John & Beth Dating

[Ames]

I Know !! How could a mother of a murdered girl date anyone not absolved of any minute suspicion ...... its beyond comprehension!!

True, she HAS to know that he is still under an "umbrella of suspicion". Unless she has been under a rock, for the past ten years. I know that they were dating, but I don't think that it was her that he married...according to a post on FFJ.

 

[azwriter]

I Know !! How could a mother of a murdered girl date anyone not absolved of any minute suspicion ...... its beyond comprehension!!

Wow, was Natalee murdered? Officials found the body? And released this information? I thought Natalee was listed as missing, not dead.
JMO

 

[coloradokares]

True, she HAS to know that he is still under an "umbrella of suspicion". Unless she has been under a rock, for the past ten years. I know that they were dating, but I don't think that it was her that he married...according to a post on FFJ.[/quote


I hope not, she has suffered enough. She does not need to take on that.

 

[Ames]

Wow, was Natalee murdered? Officials found the body? And released this information? I thought Natalee was listed as missing, not dead.
JMO

LOL...as far as I know, nobody has found a body. But, after two years....and she hasn't surfaced...plus the fact that after she disappeared, her bags were found packed in her hotel room...getting ready to come back to the states.....my guess is, she is dead.

 

[Veronica10]

I have ALWAYS thought this. I have said this before...when I first started posting here, but nobody said anything about my post, so I guess that they disagreed. I think that they look like TWINS!!! Poor, poor Bill O'Reilly. And from what I have heard, they act the same too.

Twins, you're right! The only good thing I can say for Bill O'Reilley is he seems to have it on the ball when it comes to JonBenet. I remember him commenting on the JMK episode and saying JMK was full of it because the parents obviously had something to do with it. He was very pro-JonBenet and fed up with the run-around.

Back to the subject at hand....Beth Twitty and John Ramsey -

Methinks Beth needs to do some research on Johnnie-Boy.

 

[WolfmarsGirl]

I think this is a good thing. I never thought John was guilty of murdering or molesting anyone. I also do not believe he is guilty of assisting with the cover up.

That is not to say I think he is a stand up guy, or worth this woman's time or effort.

I think he figured out what happened and kept quiet about his suspicions. I don't even know if he talked to Patsy about what he was thinking.

Now that the true perp is dead, he can come out and play Mark Klaas or John Walsh, or whoever he wants to play. He can be honest and show himself to be a grieving parent, because that is what he is, arrogance aside.

This is a good thing because maybe he will confide in Beth Twitty and she will reveal her information after his death (which will certainly be sooner that hers.)

Maybe I am just an optomist, lol.

 

[Solace]

Twins, you're right! The only good thing I can say for Bill O'Reilley is he seems to have it on the ball when it comes to JonBenet. I remember him commenting on the JMK episode and saying JMK was full of it because the parents obviously had something to do with it. He was very pro-JonBenet and fed up with the run-around.

Back to the subject at hand....Beth Twitty and John Ramsey -

Methinks Beth needs to do some research on Johnnie-Boy.[/quote]

Hi Veronica. I agree.

 

[Toltec]

I can just hear John saying..."Beth is my favorite name...I had a daughter named Beth and she was killed in a car accident. I named my plane Beth...yada yada yada".

I don't believe for one second that John started seeing women AFTER Patsy's death. The lizard lips was fooling around the entire time....a serial cheater.

 

[coloradokares]

Wow, was Natalee murdered? Officials found the body? And released this information? I thought Natalee was listed as missing, not dead.
JMO

I think by now even her mom and Dad are suspicious of foul play and that Natalee is not going to be found alive. Sorry I think she did not just wander off on the beach. CK

 

[Solace]

I think by now even her mom and Dad are suspicious of foul play and that Natalee is not going to be found alive. Sorry I think she did not just wander off on the beach. CK

I agree Colorado.

 

[Dru]

...but I find the idea of JR and Beth Twitty to be rather disturbing.

Maybe it's just my own dislike of the man.

I also find the similarities (though perhaps slight) between these two pictures rather disturbing:

http://www.answers.com/topic/natalee-holloway-yearbook-photo-jpg

http://www.imageblast.com/ibpages/det40.htm

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

I'm not sure where to put this question so I decided to stick it here. Has the sudden fatal car crash of JR 1st daughter Beth Ramsey been discussed here? I've done several searches, and can't seem to find any thread discussion on her spacifically. Was she alone? Was she the only one killed? Where was she going and what was she doing? Has her death been reviewed after the death of JB? Sorry if this has been rehashed, but I can seem to find much mention of her other than she died in a car accident in 92. Pretty vague information.

 

[Ames]

I'm not sure where to put this question so I decided to stick it here. Has the sudden fatal car crash of JR 1st daughter Beth Ramsey been discussed here? I've done several searches, and can't seem to find any thread discussion on her spacifically. Was she alone? Was she the only one killed? Where was she going and what was she doing? Has her death been reviewed after the death of JB? Sorry if this has been rehashed, but I can seem to find much mention of her other than she died in a car accident in 92. Pretty vague information.

good questions. I would like to know the answers to them too.

 

[Solace]

good questions. I would like to know the answers to them too.

She was with her boyfriend, but I do not know if he was killed also.

 

[Ames]

She was with her boyfriend, but I do not know if he was killed also.

Thanks Solace...

 

[RiverRat]

If alive and found - can you imagine Natalee's reaction if this rumor is true?! Out of all of the MEN in this world?! Her very own daughter could have been similar to what JonBenet would have looked like has she been allowed to live.

Now, I am wandering just how far away the stomping rounds of John Mark Karr are in Alabama that Beth is!

 

[Solace]

That's it? Seems there should have been an all out investigation done on this, especially since so many people believe the Ramsey's killed JBR. I find that incredibly odd. Was it hit & run?, lost control of the car? Drunk driving? This has aways bothered me. I know it happens, I actually know a family that lost 2 children 3 years a part from vehicle accidents, but both accidents where clearly innocent, (Deer, icy road conditions)

BUT when you have a MURDERED daughter and a fatal accident daughter...something is not right.

I seem to remember being a head on collision.

 

[Camper]

Now WHY couldn't he have been involved in a speakers group on child tragedy, with Patsy?? He must be doing this to make himself look innocent in Beth's eyes. Afterall, she wouldn't want to be with a man, that played a part in his six year old's murder, would she? IMO IMO

Gone today, and read the article again. It references their
involvement with the 'Nashville Speakers Bureau'.

Wondering IF IF JR invited other speakers to Charlevoix as
well, sort of a group thing???

The Enquirer issue the mailman never brought to me last week, I
bought today - the May 7th issue.

Interesting item in it.Page 24, Patsy's gravesite
finally has a headstone. The stone says, "Patricia Paugh Ramsey, Patsy
Grace, Love and Faithfulness, Through All."

The grave went unmarked until April 2007.

Hmmm.

.

 

[JMO8778]

Her death was investigated,and found to be an unfortunate accident.She and her fiance slid into a truck in the rain,getting on a hwy.
Her past was also checked for abuse,and none was found.

 

[DeeDee249]

This may be JR's most brillaint move yet. Whatever you think of Beth Twitty, she iS most certainly a victim. From the moment that 911 call was places Dec.26, 1996, the R's portrayed themselves as victims. This is almost as good as calling in the "victims' advocates" that day.
BTW, Beth Twitty and her second husband, Natalee's stepfather, separated shortly after this tragedy occurred. It believe I read that it was related to the case, in the sense that Beth Twitty threw her life into finding out what happened to her daughter. Kind of heartless of him, if that's the case. I mean, who wouldn't do the same thing she did?