Jodi Arias Trial Watchers Thread #1

[Moxie Vi]

I believe that quote was "dildo with a heartbeat". :what:
I'm sure this trial will be -unique- for the stenographer.

Makes her sound like the manipulative, abusive one, not him.

 

[Grammy Jean]

duct tape

 

[Hopeful One]

JA looks like she's about to fall asleep.

 

[dizzychick]

the white t shirt and boxer were his " garments" Mormons wear them as a reminder of their faith. Alot of misconceptions are said about their under clothing that is all it is meant for, it is suppose to remind you to stay clean and seperate from the world.

 

[lonetraveler]

I'm sure that I've missed some testimony and evidence along the way but I'm a bit confused at this point. I see no stab holes in the t-shirt but it apparently had blood on it. I've read somewhere that investigators think that he was shot last after all the stab wounds and slit throat. I was thinking that he was shot first so that she could stab and slit his throat while he was unable to fight her off. So, when was he stabbed? If there are no holes in his clothing? I guess maybe he was nude? and the clothes got all the blood on them because they were close by? I guess I'll wait until everything is summarized.

 

[Hopeful One]

the white t shirt and boxer were his " garments" Mormons wear them as a reminder of their faith. Alot of misconceptions are said about their under clothing that is all it is meant for, it is suppose to remind you to stay clean and seperate from the world.

Did they state this just now? (I'm not listening too closely as I'm at work) I don't get it - don't a lot of men wear white t-shirts and boxers? What does that have to do with being Mormon?

(not being snarky, I'm sincerely curious)

 

[HarvestMoon]

the white t shirt and boxer were his " garments" Mormons wear them as a reminder of their faith. Alot of misconceptions are said about their under clothing that is all it is meant for, it is suppose to remind you to stay clean and seperate from the world.

I think the undies are called "magic underpants.":rocker:

 

[Jaykayelle]

Makes her sound like the manipulative, abusive one, not him.

I think they both were, in their own ways.

 

[BrownRice]

Curious about the camera - I wonder why she didn't just take it with her and destroy it later? Why put it thru the laundry.

 

[LotusPawprint]

Not that I've planned or executed a murder before, but I would truly think that planning a murder and actually executing it would be two entirely different things. Even if a murder is planned, I would imagine that there would be a lot more to it than you see in the movies. I'm sure she was shocked by the amount of blood, etc. I think that it would be pretty messy and difficult to clean up, etc. I don't think that she could have anticipated what actually DID happen during the murder.

ITA and yet she is arrogant enough to think she did a good job, so much so that she thinks her everchanging stories "I have no idea what happened", "A couple of strangers did it", and "Oh yes, it was self-defense" will work for her.

She's so delusionally cocky to proclaim -years later- "No jury will ever convict ME!" while trying to manufacture evidence against Travis (the "pedo letters") that despite doing an awful job of cleaning up the crime scene, she's cool as a (nasty) cucumber as she goes on trial for murder.

Unbelievable.

 

[my2sense]

I'm sure that I've missed some testimony and evidence along the way but I'm a bit confused at this point. I see no stab holes in the t-shirt but it apparently had blood on it. I've read somewhere that investigators think that he was shot last after all the stab wounds and slit throat. I was thinking that he was shot first so that she could stab and slit his throat while he was unable to fight her off. So, when was he stabbed? If there are no holes in his clothing? I guess maybe he was nude? and the clothes got all the blood on them because they were close by? I guess I'll wait until everything is summarized.

He was naked in the shower. Maybe she used the discarded clothes to mop up the blood. She was taking pictures and dropped the camera which, according to her, made him mad enough to come after her so she had to defend herself.

 

[Hopeful One]

It's going to be exciting here for a bit, watching her unpack that big huge bag of clothing and bed linens. Yawn...

 

[BrownRice]

Did they state this just now? (I'm not listening too closely as I'm at work) I don't get it - don't a lot of men wear white t-shirts and boxers? What does that have to do with being Mormon?

(not being snarky, I'm sincerely curious)

I believe they are not "normal" underwear - they are made specifically for Mormons. I used to work with a Mormon man and I could always see his tee shirt under his shirt (sometimes it would go above his shirt collar). It seemed thicker than normal tees. Never saw his boxers. :great:

 

[Moxie Vi]

I'm sure that I've missed some testimony and evidence along the way but I'm a bit confused at this point. I see no stab holes in the t-shirt but it apparently had blood on it. I've read somewhere that investigators think that he was shot last after all the stab wounds and slit throat. I was thinking that he was shot first so that she could stab and slit his throat while he was unable to fight her off. So, when was he stabbed? If there are no holes in his clothing? I guess maybe he was nude? and the clothes got all the blood on them because they were close by? I guess I'll wait until everything is summarized.

IIRC the picture of TA in the shower was taken minutes before the attack, so he most like was nude when killed. Perhaps she grabbed his shirt, etc. to clean up blood.

ETA: my2sense beat me to it! Great minds must think alike ;-)

 

[Hopeful One]

Curious about the camera - I wonder why she didn't just take it with her and destroy it later? Why put it thru the laundry.

I wondered the same thing. Why not take it and throw it in a dumpster or something? Apparently she didn't think a lot of this through very well.

 

[wenwe4]

I'm just jumping back on after having my little nap and passing the baton to Steely!

Reviewing photos of exhibits showing camera and sim card.

Exhibits #17 thru 25 being shown to witness...items removed from washing machine item #39 laid out. Item #39 clothingitems in that washing machine. 17 - 25 admitted.

#17 - placard # 39 - towel and socks - towel seems a bit discolored
#18 - other ed of towel discolored w/black or dark teeshirt and (black sweats?)
#19 - mens white underwear(?) and shorts and another teeshirt
package given to witness - appear to be items from the photograph - scissors given t witness

Exhibit #216 admitted - it is item#39 (see above) clothing from washing machine.

Looking @ towel - looks like bleach stains on it. Tee shirt w/bleach spotting on it. White knee length mens underwear (Mormon underroos? - my words not theirs)

Tee shirt - multiple pairs socks - blue, mostly grey w/bleach spots, black, (going thru each and every sock) pair of sweat pants - size Mens Large. White tee shirt - Large

Item #37 - memory card from washing machine (recollection it was blue in color)

Placard item #40 & 41 - dryer - 40 is duct tape found on floor in laundry room

Exhibits #22 close up of duct tape
E#23 sim card
E#24 close up of sim card
E#25

Exhibit #26, 27, 28, 29, 30 - bedding items - photos of items inside dryer and laying outside of the dryer after being pulled out. Exhibits admitted.

#26 - dryer w/contents labled item placard #41
#27 - contents laid out separated
#28 - portion of contents of dryer
#29 - add'l contents of dryer
#30 - something removed from dryer.

Package shown - all items from dryer #41 placard

pillow cases, fitted sheet, flat sheet, bed covering of some sort w/buttons - appear to be brown in color.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

I'm sure that I've missed some testimony and evidence along the way but I'm a bit confused at this point. I see no stab holes in the t-shirt but it apparently had blood on it. I've read somewhere that investigators think that he was shot last after all the stab wounds and slit throat. I was thinking that he was shot first so that she could stab and slit his throat while he was unable to fight her off. So, when was he stabbed? If there are no holes in his clothing? I guess maybe he was nude? and the clothes got all the blood on them because they were close by? I guess I'll wait until everything is summarized.

I think she may have tied Travis up prior to stabbing and slitting his throat. But I think there may be blood transfer that happened when Jodie in her panic to dump all the linen in the laundry got the camera and who knows may be that t shirt in the pile as well?

Thank God that dog could run otherwise he might have gone through thru a wash and rinse cycle too.

 

[norest4thewicked]

ITA and yet she is arrogant enough to think she did a good job, so much so that she thinks her everchanging stories "I have no idea what happened", "A couple of strangers did it", and "Oh yes, it was self-defense" will work for her.

She's so delusionally cocky to proclaim -years later- "No jury will ever convict ME!" while trying to manufacture evidence against Travis (the "pedo letters") that despite doing an awful job of cleaning up the crime scene, she's cool as a (nasty) cucumber as she goes on trial for murder.

Unbelievable.

Narcissism at its best.

 

[dizzychick]

Did they state this just now? (I'm not listening too closely as I'm at work) I don't get it - don't a lot of men wear white t-shirts and boxers? What does that have to do with being Mormon?

(not being snarky, I'm sincerely curious)

no I just saw them and asked my hubby as he passed by and he said yes that is what they look like regular white underwear

 

[BrownRice]

Also camera related - why take pics in the first place? If we are assuming this was all premeditated....

Is it true he did not invite her that night to his home and she came unannounced? I thought I heard that yesterday and was surprised but not sure if I heard correctly.