Josh allegedly visits strip club after wife disappearance?

  • #141
Would you mind researching the closest strip clubs and escort services closest to my place? Please. :innocent:

Here ya go...........Be good!

Louie's Cordial Lounge‎ - more info »
392 Lyell Avenue, Rochester, NY 14606-1636 1.2 mi

Klassy Cat‎ - more info »
3800 West Henrietta Road, Rochester, NY 14623-3704 5.2 mi

Rick's Tallyho‎ - more info »
1555 East Henrietta Road, Rochester, NY 14623-3115 4.5 mi

Pure Platinum Entertainment‎ - more info »
PO Box Rochester, NY 14616 1.5 mi

Precious Gems‎ - more info »
Lake Avenue & Ridgeway Ave, Rochester, NY 14615 2.8 mi

Intimate Dreams‎ - more info »
Rochester, NY 14614 0.2 mi

Mall Stripper Bachelorette‎ - more info »
Rochester, NY 14606 4.1 mi

Kitty Kat Escort Services‎ - more info »
PO Box 16797, Rochester, NY 14616 5.5 mi

Absolute Entertainment
Park Avenue, Rochester, NY 14607 1.7 mi

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  • #142
Here ya go...........Be good!

Louie's Cordial Lounge‎ - more info »
392 Lyell Avenue, Rochester, NY 14606-1636 1.2 mi

Klassy Cat‎ - more info »
3800 West Henrietta Road, Rochester, NY 14623-3704 5.2 mi

Rick's Tallyho‎ - more info »
1555 East Henrietta Road, Rochester, NY 14623-3115 4.5 mi

Pure Platinum Entertainment‎ - more info »
PO Box Rochester, NY 14616 1.5 mi

Precious Gems‎ - more info »
Lake Avenue & Ridgeway Ave, Rochester, NY 14615 2.8 mi

Intimate Dreams‎ - more info »
Rochester, NY 14614 0.2 mi

Mall Stripper Bachelorette‎ - more info »
Rochester, NY 14606 4.1 mi

Kitty Kat Escort Services‎ - more info »
PO Box 16797, Rochester, NY 14616 5.5 mi

Absolute Entertainment
Park Avenue, Rochester, NY 14607 1.7 mi

Start a new business search to see all 237 results for strip clubs, rochester, ny

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Thanks, I didn't know about a couple...errr...any of those demeaning to women establishments!! :innocent:

What I find interesting is that you were able to do that in 5 minutes. Makes me think you have a very good source for these things. :crazy:
 
  • #143
:floorlaugh:

Thanks, I didn't know about a couple...errr...any of those demeaning to women establishments!! :innocent:

What I find interesting is that you were able to do that in 5 minutes. Makes me think you have a very good source for these things. :crazy:

No, I have a personal distaste for them....1st hubby was "into them" back in the 70's. Errrgh! Just did a search for strip clubs, rochester, ny on google maps. I can't get the links to carry over tho. Pickie how do you do that? After seeing the "girls" at that car wash, I'd say the pickins are slim---alot of cellulite!
 
  • #144
  • #145
No, I have a personal distaste for them....1st hubby was "into them" back in the 70's. Errrgh! Just did a search for strip clubs, rochester, ny on google maps. I can't get the links to carry over tho. Pickie how do you do that? After seeing the "girls" at that car wash, I'd say the pickins are slim---alot of cellulite!

On Google maps, you can't get your result to carry over when it's an interactive map.
 
  • #146
This makes me sick. Haven't some of *Susan's friends* learned anything in the last three months? :banghead:

I'm totally fed up with having to read this garbage over and over. *Susan's friends* - how about taking your dense, naive heads out of the clouds and try to absorb a little of Susan's proven reality, happily provided by the *Honorable* Joshua Powell?
:furious:

How would YOU like to have been treated as Susan was for the last 5, 6 or more years? :confused:

How would YOU like to be where Susan is now, courtesy of the creep you defend ? :waitasec:


Reported by: Marcos Ortiz

WEST VALLEY CITY (ABC4 News) – Close friends of Susan Powell doubt her husband was inside a bar drinking the day after she went missing. --- Because they know him SOOOO WELL - and know his admirable character would NEVER consider such a TERRIBLE act!

Customers and employees of the Deuces Wild in South Salt Lake were investigated by West Valley Police about the possible sighting.

They claimed that a man believed to be Josh Powell was inside the bar drinking and being obnoxious.

But it’s hard to believe that it was Josh according to Susan’s close friends.

"It's extremely uncharacteristic of him,” said Kiirsi Hellewell, a close friend of Susan. “I don't think you could find anyone who knows Josh that he would be drinking."
--- But there are all kinds of people who knew Josh made his wife ride a bike 7 miles to work on an extremely busy, dangerous street.

--- Many people knew Josh forced Susan to grow vegetables because he wouldn't give her the money SHE EARNED to buy food for her boys.

--- People also knew Josh didn't approve money for new shoes for Susan's children when the old ones were outgrown.

--- And there were lots of dear friends who knew Josh slapped Susan around once in a while > > > >

--- But by gosh, Josh would NEVER, EVER, EVER touch alcohol!


JoVonna Owings is also a close friend of Susan and even spoke with Josh by phone the following day after her disappearance in December.

“I personally can't imagine that he could do anything like that,” Owings said.
--- But of course I CAN now imagine all the other things he did that have been PROVEN by my fellow ward members.

--- but NO NO NO NO NO -- Josh would never drink a sinful beer and oogle at evil, half neekid women!


Josh Powell's a non-practicing Mormon.

And Owings said Susan never told her that he ever drank. --- And after all, Susan told me absolutely EVERYTHING. We were best buds for years and years, doncha know!

"I think she would have expressed it if there was a problem she would have expressed it,” she said.
--- Just exactly like I know she expressed ALL her other problems TO ME!


Police investigated the possible sighting but couldn't confirm it beyond a reasonable doubt.

Investigators learned of it days after her disappearance. And pictures of Josh Powell were all over the news.

“There was opportunity for them to see Josh's photograph on the news and see footage of him and there could possibly be some transposing of ideas there and that may either taint or support their account," said Captain Tom McLachlan.

And if Josh was inside the bar, where were his children? Were they outside in the van?

“I don't think he would have ever done that,” said Owings. “No he was very attentive to those children, very attentive to those boys and he always knew where they were at and what they were doing all the time.”

--- Well, except for that time he left SICK 18 month old Branden and SICK 3-1/2 year old Charlie in the house ALL ALONE to go chase down Susan on the bicycle he made her ride to work, so she could take care of the SICK children he had just left ALL ALONE and FRANTICALLY CRYING!

--- And of course Josh needed a babysitter to care for the boys when HE WAS HOME with them because he had other things to do besides care for Susan's pesky sons.

--- And it was WONDERFULLY ATTENTIVE for Josh to be so considerate to take the boys on the subfreezing camping trip at 12:30 AM - for breakfast S'Mores in the blizzard.

--- What a MAGNIFICENT, SAINT of a FATHER! :mad:

Police also said that Josh Powell was interviewed about ninety minutes after he was supposedly at the tavern.

“They had not detected any presence of alcohol odor or anything like that,” said Cpt. McLachlan.

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top...TzCSFo5AQ.cspx

And by the way, if Susan was really your friend and you really want her found, how about trying really, really hard to raise the shameful, :furious: measly reward?
 
  • #147
Since that 5 minute link has been up for so long, I'm thinking this was her first title to the current article and that she got the date wrong. I'm not sure. But, it's been almost 1/2 hour with the 5 minute notice still up. I hope I am wrong! But, it seems as though that article will not be published.

Here's the link for the "Strip club owner says Josh Powell came into his bar a week after Susan Powell went missing" article: http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m3d9-Strip-club-owner-says-Josh-Powell-came-into-his-bar-Dec-14-a-week-after-Susan-Powell-went-missing

I'm afraid you're right, Pickie. The link for the visit on December 14th is gone.

Reading the latest December 7th link makes me darn mad that the WVC cops couldn't try a little harder to prove one way or another whether the weird guy at the strip joint was or was not Josh.

The more I learn about that WVC Police Department, the more I think they're a bunch of lazy incompetents. :mad:

The similarities between Susan's disappearance and Laci Peterson's disappearance are almost exact. But WOW, the PDs in the two cities -- and the search efforts couldn't be more diametrically opposite.

Frankly, If I lived in Utah I would be profoundly embarrassed and sad. :( _ IMO, The way Susan's disappearance has been handled is a DISGRACE!

Here are a few facts about Laci's disappearance:

1. HUNDREDS were searching for Laci Peterson on CHRISTMAS DAY, less than 24 hours after she was reported missing.

2. Scott's car had a GPS secretly installed and from day one he was followed by MPD EVERYWHERE.

3. A warrant tapped Scott's phones and the phones of some of his family.

4. Within a week, thousands were searching in ORGANIZED SEARCHES from the mountains to the ocean, East to West -- and at least 100 miles South and 100 miles North of Modesto.

5. Search teams including scent and cadaver dogs plus professional water-searching-sonar-boats were brought in and worked endlessly.

6. A command center with multiple phone lines for incoming tips was set up within TWO days.

7. The Sund Carrington Foundation was immediately contacted and the reward for Laci was raised to $500,000.

Just a WEE BIT DIFFERENT from the way Susan's disappearance has been handled, huh?

Scott Peterson was arrested the day Laci's body was identified, approximately four months after her disappearance. His permanent home is on San Quentin's Death Row. Anotother narcissistic sociopath will not hurt another woman or baby - EVER! :dance:
 
  • #148
This makes me sick. Haven't some of *Susan's friends* learned anything in the last three months? :banghead:

I'm totally fed up with having to read this garbage over and over. *Susan's friends* - how about taking your dense, naive heads out of the clouds and try to absorb a little of Susan's proven reality, happily provided by the *Honorable* Joshua Powell?
:furious:

How would YOU like to have been treated as Susan was for the last 5, 6 or more years? :confused:

How would YOU like to be where Susan is now, courtesy of the creep you defend ? :waitasec:


Grandmato4: I am new to websleuths but i have read every post about Susan since day one on this forum. My ex was a narcissist sociopath and my heart breaks for Susan, as I realize...it could have easily been me.

I swear these guys are all cut from the same cloth. My ex was very involved in our church (not lds but it doesn't matter.) He was a COMPLETELY different person in public then when he was behind closed doors. I had some health issues - and was even in a wheelchair for two years due to his abuse. He was respected in the community and very attentive, doting, caring, concerned towards me and the children when anyone was looking. In fact, church members constantly told me how lucky I was. But people who spent time with him, and had more than a superficial relationship couldn't stand to be around him, just like Josh.

When I finally started to open up about what was REALLY going on at home, our church's reaction was similar to what Susan's friends are saying. Disbelief and denial. And when I left that abusive marriage, all our friends rallied to help HIM! It defies logic and common sense. Talk about misdirected compassion. :banghead:

Poor, poor Susan...
 
  • #149
Here are a few facts about Laci's disappearance:

1. HUNDREDS were searching for Laci Peterson on CHRISTMAS DAY, less than 24 hours after she was reported missing.

2. Scott's car had a GPS secretly installed and from day one he was followed by MPD EVERYWHERE.

3. A warrant tapped Scott's phones and the phones of some of his family.

4. Within a week, thousands were searching in ORGANIZED SEARCHES from the mountains to the ocean, East to West -- and at least 100 miles South and 100 miles North of Modesto.

5. Search teams including scent and cadaver dogs plus professional water-searching-sonar-boats were brought in and worked endlessly.

6. A command center with multiple phone lines for incoming tips was set up within TWO days.

7. The Sund Carrington Foundation was immediately contacted and the reward for Laci was raised to $500,000.

Just a WEE BIT DIFFERENT from the way Susan's disappearance has been handled, huh?

Scott Peterson was arrested the day Laci's body was identified, approximately four months after her disappearance. His permanent home is on San Quentin's Death Row. Anotother narcissistic sociopath will not hurt another woman or baby - EVER! :dance:
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I think these comparisons are somewhat unrealistic and unfair.

Four months have not gone by.

The tax base and population density around the suspected crime scene are completely different.

You don't know how many searchers and dogs and what other equipment are involved in this case.

The average winter daytime temperatures and weather conditions in the two areas are not comparable.

45,000 people involved online is less expensive and safer than a bunch of people tracking across the west desert in winter.

Like I said, I'm just sayin'. :angel:
 
  • #150
This makes me sick. Haven't some of *Susan's friends* learned anything in the last three months? :banghead:

I'm totally fed up with having to read this garbage over and over. *Susan's friends* - how about taking your dense, naive heads out of the clouds and try to absorb a little of Susan's proven reality, happily provided by the *Honorable* Joshua Powell?
:furious:

How would YOU like to have been treated as Susan was for the last 5, 6 or more years? :confused:

How would YOU like to be where Susan is now, courtesy of the creep you defend ? :waitasec:


Reported by: Marcos Ortiz

WEST VALLEY CITY (ABC4 News) – Close friends of Susan Powell doubt her husband was inside a bar drinking the day after she went missing. --- Because they know him SOOOO WELL - and know his admirable character would NEVER consider such a TERRIBLE act!

Customers and employees of the Deuces Wild in South Salt Lake were investigated by West Valley Police about the possible sighting.

They claimed that a man believed to be Josh Powell was inside the bar drinking and being obnoxious.

But it’s hard to believe that it was Josh according to Susan’s close friends.

"It's extremely uncharacteristic of him,” said Kiirsi Hellewell, a close friend of Susan. “I don't think you could find anyone who knows Josh that he would be drinking."
--- But there are all kinds of people who knew Josh made his wife ride a bike 7 miles to work on an extremely busy, dangerous street.

--- Many people knew Josh forced Susan to grow vegetables because he wouldn't give her the money SHE EARNED to buy food for her boys.

--- People also knew Josh didn't approve money for new shoes for Susan's children when the old ones were outgrown.

--- And there were lots of dear friends who knew Josh slapped Susan around once in a while > > > >

--- But by gosh, Josh would NEVER, EVER, EVER touch alcohol!


JoVonna Owings is also a close friend of Susan and even spoke with Josh by phone the following day after her disappearance in December.

“I personally can't imagine that he could do anything like that,” Owings said.
--- But of course I CAN now imagine all the other things he did that have been PROVEN by my fellow ward members.

--- but NO NO NO NO NO -- Josh would never drink a sinful beer and oogle at evil, half neekid women!


Josh Powell's a non-practicing Mormon.

And Owings said Susan never told her that he ever drank. --- And after all, Susan told me absolutely EVERYTHING. We were best buds for years and years, doncha know!

"I think she would have expressed it if there was a problem she would have expressed it,” she said.
--- Just exactly like I know she expressed ALL her other problems TO ME!


Police investigated the possible sighting but couldn't confirm it beyond a reasonable doubt.

Investigators learned of it days after her disappearance. And pictures of Josh Powell were all over the news.

“There was opportunity for them to see Josh's photograph on the news and see footage of him and there could possibly be some transposing of ideas there and that may either taint or support their account," said Captain Tom McLachlan.

And if Josh was inside the bar, where were his children? Were they outside in the van?

“I don't think he would have ever done that,” said Owings. “No he was very attentive to those children, very attentive to those boys and he always knew where they were at and what they were doing all the time.”

--- Well, except for that time he left SICK 18 month old Branden and SICK 3-1/2 year old Charlie in the house ALL ALONE to go chase down Susan on the bicycle he made her ride to work, so she could take care of the SICK children he had just left ALL ALONE and FRANTICALLY CRYING!

--- And of course Josh needed a babysitter to care for the boys when HE WAS HOME with them because he had other things to do besides care for Susan's pesky sons.

--- And it was WONDERFULLY ATTENTIVE for Josh to be so considerate to take the boys on the subfreezing camping trip at 12:30 AM - for breakfast S'Mores in the blizzard.

--- What a MAGNIFICENT, SAINT of a FATHER! :mad:

Police also said that Josh Powell was interviewed about ninety minutes after he was supposedly at the tavern.

“They had not detected any presence of alcohol odor or anything like that,” said Cpt. McLachlan.

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top...TzCSFo5AQ.cspx

And by the way, if Susan was really your friend and you really want her found, how about trying really, really hard to raise the shameful, :furious: measly reward?
Great points!
J must be some sort of really compelling person to those who are open to his manipulation. He has managed to keep his friends close--they open their home (and computer) to him, feed him, help him clean, pack and move, and do home repairs so he can turn the family home into a rental...I'm sure there is more to this list. And he happily takes all the generous assistance given WHILE he refused to give the police any assistance AT ALL!

Now we've entered into the twilight zone. Why in the world would anyone who wants the truth to come out need to comment on their opinion on the veracity of tips????? We want more folks to come forward, not less. I worry that the end effect of friends of J dissing tipsters in the media may be that they seriously discourage others from making a call.

I keep hoping the police will talk to the friends...let them know they have a right to their opinions...but please stay out of police business. It's not their job to determine what tips that they "like" and what tips they don't "like".
 
  • #151
Did anyone besides me get stuck on the term "ball cap" in the news story, the audio, I mean. They said he was wearing a ball cap. That's not convincing me it was Josh. Now if they said dorky ski hat with a light blue stripe, I'd know right off. Or was that just a reporter error?
 
  • #152
It is hard not to compare how cases are handled when we are all reading about them and are so interested in the outcome. But Utah did a good job when Lori Hacking went missing and found her body quickly and had husband Mark in jail very quickly. So they do it right sometimes. As far as Lacy, well her case just took on a life of its own right away, nothing Scott ever imagined would happen.
I think in many cases the earlier they get moving on a case, the better the evidence, even if outcome is not good, but we are also seeing plenty of cold cases where they eventually get enough to file charges, so we shouldn't assume they aren't working on making a case even if we can't see it happening. I hope that this one is solved, but I do not feel that Susan is alive, so if this is true, they may as well get it right before making any arrests. IMO
 
  • #153
Witness at strip club says Josh was wearing the beanie with the blue stripe

In the included news video footage, the reporter claims a witness to Josh's appearance at the Duces Wild strip club said the reason he is sure it was Josh is because he was wearing the same beanie with the blue stripe he was wearing in "The Blue Cap Interview".

 
  • #154
Witness at strip club says Josh was wearing the beanie with the blue stripe

In the included news video footage, the reporter claims a witness to Josh's appearance at the Duces Wild strip club said the reason he is sure it was Josh is because he was wearing the same beanie with the blue stripe he was wearing in "The Blue Cap Interview".

I readily admit that I miss things, but I searched the text for beanie and stripe and they don't show up. I also ran it on the google and no luck, either. Got another link? I'm still looking for that audio where he said it was a ball cap.
 
  • #155
7. The Sund Carrington Foundation was immediately contacted and the reward for Laci was raised to $500,000.

Just a WEE BIT DIFFERENT from the way Susan's disappearance has been handled, huh?

Scott Peterson was arrested the day Laci's body was identified, approximately four months after her disappearance. His permanent home is on San Quentin's Death Row. Anotother narcissistic sociopath will not hurt another woman or baby - EVER! :dance:

Disgusted and annoyed!

The thing that has DISGUSTED me the most is that NONE of Susan's friends and family members have EVER bothered to try to up the reward amount.

Mr. Cox and another man set up a joint bank account and asked for money to be donated to it in the Friends and Family of Susan Powell Facebook group description. (This account was established and information posted about it shortly after Susan disappeared.)

The monies received could be used at the discretion of Mr. Cox for expenses such as travel, private investigators, etc. Myself and many others on Facebook left comments on the wall of the various Susan Powell Facebook groups to the effect we would NOT donate unless there was a reward fund established by a long established, trusted organization which was well known for handling matters such as this.

Many people commented they were wanting to donate money that would go directly into a reward fund, money that couldn't be used for any other purpose.

When I attempted to start a discussion about how my Facebook group could set up such a reward fund and who we could contact, I was told that the Cox family and the Facebook administrators had a FAR BETTER PLAN and not to proceed.

I was also constantly complaining in my comments on Facebook that the Cox family et all had not bothered to set up a website where photos of Susan and important information could be posted with my reason being that there are millions of people who do not have Facebook accounts and who will NEVER have a Facebook account and that limiting the accessibility to Susan's photos only to Facebook was a BAD MISTAKE!

What was the far better plan? The http://susanpowellcoxfoundation.org web site. WHERE ARE ALL THE PHOTOS OF SUSAN?

The Cox family et all wants to use donations to help other people learn what to do when their loved one goes missing yet they never bothered to set up a web site for Susan until three months after she was missing when their late to arrive web site it is STILL lacking a photo gallery containing ALL of the photos of Susan available on Friends and Family of Susan Powell Facebook group?

The Cox family et all wants to receive donations to help others recognize the sypmtoms of abuse and domestic violence when they couldn't even recognize them themselves?

The Cox family et all wants to present themselves as experts when it comes to providing advice as to what actions to take immediately after a loved one goes missing yet they cannot grasp the fact that along with spreading the information and photos of the missing person as rapidly as possible that the main focus should be offering the largest possible reward?

It really ticks me off that they want people to make donations directly to them and have not applied one penny towards upping the pathetic $11,000.00 reward!

Surely they have received at least $1000.00 so far but they sure didn't apply it to the reward!

Don't they realize if they were to announce the reward has been increased by $1000.00 that it would be covered by the media? They brainstorm about ways to bring attention to Susan's case yet they can't even comprehend that increasing the reward will draw the attention of the person they need the most:

THE PERSON WHO JOSH HAS CONFIDED IN WHO MIGHT JUST TALK IF THE MONEY IS RIGHT!

It is obvious they want to use the money for other things rather than upping the reward. This really disgusts and annoys me beyond words!

There was a troll on Facebook who repeatedly stated he felt the Cox family et all were going to try to make money off of Susan's disappearance. Now, with the nonprofit Susan Powell Cox Foundation, donations received can be designated towards salaries to pay the officers for the services their foundation is providing! I will not comment as to how I feel about this!

Regarding the positive, supportive comments to the media from Susan's friends about Josh being at the strip club

Why do you all have to blab and blab? Why can't you just say, "At this point, I wouldn't be surprised to learn he was at a strip club! I really thought I knew Josh but apparently I did not!" or "I have NO comment!" Why can't you understand that saying things like "Oh Josh would never do that!" does more harm than good? Did you think Josh Powell would murder your dear friend? You all did NOT REALLY know Josh at all so please stop defending him!
 
  • #156
I readily admit that I miss things, but I searched the text for beanie and stripe and they don't show up. I also ran it on the google and no luck, either. Got another link? I'm still looking for that audio where he said it was a ball cap.

Watch the video.

The news reporter states the witness knew it was Josh Powell because he was wearing the beanie cap with the blue stripe.​


Go to 1:09 in the video: "They recognized him because he was wearing the same knit hat he wore in several TV appearances."
 
  • #157
Watch the video.

The news reporter states the witness knew it was Josh Powell because he was wearing the beanie cap with the blue stripe.​


Go to 1:09 in the video: "They recognized him because he was wearing the same knit hat he wore in several TV appearances."

Very, very interesting. Did you know that KSL replaces a video that accompanies a story with a newer one that says the exact opposite about the hat?

I saved the original video on my desktop, and it has a brunette wearing a bright pink jacket on the right with a younger announcer wearing a gray tie, and in that version it says the owner said he was wearing a ball cap at 0:57 on that video. The video has the same number, 9941987.flv, so I know it was replaced. I didn't know they'd do that, and now who do you believe.

Maybe that's why the cops had trouble with this one. The reporting isn't helping. I know they'd love for this to be right, and maybe they can still get it right, since it looks like a key item. I'm just betting they have more and better and are still way ahead of us on here.
 
  • #158


I was also constantly complaining in my comments on Facebook that the Cox family et all had not bothered to set up a website where photos of Susan and important information could be posted with my reason being that there are millions of people who do not have Facebook accounts and who will NEVER have a Facebook account and that limiting the accessibility to Susan's photos only to Facebook was a BAD MISTAKE!

I completely agree with this point. I am one of those who will NEVER have a Facebook account.​
 
  • #159
I completely agree with this point. I am one of those who will NEVER have a Facebook account.

Sadly, it's not just Josh whose been overly controlling in this case.
 
  • #160
Very, very interesting. Did you know that KSL replaces a video that accompanies a story with a newer one that says the exact opposite about the hat?

I saved the original video on my desktop, and it has a brunette wearing a bright pink jacket on the right with a younger announcer wearing a gray tie, and in that version it says the owner said he was wearing a ball cap at 0:57 on that video. The video has the same number, 9941987.flv, so I know it was replaced. I didn't know they'd do that, and now who do you believe.

Maybe that's why the cops had trouble with this one. The reporting isn't helping. I know they'd love for this to be right, and maybe they can still get it right, since it looks like a key item. I'm just betting they have more and better and are still way ahead of us on here.

I must say, I'm rather shocked they would replace the video with conflicting information. Good Sleuthing!
 

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