JonBenet Ramson letter - written before or after + linguistics

[Tadpole12]

"If the parents were not aware of something horrible hadn't happened to that little girl a few hours after eating it they wouldn't have to lie about it." - DeeDee

Hi DeeDee.

I had happened to catch an episode of NG, Mark Klass commented on the Caylee Anthony Case, he said if they were able to tell the truth they would have consistent stories.

not able to be forward; by guilt or advisement or circumstances.

When I read PRs responses, I guess I don't feel a 'vigor'/ like a ... strong reaction to her indecisive replies?
I do believe that ST working hypothesis is perfectly laid out, I guess, I just have an unease in making some attachments to certain progressions of thought.

Still, though when you can't make heads nor tails? .... I guess I'm mired in details, frig and now I'm wondering 'bout the kleenex.

 

[Tadpole12]

I think its random coincidence. What do you think?

I've been thinking about Carmen Meranda?

 

[DeeDee249]

Don't worry to much about the Kleenex, Tadpole. Patsy was on a roll. She was distancing herself from pretty much everything on that table. Bowl, pineapple, spoon, Kleenex. No intruder brought his own Kleenex BOX! Wish I'd seen the results of fingerprint tests on that Kleenex box- I've never seen whether it was tested or what the results may have been. Maybe because that was one item that if she said she never saw it before and her prints were on it...well-she OWNED that box of tissues.

 

[Tadpole12]

"Wish I'd seen the results of fingerprint tests on that Kleenex box- I've never seen whether it was tested or what the results may have been." -DeeDee

hmmm ....
pondering.

 

[Ames]

Things in red are just your ideas of what you think happened, not to be confused with what actually happened.

Well since you were there, why don't YOU tell us what actually happened, then?

 

[Ames]

The work that is done to the pineapple is stated by Patsy.

2 PATSY RAMSEY: Usually I would buy those -- I
3 bought pineapple, it was fresh pineapple that had been
4 peeled or whatever they do to it, and core it and cut
5 it up a little bit, or some that had been fresh that
6 was sealed there in the produce area.

As lazy as Patsy was about keeping her house cleaned (they didn't even own a clothes hamper...throwing clothes on the floor), this fresh pineapple with all of the work done on it, doesn't surprise me.

 

[Ames]

Oh, puh-leeze, Ames! Everyone knows that angry leftists who are upset about the collapse of the Soviet Union bring in and feed fresh pineapple to little girls they don't know. I'll bet if you were to come across the Facebook page of an angry leftist who was upset over the collapse of the Soviet Union, listed under the category of Hobbies and Interests would be: Bringing in and feeding fresh pineapple to little girls I don't know.

LOL! Yeah, I bet that you are right! I know that every single angry leftist that is upset about the collapse of the Soviet Union that I am friends with, have told me that they always bring fresh pineapple into the home of a potential kidnapping/murder victim, to give to them before they kidnap or kill them. Must be some sort of pineapple ritual, or something.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

The RN is angry leftist. That is supported by FBI agent remarks. RDI doesn't even deny the leftist aspect of the RN. RDI claims its fake leftist, though. RDI claims PR faked a leftist extremist
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JBR was murdered on the 5th anniversary of the fall of the Soviet Union. A big day in leftist history.

See for yourself, and don't miss the other headline on fruit:

http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/big/1225.html

What does RDI have to say about that?

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Don't worry to much about the Kleenex, Tadpole. Patsy was on a roll. She was distancing herself from pretty much everything on that table. Bowl, pineapple, spoon, Kleenex. No intruder brought his own Kleenex BOX! Wish I'd seen the results of fingerprint tests on that Kleenex box- I've never seen whether it was tested or what the results may have been. Maybe because that was one item that if she said she never saw it before and her prints were on it...well-she OWNED that box of tissues.

PR's activities, according to RDI:

Prepare and feed JBR pineapple from a bowl.
Leave the uneaten pineapple out.
Accidentally kill JBR in a fit of rage caused by holiday stress.
Handwrite a 300+ word ransom note to make it look like an angry leftist wanted money in exchange for JBR's safe return.
Stage the body in the basement to look like a intruder's sexual assault/kidnapping gone bad/murder, in order to coverup accidental rage and prior abuse. Unintentionally show parental compassion by wrapping JBR lovingly.

Was the pineapple bowl left out accidentally or deliberately??

 

[icedtea4me]

HEY TADPOLE! Should we show icedtea the facebook page of the angry leftist or not?

Please do. I could use a good laugh.

 

[icedtea4me]

Will a New York Times 'front page' from December 25, 1991 showing two headlines, one on the collapse of the Soviet Union, and the other on pineapple suffice??

I think its random coincidence. What do you think?

You lied when you stated these were only two headlines, because you conveniently omitted the others:

Retailers Report Sales Fell Short of Dim Forecasts: Last-Minute Buying Spree Fails to Carry Merchants Ahead of Last Year's Receipts

From L.I. to Angry Illinois: A 5-Day Trash Odyssey

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

You lied when you stated these were only two headlines, because you conveniently omitted the others:

Retailers Report Sales Fell Short of Dim Forecasts: Last-Minute Buying Spree Fails to Carry Merchants Ahead of Last Year's Receipts

From L.I. to Angry Illinois: A 5-Day Trash Odyssey

Please show where I stated there were 'only two' and then maybe I made a mistake. 'You lied' is a little harsh.

 

[icedtea4me]

The RN is angry leftist. That is supported by FBI agent remarks.

I would like to see a sourced quote by an FBI agent who specifically said, "JonBenet Ramsey was killed by an angry leftist.

RDI doesn't even deny the leftist aspect of the RN. RDI claims its fake leftist, though. RDI claims PR faked a leftist extremist

I'm an RDI. Please find a post from me where I said that the note is a fake leftist or that Patsy faked a leftist extremist.
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JBR was murdered on the 5th anniversary of the fall of the Soviet Union. A big day in leftist history.

See for yourself, and don't miss the other headline on fruit:

http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/big/1225.html

What does RDI have to say about that?

She was also murdered on the 5th anniversary of Chuck Knolls retiring as an NFL coach.

 

[icedtea4me]

Please show where I stated there were 'only two' and then maybe I made a mistake. 'You lied' is a little harsh.

You said that paper showed two headlines. That paper shows four headlines.

 

[icedtea4me]

2 PATSY RAMSEY: Usually I would buy those -- I
3 bought pineapple, it was fresh pineapple that had been
4 peeled or whatever they do to it, and core it and cut
5 it up a little bit, or some that had been fresh that
6 was sealed there in the produce area.
7 TOM HANEY: What store did you buy this from?
8 PATSY RAMSEY: Safeway is usually where I buy
9 it from.
10 TOM HANEY: It is the fresh pineapple that
11 they do all the work for you?
12 PATSY RAMSEY: Correct.

PR had already stated she didn't buy this pineapple. Then she started saying 'well, usually when I buy pineapple'. TH then asks what store did she buy THIS pineapple from. Huge difference. He's apparently taken the conversation out of the 'usually buy pineapple' context and placed it back into a specific pineapple purchase and hoping for an answer. PR blasts that attempt by restating 'usually'.

Please provide the statement of Patsy saying "I didn't buy this pineapple."

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

You said that paper showed two headlines. That paper shows four headlines.

Whatever.

I would like to see a sourced quote by an FBI agent who specifically said, "JonBenet Ramsey was killed by an angry leftist.

I'm an RDI. Please find a post from me where I said that the note is a fake leftist or that Patsy faked a leftist extremist.

I suggest talking it over with SuperDave, he knows left from right and can explain it to you.

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She was also murdered on the 5th anniversary of Chuck Knolls retiring as an NFL coach.

Do you really think there's a link from JBR to Chuck Knolls retirement? I don't.

Clint VanZandt, former FBI agent, stated that the term 'Victory!' had 'revolutionary connotations that hark back to foreign powers'. Foreign 'powers'. Wow. I don't think he was talking about NFL football there!

It is well known that the term 'fat cat' is a derogatory term aimed at affluent businessmen. The RN terms 'fat cat' plus 'not the country that it serves' plus 'Victory!' obviously rule out any NFL affiliation and rule in a socialist affiliation. It doesn't take a political science degree to see the socialism. I'm so happy you're a football fan, though.

Besides, I don't want to burst RDI's bubble. The DA already did that...

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Please provide the statement of Patsy saying "I didn't buy this pineapple."

14 TOM HANEY: Is there some way to account for
15 the pineapple in her body?
16 PATSY RAMSEY: Not to my knowledge, unless
17 she -- you know, I can't remember what was served over
18 at the White's. Does anybody know? Except there was
19 crab. I remember crab.

In this section, PR is not able to account for pineapple in JBR. Had she purchased pineapple recently in her usual way from her usual place, then she could've accounted for it. Pineapple spoils quickly, you know.

 

[Ames]

You lied when you stated these were only two headlines, because you conveniently omitted the others:

Retailers Report Sales Fell Short of Dim Forecasts: Last-Minute Buying Spree Fails to Carry Merchants Ahead of Last Year's Receipts

From L.I. to Angry Illinois: A 5-Day Trash Odyssey

LOL...Maybe it was an angry leftist that was upset that Sales Fell Short of Dim Forecast. Or because the last minute buying spree failed to carry merchants ahead of last year's receipts. Heck, that would make me angry too! :furious:

 

[Ames]

Please show where I stated there were 'only two' and then maybe I made a mistake. 'You lied' is a little harsh.

Doesn't feel to good to be called a liar, does it holdon?

 

[Ames]

<respectfully snipped>

She was also murdered on the 5th anniversary of Chuck Knolls retiring as an NFL coach.

Way to go Icedtea....that MUST be it! An angry leftist that was upset that Chuck Knolls had retired as an NFL coach, five years earlier. He must have been really upset to kill over it.