Jodi Arias Trial Discussion #9 *may contain graphic and adult content*

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  • #621
They are finished until the 29th!!!! - finally I can get stuff done lol

I got home from work 10 mins ago and missed everything. Oh well. catch up later.
 
  • #622
Wait a minute....didn't she finally confess to killing Travis to the cops or did she do that to her atty? I mean, where did we go from the ninjas killing to her admitting it and screaming "abuse"?

I thought the state would bring in witnesses to say Jodi never said she was abused -- something like that.

Maybe he plans on doing that during rebuttal, or attacking each defense witness. You think he was snarky today -- wait until those poor defense witnesses take the stand. I just hope Mr. Prosecutor doesn't PO the jurors and he can keep his cool, or this could end very badly.

MOO

Mel
 
  • #623
  • #624
:waitasec: So ... I am watching the trial but with the sound off ... I guess I "hear" more that way ... :waitasec:

Anyway ... I see that JA took off her NEW glasses now that the Jury has left the courtroom ... just a "prop" for the jury ... Oh I hope they see through her !

What a fake and phoney !

:banghead:
 
  • #625
Defense wants to ask to drop some charges . . .
wants 1 count of Premediated murder

On 3/31/2010 - the lesser included offenses in support of Felony Murder charge . . .
aggravated assault

Premediated charge - not provided enough evidence
Felony Murder - discussion is much more viable - research/reflection of this court because case law sits on the fence - case law is so important

ARS 1305-1102? First degree murder - felony murder
in the course of the events - felony flight therefrom . .. ?

had nothing to do with immediate flight - disregard any discussion to that
it has to do with the furtherance of the offense - rather circular discussion

Rule 20 -
State has presented their case - they have presented nothing as to relates to any other felony - she remained in the home after she murdered TA

She was certainly invited and willing guest of TA @ 12:30 that date - and after 5 that afternoon - it changed after 5 that afternoon - as indicated on the camera.

It is clear - this is either a case of premeditated murder or it is not . . . that is really it. . . these are the same events. . . .what other crime would she be furthering?

Shot then stabbed or stabbed then shot - or another version may be presented . . .

There is another thing the court should take in consideration . . . . Miles, Martinez, and Lacy cases cited.

Arizona Supreme Court on 8/16/02 - State v Harley? -

more than likely asserted by the State 222 that is an Arizona opinion

There are case on both sides - the facilitation, the furtherance, ie: burning a building whether a person is not dead.

Mr. Harley entered the home with the victim to faciliate a crime. . . . kidnapping facilitating the murders -

I think Moore is a similar case

In the moment in time something changes
There was nothing facilitated at all- based upon that it should not stand
 
  • #626
  • #627
Thank you LotusPawprint. I am freaking out. Did the Pro even touch on all the premeditation at all?

Of course..he brought in the gun being stolen.........Jodi coming there and had a knife and a gun which she took with her......

lots of premeditation CE links....
 
  • #628
Wouldn't be surprised if felony murder charge is dismissed. I don't remember any evidence of any other felonies other than the murder. Not sure why they included the alternative charge.
 
  • #629
feed just crashed! :eek:
 
  • #630
I think the only thing the state missed in their CIC is to explore the stolen gun report and detailing more clearly how that fit in the timeline.

I'm not concerned with them resting but I AM concerned with the length of the break and the time that will elapse between hearing the states CIC and when they begin to deliberate.
 
  • #631
well, I think he did good.

He will wait for the defense to put all the other witnesses on and get the real story from them
 
  • #632
I think the State has made their case.

Agreed. No sense "overkilling it" - especially after hearing all of the juror's questions this week!!
 
  • #633
Dunno, there is no real proof that she stole the gun!
 
  • #634
I forgot how awesome Martinez is. My faith is being restored. Freak out subsiding :)

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2
 
  • #635
Long time lurker first time poster here.... Got sucked into this case by a friend.

I think we could play a drinking game everytime the Defense Attorney asks for a mistrial
 
  • #636
What is this on the live feed? Looks like a set up for presser?
 
  • #637
Asking for a dismissal after the state rests is standard procedure by every defense attorney. I think the state put a ton of evidence up. I also do not think a jury of regular folk are going to forget the graphic photos of TA dead in the bathroom, or of the ME photos and testimony. moo
 
  • #638
Can anyone make out the background conversation
 
  • #639
I think the prosecutor needed help.

He has been doing this for many years including putting women on death row.

He knows what he is doing..........he is very smart .........he needs no help whatsoever.

IMO
 
  • #640
"premeditation here can be as long as a week or between the stabbing and shooting" - Prosecutor.
 
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