Jonah Shacknai Wants Investigation Reviewed

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If a person has a self-serving reason for doing something publicly, should they be applauded for it? IMO no.

I have read that not only Dina but Jonah also has questioned how Max died. Both have implicated Rebecca in his death. Dina has said that she believes that Max was suffocated, so who does she believe did that? Well there was one person in that house at that time that she has a major grudge against so I would suspect she means Rebecca. Jonah had been asking people at the funeral/memorial if Rebecca could have done this. So either Jonah believes that Rebecca played a bigger role in Max's death or he wants others to think she did. And yet I see posts concerning Rebecca's family placing blame on Max's family with no regard to what else has been said from the other side.

Both families do not completely accept the rulings/findings of the ME and LE in either case. Both families have the right to have a complete investigation done in the matter of their loved ones. Neither families have the right to completely overlook that a terrible loss was dealt to the other side.

MOO

BBM... where I would place my bets

 

[Morag]

(SNIP)... Jonah had been asking people at the funeral/memorial if Rebecca could have done this. ..(SNIP)

I don't have time to produce the links immediately, but at Max's memorial, he was asking 'why would Rebecca want to hurt Max?' which sounds like a response to 'someone' saying that they thought Rebecca was responsible.
At Rebecca's funeral, he was said to be asking, 'do you know anyone who would want to hurt Rebecca?', which might reflect his own quandary about what could have happened. Both seem like reasonable questions, assuming he was not being disingenuous.
I will try to get the links at some point.

 

[CDS22]

If a person has a self-serving reason for doing something publicly, should they be applauded for it? IMO no.

I have read that not only Dina but Jonah also has questioned how Max died. Both have implicated Rebecca in his death. Dina has said that she believes that Max was suffocated, so who does she believe did that? Well there was one person in that house at that time that she has a major grudge against so I would suspect she means Rebecca. Jonah had been asking people at the funeral/memorial if Rebecca could have done this. So either Jonah believes that Rebecca played a bigger role in Max's death or he wants others to think she did. And yet I see posts concerning Rebecca's family placing blame on Max's family with no regard to what else has been said from the other side.

Both families do not completely accept the rulings/findings of the ME and LE in either case. Both families have the right to have a complete investigation done in the matter of their loved ones. Neither families have the right to completely overlook that a terrible loss was dealt to the other side.

MOO

Where did Dina say that she thought Max had been suffocated? She hasn't made a public statement since his injury, except for the joint statement with Jonah after the child's death.

 

[TorisMom003]

Where did Dina say that she thought Max had been suffocated? She hasn't made a public statement since his injury, except for the joint statement with Jonah after the child's death.

Here is the post that I am referring to. This was posted a while back.

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[CDS22]

Here is the post that I am referring to. This was posted a while back.

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CA - Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #9

Wow. Thanks. I read the threads prior to joining, but forgot about that one.

 

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sbm

YES, she does have a team working on what happened to Maxie.

I could have missed it, but why do Dina and her family think this was not an accident?

 

[MyBelle]

Yes..I believe it was a calculated, concerted effort by his very expensive PR firm to sway public perception. It has not worked, IMO. Epic fail.

Really? How so? I thought the Nightline story was an excellent.

JMO

 

[TorisMom003]

I could have missed it, but why do Dina and her family think this was not an accident?

Dina, at least, believes that Max was smothered before being tossed over the railing. Now, as to why she believes that, I have no idea. Perhaps she hated Rebecca to the point that she would blame her no matter what the evidence showed. Perhaps someone else has put this thought into her head and she can't accept an accident so she clings to this instead. Again, no idea why she feels the way she does, only she knows the answer to that.

 

[stilettos]

Really? How so? I thought the Nightline story was an excellent.

JMO

:seeya:MyBelle. We disagree.

 

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Dina, at least, believes that Max was smothered before being tossed over the railing. Now, as to why she believes that, I have no idea. Perhaps she hated Rebecca to the point that she would blame her no matter what the evidence showed. Perhaps someone else has put this thought into her head and she can't accept an accident so she clings to this instead. Again, no idea why she feels the way she does, only she knows the answer to that.

Thank you, I'm not really sure what to think of that absent some eyewitness account supporting or forensics or past history. Without any of that it brings me back to the strange dynamics between Dina and Jonah. CHalos said that Jonah had the odd (and I think disturbing) habit of investigating his ex's boyfriends and DS investigating Rebecca.

Jonah has an interesting past of having his ex wives/girlfriends boyfriends followed, investigated, photographed etc...

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And, also Dina investigating Rebecca. Plus, with the domestic abuse that went on in their household, which has an effect on children, I'm just getting the feeling that Rebecca got caught up in the weird dynamic between these two and that Max's death WAS really just caused by an accident.

I see no reason an autopsy couldn't easily show if there was strangling or suffocation? So I'm not sure what is being investigated? I do find it odd that that is the claim and Rebecca was strangled/suffocated.

BTW, I think SDSD did a really poor job on the animation. I'm not convinced that exactly what happened. I'm also not convinced there was no one else there but Rebecca and her sister, but oh well.

 

[TorisMom003]

BTW, I think SDSD did a really poor job on the animation. I'm not convinced that exactly what happened. I'm also not convinced there was no one else there but Rebecca and her sister, but oh well.

Snipped by me.

I completely agree with you about the posibilty of others being in the house at the time of Max's accident. Especially in light of the fact that we now know that LE did not actually come clean about all of the various people involved. After the search warrents were released we find out that Dina's sister was in town and that Rebecca picked her up from the airport. Then we find out that one of Jonah's friends was also in town and that Adam, Rebecca and Jonah took this friend to the airport before they went to dinner the night "before" Rebecca died. How many other people were in town that we don't know about? How many other people were left out of the findings for whatever reason? Did any of those people have solid alibis during Rebecca's time of death?

Again, more questions than answers in this case.

MOO

 

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Snipped by me.

I completely agree with you about the posibilty of others being in the house at the time of Max's accident. Especially in light of the fact that we now know that LE did not actually come clean about all of the various people involved. After the search warrents were released we find out that Dina's sister was in town and that Rebecca picked her up from the airport. Then we find out that one of Jonah's friends was also in town and that Adam, Rebecca and Jonah took this friend to the airport before they went to dinner the night "before" Rebecca died. How many other people were in town that we don't know about? How many other people were left out of the findings for whatever reason? Did any of those people have solid alibis during Rebecca's time of death?

Again, more questions than answers in this case.

MOO

Yes, exactly. We know Jonah's teenage daughter was there Monday morning. We don't know when she left or how things were going when she was there. I have not heard that Kimberly had a problem with Rebecca being around the kids or if she liked/disliked her. She obviously had contact with her since they are all in the Bar Mitzvah pics together.

We heard earlier that Dina has a boyfriend because of posts by his teenage daughter. Where was the boyfriend during all of this?

What was Adam doing from 8 pm until he awoke at 6:45 am? He could have been watching tv then went to bed, but he really has no alibi and we've heard nadda about any of that. Plus, he did NOT pass the lie detector test. I'm curiosu to k now how often he has stayed int he mansion in the past and if he has any friends or acquaintences in the area.

We were not told who stayed in the other guest bedroom. It would seem odd to me that Rebecca's 13 year old sister would be put there to stay. I would not allow that, they'd have to stay closer to me and in the main house.

What the heck happened to the people who were supposedly staying in the caretakers quarters or whatever is over the garage?

I still think there were service people around and were possibly undocumented. Not that they did anything but that would be relevant to a death investigation.

I'd really like to know what the chatter was after Max's accident.

We learned a lot from the search warrants, but it would be great to see the police reports and interviews.

 

[SunnieRN]

And who's womens clothing was in the second guest bedroom?

 

[Rhyme & Reason]

Maybe he is also wanting the case to be reviewed trying to appease Dina.

I think she has just as much doubt about how her son died as the Z family does about Rebecca.

IMO

Above bbm

I totally agree and I truly hope she can find some answers. How utterly devastating.

 

[Rhyme & Reason]

Where did Dina say that she thought Max had been suffocated? She hasn't made a public statement since his injury, except for the joint statement with Jonah after the child's death.

WS member chasing.halos is a verified insider. She knows DS.

 

[CDS22]

WS member chasing.halos is a verified insider. She knows DS.

I wasn't questioning chasing.halo's insider status. I was questioning to what the other poster was referring. In other words, did that poster have a quote.

 

[jjenny]

I wasn't questioning chasing.halo's insider status. I was questioning to what the other poster was referring. In other words, did that poster have a quote.

If the poster has been verified as having inside information they don't need a quote. That's why the poster is a verified insider.

 

[CDS22]

If the poster has been verified as having inside information they don't need a quote. That's why the poster is a verified insider.

It wasn't chasing.halo that I posed the question to. Someone else made the statement and didn't refer it back to chasing.halo's quote, so I wondered if Dina had made a public statement.

 

[MyBelle]

Dina, at least, believes that Max was smothered before being tossed over the railing. Now, as to why she believes that, I have no idea. Perhaps she hated Rebecca to the point that she would blame her no matter what the evidence showed. Perhaps someone else has put this thought into her head and she can't accept an accident so she clings to this instead. Again, no idea why she feels the way she does, only she knows the answer to that.

BBM. The evidence does show that the child died due to lack of oxygenated blood circulation. I'm not going to second-guess a Mother or her instinct as to the cause of death of her beloved son.

JMO

 

[steff13]

People often want to cast blame when someone close to them dies under unusual circumstances, even if there is no blame to cast.

While I respect a mother's instinct, it is neither scientific nor objective.

JMO