and anyone with two eyes can see the significance in his cross so far. He's restoring travis' reputation and pointing out obvious and BLATANT lies with evidence. He's showing us who the real jodi is.

Today we left off with her road trip..i think he might introduce evidence of her dying her hair at the nail salon...Its only been 1 day. Give him a break.

Excellent synopsis.

I recently re-watched the 48 Hours episode, after hearing Jodi explain how she came up with the two ninjas, a man and a woman. "Symbolically," they represented her and Travis.

If you listen to what she says those two ninjas did, and then imagine Jodi and Travis as the two people, it sends chills down your spine. On 48 Hours, she mentioned, that Travis was crawling on all fours and screaming "Help me!" IMO, this part -- Travis crawling and screaming-- must have really happened...

I totally agree and it is so horrifying. Poor Travis.
 
  • #934
Yes I agree. I also thought Travis never really loved her. When he was talking on the phone to her on the "sex tape call" to me it sounded like she was just someone to have sex with. He just didn't talk like someone in love. However you could tell she had a major crush on him, and worshiped every bone in his body.

She was crazy in love with him for sure and he had a lust for her. I don't think Jodi knows that lust and love are not the same thing.
 
  • #935
HOney I'm hooooome. Anita Richman is on her way back to Tucson so might not post until the morning as she has a 2 hour drive.

But I'm gonna start posting now on the court observer thread...head on down. I have pages and pages of notes and other things not noted.
 
  • #936
AND objection, may we approach LoL. Juan Martinez has the patience of a saint I say. Several days of this back and forth with the lying b**** would give me a stroke.

Oh, and I have to say.....Detective Flores sits there all patient and benevolent every day in court. He looks like a big ole huggy teddy bear :heart:.

Nurmi says it's a "stunt"...blah, blah, blah. Bless JM's ♥. He's a damn good man!!!

I hope Flores gets to go on a niiiiiiiice, long vacation with his wife when this is over. I'm sure he wonders how he got so lucky to be the one to deal with JA from the get go! The long phone calls, 2 days of interrogation and now what seems like months of her babble.

Not only would I like to see justice for Travis, but these men deserve a win too!!!!!
 
  • #937
Im so sick of the bleeding hearts. This is crazy. The women is clearly playing games and talking heads/people are acting like he should treat her like some elderly woman crossing the street. Her attitude proved that she is not some shaking demure afraid of conflict woman. She is in direct contrast to her battered woman sham by getting testy right back, asserting attitude. You would expect that skaing to start the tears, submission. NOPE! she gave it right back and was sassy. I wonder if a man sat there accused of the same crimes against a woman would people feel he should be easy on him. This world is stuck in the 1800's. She is manipulating even the most logical people with her tactics. Its sad to see. Its like only a select few can see the games she's playing and get "it"

Those talking heads are all completely nuts. I swear. I think the jury loved this cross after three weeks of dribble and lies and pat little answers from a person absolutely desecrating the memory of the man she butchered.
 
  • #938
Yes, the same 2 as everyday but I thought I saw a 3rd sister as well but don't quote me on it since haven't seen the photo's of his family lately, it upsets me too much knowing what they all must be enduring thru all this :heartbeat:

There was a third sister today: Ally, Travis youngest sister.
 
  • #939
Juan woke up the Jury today!

I thought he did a wonderful job.


I don't know if it has been discussed here yet, but the woman who is writing a book on this case. Shanna Hogan, was on Dr. Drew tonight. She said about the messages in the magazines, "This was one of the most powerful moments in court. I've known about this for a couple of years because this came out in some of the earlier hearings. But these messages were written in pencil basically in the margins of a Star [sic] magazine and what testimony showed today [was] that she was trying to attempt to have these jailhouse messages smuggled out of the jail, delivered to her ex-boyfriend....How this relates to the pedophile claim is that this...ex-boyfriend had come into the picture and had given letters that seemed to show evidence that Travis was a pedophile which were later proven to be forgeries." [I got most of that lol]


Another good quote from tonight:


dr bethany marshall [ on Nancy Grace]:

"What we are seeing is a true sociopath. When we talk about the sociopath being glib, superficially charming, cunning, manipulative, not having remorse--this is her. Sociopaths are never tongue tied, and the reason they are not tongue tied is that they have freed themselves from social conventions like, 'I'm feeling ashamed' or embarrassed. "

Oh, and this is my first post. Happy to finally be here.

Hi Molly!! I'm a newbie too glad to see others joining in the posts!
 
  • #940
I think Juan Martinez is doing a fantastic job. On one point today, though, I wish he would have elaborated more upon the potential of the hand injury occurring on June 4th. Such as, "Do you recall Det. Flores telling you that those types of hand injuries commonly occur when the knife slips during a stabbing?"

And, she said "no" when he asked if the hand injury occurred on June 4th; he could have then responded with "how do you know you didn't hurt your hand during the stabbing if you don't remember the stabbing? And didn't you testify that you were bleeding in the rental car afterward?"

But perhaps he is saving this line of questioning for later on.

MOO: We haven't heard the last of the bent finger.
 
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