JOHN ANDREW RAMSEY'S DISAPPOINTING AND INSULTING RESPONSE TO CINA WONG

This statement focuses on racism rather than sexism (the sexism being that John the sexual abuser always gets a pass, and the blame is shifted towards Patsy and Burke). But have you ever noticed that there is far MORE evidence against John Ramsey than against OJ Simpson? Ramsey had MOTIVE to silence JonBenet - plus his older daughter from his first marriage also accused him of sexual abuse.

There's quite a bit of evidence against John Ramsey - including that the ransom note could easily have been composed by him - it's all about HIM; it's a big ego trip to HIMSELF. And if John convinced Patsy that Burke had done it by accident, then obviously John could have dictated it to Patsy so that she would physically hand-write the note.

I think that a kidnapping attempt was made against his older daughter Melinda, and that the ransom note was left on a voicemail rather than on writing paper. I guess that is where John got the idea for a kidnapping?

And even the fact that Patsy almost never went in the basement (she was scared of the basement) - that points to the circumstantial evidence that John would think the basement was a "safe place" (safe from Patsy) to hide the body.

So yes, I am saying that if John was a Black person that he may have been arrested and charged with premeditated murder. Personally, I think that he hired the killer. But it's not just racism - it's probably also John's dubious connections and dealings. You know, law enforcement and district attorneys would be fearful of retaliation.

I am in Canada and CANNOT IMAGE that John Ramsey would not have been arrested and charged in Canada.


Wait a minute, one of JR’s daughters accused him of sexual assault? Beth or Melinda? When was this??
 
Wait a minute, one of JR’s daughters accused him of sexual assault? Beth or Melinda? When was this??
Sorry for the confusion.

Elizabeth accused John of sexual abuse. About six weeks later, she died in the car accident. But there's no reason to believe that the car accident was suspicious. This car accident was reinvestigated during JB's homicide investigation, but just as a matter of routine.

But the prior kidnapping attempt was made against Melinda, and that was a few years prior to the 1996 murder of JB.

Police found an instructional video for stun gun usage in John's possession. I really do believe that in Canada, that John would have been arrested and charged with premeditated murder. The police would have leaned heavily on Patsy to confess. Was Patsy convinced that Burke had done it?
 
Sorry for the confusion.

Elizabeth accused John of sexual abuse. About six weeks later, she died in the car accident. But there's no reason to believe that the car accident was suspicious. This car accident was reinvestigated during JB's homicide investigation, but just as a matter of routine.

But the prior kidnapping attempt was made against Melinda, and that was a few years prior to the 1996 murder of JB.

Police found an instructional video for stun gun usage in John's possession. I really do believe that in Canada, that John would have been arrested and charged with premeditated murder. The police would have leaned heavily on Patsy to confess. Was Patsy convinced that Burke had done it?

Are you serious?? Beth accused him of sex assault? That’s interesting to note considering I believe that JR tried to cover up prior sex abuse with the paintbrush and he was the one who wiped JBR down redressed her.
 
Are you serious?? Beth accused him of sex assault? That’s interesting to note considering I believe that JR tried to cover up prior sex abuse with the paintbrush and he was the one who wiped JBR down redressed her.
Yes that was in the original police investigation. That's why the car accident was reinvestigated because of the sexual abuse claims of Elizabeth. But there's no reason to believe that the car accident was suspicious.
 
Yes that was in the original police investigation. That's why the car accident was reinvestigated because of the sexual abuse claims of Elizabeth. But there's no reason to believe that the car accident was suspicious.

Thanks for that interesting information. That is something I never knew. I knew about the car accident, but not the sexual assault accusations. That adds another layer of suspicion to the Ramsey family.

To me, the whole case is kinda creepy and bizarre. The Ramsey family have so many layers, like an onion. They pretended to be this “happy, perfect family” to everyone on the outside, but were dysfunctional. That house was creepy, too. I can imagine the debauchery that went on there.
 
This statement focuses on racism rather than sexism (the sexism being that John the sexual abuser always gets a pass, and the blame is shifted towards Patsy and Burke). But have you ever noticed that there is far MORE evidence against John Ramsey than against OJ Simpson? Ramsey had MOTIVE to silence JonBenet - plus his older daughter from his first marriage also accused him of sexual abuse.

There's quite a bit of evidence against John Ramsey - including that the ransom note could easily have been composed by him - it's all about HIM; it's a big ego trip to HIMSELF. And if John convinced Patsy that Burke had done it by accident, then obviously John could have dictated it to Patsy so that she would physically hand-write the note.

I think that a kidnapping attempt was made against his older daughter Melinda, and that the ransom note was left on a voicemail rather than on writing paper. I guess that is where John got the idea for a kidnapping?

And even the fact that Patsy almost never went in the basement (she was scared of the basement) - that points to the circumstantial evidence that John would think the basement was a "safe place" (safe from Patsy) to hide the body.

<modsnip: Please do not introduce racial issues into this discussion.>

I am in Canada and CANNOT IMAGE that John Ramsey would not have been arrested and charged in Canada.

I think many Americans expected an arrest also, along with greater pressure put on the parents. jmo
 
please tell me i didn't just read that "there was more evidence against John Ramsey than OJ Simpson"

and i really don't understand the underlying logic to the comment......... OJ was acquitted after very quick deliberation by jury (i didn't agree but whatever)...... so the logic is "there was far more evidence against JR than someone who was acquitted very easily by a jury"

and JR sexually abusing his elder daughter..... plz someone provide some backup of this statement. from the sounds of at least one other poster, it sounds like it may exist.. but we need to see it.
 
please tell me i didn't just read that "there was more evidence against John Ramsey than OJ Simpson"

and i really don't understand the underlying logic to the comment......... OJ was acquitted after very quick deliberation by jury (i didn't agree but whatever)...... so the logic is "there was far more evidence against JR than someone who was acquitted very easily by a jury"

and JR sexually abusing his elder daughter..... plz someone provide some backup of this statement. from the sounds of at least one other poster, it sounds like it may exist.. but we need to see it.


By the way, I think John promotes the false story about the extra marital affair and how that caused the breakup of his first marriage. I think John's first marriage broke up for far more sinister reasons; namely, the abuse of Elizabeth and maybe John's general demeanor.
 
A couple of weeks ago I attempted to have a mature conversation (on Twitter under the name Websleuths) about the evidence in the Ramsey case with JonBenet's older half-brother John Andrew Ramsey.

Via a tagged tweet from Websleuths I invited him to listen to our live stream with Cina Wong and I pointed out how many matches Ms. Wong made between Patsy's writing and the writing of the ransom note.

Cina Wong is a very well respected and professionally recognized handwriting expert who has testified in over 65 court cases.

In response to my tweets John Andrew blocked me, called me a troll, and proceeded to attempt to attack Cina Wong and her credentials in a very immature manner.

John Andrew tweeted and asked if Cina Wong knew Henry Lee. WTH?
It never occurred to me the obvious reason for asking this question. There is only one reason why he would say this. Think about it.

I am posting here the responses to John Andrews's accusations about Cina Wong. If you have any trouble following what is going on please post your questions.

These same screenshots will be tweeted out by Websleuths and we will make John Andrew aware of these answers if he is curious to know the truth.

JAR's behavior is so disappointing. He is acting like a spoiled rich kid frat boy.

Please take a look at the tweets and responses.

Tricia
PS. I did make a crack about Lin Wood when JAR tweeted he would record my stream and send it to "Lin". "GOOD" I replied then suggested that perhaps the intruder also stole the election. That is my part but hey, using Lin Wood as a threat opens one's self up to these types of answers.

Safe to say this was an inside job on JBR..especially with a ransom not $118.000 bonus father received....why was nobody charged..well $$ I sa
A couple of weeks ago I attempted to have a mature conversation (on Twitter under the name Websleuths) about the evidence in the Ramsey case with JonBenet's older half-brother John Andrew Ramsey.

Via a tagged tweet from Websleuths I invited him to listen to our live stream with Cina Wong and I pointed out how many matches Ms. Wong made between Patsy's writing and the writing of the ransom note.

Cina Wong is a very well respected and professionally recognized handwriting expert who has testified in over 65 court cases.

In response to my tweets John Andrew blocked me, called me a troll, and proceeded to attempt to attack Cina Wong and her credentials in a very immature manner.

John Andrew tweeted and asked if Cina Wong knew Henry Lee. WTH?
It never occurred to me the obvious reason for asking this question. There is only one reason why he would say this. Think about it.

I am posting here the responses to John Andrews's accusations about Cina Wong. If you have any trouble following what is going on please post your questions.

These same screenshots will be tweeted out by Websleuths and we will make John Andrew aware of these answers if he is curious to know the truth.

JAR's behavior is so disappointing. He is acting like a spoiled rich kid frat boy.

Please take a look at the tweets and responses.

Tricia
PS. I did make a crack about Lin Wood when JAR tweeted he would record my stream and send it to "Lin". "GOOD" I replied then suggested that perhaps the intruder also stole the election. That is my part but hey, using Lin Wood as a threat opens one's self up to these types of answers.
Safe to say this was an inside job on JBR..especially with a ransom not $118.000 bonus father received....why was nobody charged..well $$$$ I say......you agree?
 
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Hello, I think you need to look at motive. And also to remember that this was a premeditated crime. (Also the Burke and Patsy theories are not medically sound. We know that JB was already dead when she received the head injury, which is why there was almost zero internal bleeding.)

So given that this was a premeditated crime, as a woman, I do not want to give John or John Andrew (at least one is a sexual abuser) a free pass, and blame Patsy or Burke. It's also worth nothing that if Patsy or Burke had accidentally killed JB (which is not medically sound), the family could have claimed that the little girl fell and hit her head.

It's important to remember that John and John Andrew WANT us to believe that Patsy and Burke committed the crime, which is has been not possible due to medical evidence.

So, since it was a premeditated crime, we must look at motive:

1) To silence JB so that she could not report PRIOR sexual abuse, including what may have occurred on December 23, 1996. (And fibers from John Andrew's EA device were found in JB's bed; not sure if they were also found in Burke's bed.) The police were called on December 23, 1996. However, the person who opened the door said that the police had been called by mistake.

JB was intelligent, articulate, and outspoken. Had she reported prior sexual abuse by John or John Andrew, she would be taken very seriously. Had Burke reported prior sexual abuse by John or John Andrew, he would not be taken as seriously. (I believe Burke was autistic.)

Therefore the MOTIVE to silence JB so that she could not report PRIOR sexual abuse is stronger than any MOTIVE to silence Burke.

2) To frame Patsy, or at least to discredit her. Obviously a judge or jury would not convict Patsy, but she was discredited and disgraced. People were willing to blame Patsy, claim that she killed JB by accident, and yet give John or John Andrew (at least one of whom is a sexual abuser) a free pass. Talk about sexism and bias.

There was an obvious MOTIVE to frame Patsy: ransom note included some of her expressions and choice of words. Also Patsy's notepad and writing pen were used. Patsy's paintbrush was actually used to strangle JB. (JB died from strangulation, and was already dead when she received the head injury). Now, if Patsy herself had strangled JB (and we know that she did not do this), she would have the intelligence to hide or throw out the paintbrush. (And would Patsy write a note to incriminate herself? She was an intelligent woman.)

Patsy's items that were used: paintbrush, notepad, writing pen. Plus the ransom note cast suspicion on Patsy.

What motive would John Andrew have to frame or at least cast suspicion on Patsy? He would want his father to reunite with his mother, NOT because he cared if his parents got back together, BUT due to John's WEALTH.

Therefore, John Andrew would have the above two motives. Remember that John Andrew's suitcase was found near JB's body. The suitcase contained a semen-encrusted blanket (semen belonged to John Andrew), a children's book called Dr. Seuss, and some other items. So, why was the suitcase near JB's body? Because someone (likely John the father) had every intention of disposing of JB's body, but also of disposing of the incriminating suitcase.

As previously mentioned, fibers from John Andrew's EA device were found on JB's bed.

Lastly, there has been some suspicion that JB told Melinda (her older half-sister) about the sexual abuse. However, I like to think that Melinda would have done the right thing, and reported this to police.

I believe that John Andrew also had a key to the house.

You need to also ask why John the father was not framed for the crime - only Patsy the mother!

And let's use common sense: a routine "sexual predator" would be more interested in framing the father than the mother!

I do not agree with you at all regarding Patsy being framed.....please go read my posts on the thread "if you look at it logically it's very clear who did it" to see where I'm coming from.
 
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Hello, I think you need to look at motive. And also to remember that this was a premeditated crime. (Also the Burke and Patsy theories are not medically sound. We know that JB was already dead when she received the head injury, which is why there was almost zero internal bleeding.)

So given that this was a premeditated crime, as a woman, I do not want to give John or John Andrew (at least one is a sexual abuser) a free pass, and blame Patsy or Burke. It's also worth nothing that if Patsy or Burke had accidentally killed JB (which is not medically sound), the family could have claimed that the little girl fell and hit her head.

It's important to remember that John and John Andrew WANT us to believe that Patsy and Burke committed the crime, which is has been not possible due to medical evidence.

So, since it was a premeditated crime, we must look at motive:

1) To silence JB so that she could not report PRIOR sexual abuse, including what may have occurred on December 23, 1996. (And fibers from John Andrew's EA device were found in JB's bed; not sure if they were also found in Burke's bed.) The police were called on December 23, 1996. However, the person who opened the door said that the police had been called by mistake.

JB was intelligent, articulate, and outspoken. Had she reported prior sexual abuse by John or John Andrew, she would be taken very seriously. Had Burke reported prior sexual abuse by John or John Andrew, he would not be taken as seriously. (I believe Burke was autistic.)

Therefore the MOTIVE to silence JB so that she could not report PRIOR sexual abuse is stronger than any MOTIVE to silence Burke.

2) To frame Patsy, or at least to discredit her. Obviously a judge or jury would not convict Patsy, but she was discredited and disgraced. People were willing to blame Patsy, claim that she killed JB by accident, and yet give John or John Andrew (at least one of whom is a sexual abuser) a free pass. Talk about sexism and bias.

There was an obvious MOTIVE to frame Patsy: ransom note included some of her expressions and choice of words. Also Patsy's notepad and writing pen were used. Patsy's paintbrush was actually used to strangle JB. (JB died from strangulation, and was already dead when she received the head injury). Now, if Patsy herself had strangled JB (and we know that she did not do this), she would have the intelligence to hide or throw out the paintbrush. (And would Patsy write a note to incriminate herself? She was an intelligent woman.)

Patsy's items that were used: paintbrush, notepad, writing pen. Plus the ransom note cast suspicion on Patsy.

What motive would John Andrew have to frame or at least cast suspicion on Patsy? He would want his father to reunite with his mother, NOT because he cared if his parents got back together, BUT due to John's WEALTH.

Therefore, John Andrew would have the above two motives. Remember that John Andrew's suitcase was found near JB's body. The suitcase contained a semen-encrusted blanket (semen belonged to John Andrew), a children's book called Dr. Seuss, and some other items. So, why was the suitcase near JB's body? Because someone (likely John the father) had every intention of disposing of JB's body, but also of disposing of the incriminating suitcase.

As previously mentioned, fibers from John Andrew's EA device were found on JB's bed.

Lastly, there has been some suspicion that JB told Melinda (her older half-sister) about the sexual abuse. However, I like to think that Melinda would have done the right thing, and reported this to police.

I believe that John Andrew also had a key to the house.

You need to also ask why John the father was not framed for the crime - only Patsy the mother!

And let's use common sense: a routine "sexual predator" would be more interested in framing the father than the mother!

I have to agree it looks to me both patsy and Burke have been framed and it more likely that it was John Andrew or John or both together protecting each other at first I thought it may have been Burke and pasty and John covered for him becos he lost his temper when she took a bit of his food but after reading wat u have said and other things this looks more likely
 
Hello, I think you need to look at motive. And also to remember that this was a premeditated crime. (Also the Burke and Patsy theories are not medically sound. We know that JB was already dead when she received the head injury, which is why there was almost zero internal bleeding.)

So given that this was a premeditated crime, as a woman, I do not want to give John or John Andrew (at least one is a sexual abuser) a free pass, and blame Patsy or Burke. It's also worth nothing that if Patsy or Burke had accidentally killed JB (which is not medically sound), the family could have claimed that the little girl fell and hit her head.

It's important to remember that John and John Andrew WANT us to believe that Patsy and Burke committed the crime, which is has been not possible due to medical evidence.

So, since it was a premeditated crime, we must look at motive:

1) To silence JB so that she could not report PRIOR sexual abuse, including what may have occurred on December 23, 1996. (And fibers from John Andrew's EA device were found in JB's bed; not sure if they were also found in Burke's bed.) The police were called on December 23, 1996. However, the person who opened the door said that the police had been called by mistake.

JB was intelligent, articulate, and outspoken. Had she reported prior sexual abuse by John or John Andrew, she would be taken very seriously. Had Burke reported prior sexual abuse by John or John Andrew, he would not be taken as seriously. (I believe Burke was autistic.)

Therefore the MOTIVE to silence JB so that she could not report PRIOR sexual abuse is stronger than any MOTIVE to silence Burke.

2) To frame Patsy, or at least to discredit her. Obviously a judge or jury would not convict Patsy, but she was discredited and disgraced. People were willing to blame Patsy, claim that she killed JB by accident, and yet give John or John Andrew (at least one of whom is a sexual abuser) a free pass. Talk about sexism and bias.

There was an obvious MOTIVE to frame Patsy: ransom note included some of her expressions and choice of words. Also Patsy's notepad and writing pen were used. Patsy's paintbrush was actually used to strangle JB. (JB died from strangulation, and was already dead when she received the head injury). Now, if Patsy herself had strangled JB (and we know that she did not do this), she would have the intelligence to hide or throw out the paintbrush. (And would Patsy write a note to incriminate herself? She was an intelligent woman.)

Patsy's items that were used: paintbrush, notepad, writing pen. Plus the ransom note cast suspicion on Patsy.

What motive would John Andrew have to frame or at least cast suspicion on Patsy? He would want his father to reunite with his mother, NOT because he cared if his parents got back together, BUT due to John's WEALTH.

Therefore, John Andrew would have the above two motives. Remember that John Andrew's suitcase was found near JB's body. The suitcase contained a semen-encrusted blanket (semen belonged to John Andrew), a children's book called Dr. Seuss, and some other items. So, why was the suitcase near JB's body? Because someone (likely John the father) had every intention of disposing of JB's body, but also of disposing of the incriminating suitcase.

As previously mentioned, fibers from John Andrew's EA device were found on JB's bed.

Lastly, there has been some suspicion that JB told Melinda (her older half-sister) about the sexual abuse. However, I like to think that Melinda would have

PremeditatedCrime,
This follow up post is for anyone who reads the above and thinks it's factually correct.
[Mod snip removed quoted deleted post]
We know that JB was already dead when she received the head injury, which is why there was almost zero internal bleeding.)
JonBenet Ramsey, Autopsy Report, excerpt
NAME: RAMSEY, JONBENET

DOB: 08/06/90
AGE: 6Y
SEX: F
PATH MD: MEYER
TYPE: COR
AUTOPSY NO: 96A-155
DEATH D/T: 12/26/96 @1323
AUTOPSY D/T: 12/27/96 @ 0815
ID NO; 137712
COR/MEDREC# 1714-96-A

FINAL DIAGNOSIS:
I. Ligature strangulation
A. Circumferential ligature with associated ligature furrow of neck
B. Abrasions and petechial hemorrhages, neck
C. Petechial hemorrhages, conjunctival surfaces of eyes and skin of face

II. Craniocerebral injuries
A. Scalp contusion
B. Linear, comminuted fracture of right side of skull
C. Linear pattern of contusions of right cerebral hemisphere
D. Subarachnoid and subdural hemorrhage
E. Small contusions, tips of temporal lobes

III. Abrasion of right cheek

IV. Abrasion/contusion, posterior right shoulder

V. Abrasions of left lower back and posterior left lower leg

VI. Abrasion and vascular congestion of vaginal mucosa

VII. Ligature of right wrist

Toxicologic Studies
blood ethanol – none detected
blood drug screen – no drugs detected

CLINICOPATHLOGIC CORRELATION: Cause of death of this six year old female is asphyxia by strangulation associated with craniocerebral trauma.

John E. Meyer M.D.
Pathologist
jn/12/27/96
So from what Meyer states in his autopsy conclusion: the cause of death was dual i.e. head trauma and ligature strangulation.

II. D. Subarachnoid and subdural hemorrhage which is bleeding in the brain!

VI. Abrasion and vascular congestion of vaginal mucosa this is assumed to be the result of sexual assault.

Phrased by Coroner Meyer as Digital Penetration and Sexual Contact
12-29-1996 Search Warrant for 755 15th Street, Excerpt

Detective Arndt told Your Affiant that she witnessed the autopsy of JonBenet Ramsey which was conducted by Dr. John Meyer on December 27, 1996. Detective Arndt told Your Affiant that she observed Dr. Meyer examine the vaginal area of the victim and heard him state that the victim had received an injury constant with digital penetration of her vagina. Detective Arndt told Your Affiant that Dr. Meyer told her that it was his opinion that the victim had been subjected to sexual contact. For further details on the autopsy see the attached document entitled Addendum To Search Warrant.

All three remaining Ramsey's are all linked directly to the wine-cellar crime-scene by forensic evidence, so remain under the umbrella of suspicion, i.e. one family member framing another is unlikely given the forensic evidence that was removed, e.g. size-6 underwear, pink pajama bottoms, etc.

JonBenet was denied medical attention precisely so she could not name her abuser, which is not the same as the motive for her sexual assault, the former leading directly to her death.

Foreign Faction by James Kolar, Excerpt
Following the meeting, Dr. Meyer returned to the morgue with Dr. Andy Sirontak, Chief of Denver Children’s Hospital Child Protection Team, so that a second opinion could be rendered on the injuries observed to the vaginal area of JonBenét. He would observe the same injuries that Dr. Meyer had noted during the autopsy protocol and concurred that a foreign object had been inserted into the opening of JonBenét’s vaginal orifice and was responsible for the acute injury witnessed at the 7:00 o’clock position.

Further inspection revealed that the hymen was shriveled and retracted, a sign that JonBenét had been subjected to some type of sexual contact prior to the date of her death.

Dr. Sirontak could not provide an opinion as to how old those injuries were or how many times JonBenét may have been assaulted and would defer to the expert opinions of other medical examiners.

On the basis of Meyer's second opinion agreeing that there was signs of chronic abuse this suggests one person or more had been routinely abusing JonBenet.

So it does not rule out any of the male Ramsey family members from being historically involved!

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It was stated upthread that JR had sexually abused his daughter Melinda. I last heard this as a rumor. Is it now a credible allegation or fact? Does anyone have a source? If so, please post it.

Also, just to keep the house facts straight, there wasn't a walk-in freezer in the basement. There was a walk-in fridge in the kitchen. The freezer in the basement was a disused floor model located at the back of the boiler room. As it was unplugged and near the boiler, it would not have kept JBR's body cooled had it been placed inside.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bc/01/d2/bc01d2f5af00795a75db4694cde68a36.jpg
 
It was stated upthread that JR had sexually abused his daughter Melinda. I last heard this as a rumor. Is it now a credible allegation or fact? Does anyone have a source? If so, please post it.

Also, just to keep the house facts straight, there wasn't a walk-in freezer in the basement. There was a walk-in fridge in the kitchen. The freezer in the basement was a disused floor model located at the back of the boiler room. As it was unplugged and near the boiler, it would not have kept JBR's body cooled had it been placed inside.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bc/01/d2/bc01d2f5af00795a75db4694cde68a36.jpg

Meara,
It was stated upthread that JR had sexually abused his daughter Melinda. I last heard this as a rumor. Is it now a credible allegation or fact? Does anyone have a source?
It's just speculation, as is a PDI with PR abusing JonBenet.

If the allegation of SA wrt JR was factual, nearly every JonBenet documentary would want you to know this as they outline their JDI theories.

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Meara,

It's just speculation, as is a PDI with PR abusing JonBenet.

If the allegation of SA wrt JR was factual, nearly every JonBenet documentary would want you to know this as they outline their JDI theories.

.

Thanks. What I assumed. But I did wonder whether there was anything to support (not prove) allegations made in online discussion, maybe something I missed while away. So, just rumor, then.
 
Wait a minute, one of JR’s daughters accused him of sexual assault? Beth or Melinda? When was this??
I always found it to be very telling that within minutes of "finding" his daughters body, JR hired THREE attorneys. One each for himself and Patsy, and one for his ex-wife. Now what incriminating information could his ex-wife have known about JR that in his mind required a separate attorney for a women that was no longer in his life?
He also was on the phone and trying to book a flight out of Boulder within an hour of her body being discovered. Who does that?
The War and Peace of ransom notes was written to scare PR into not phoning police right away, imo. JR needed time and an excuse to leave the house and remove JB's body. There was a suitcase under the basement window, ready to go. I think he was planning on telling PR that he was leaving with the suitcase to pay the ransom money, all the while placing JB's body in the suitcase to carry her out of the house unseen.
But PR did call the police right away. Why would she do that if she was involved in her daughters death or cover up of the crime?
Why didn't she do as her husband told her to?
I think she may have been frightened of JR at that moment. She may have felt something wasn't right with him. Jmo.
It sickens me to my soul that he has never been held accountable for JB.
He hides behind religion after throwing his wife, son, and every friend he ever had under the bus.
A vile, diabolical hypocrite.
All of the above are my opinions only after studying this case for years.
 

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