JR lies right off the bat...

  • #21
If that had been my daughter, and the police told me they suspected prior abuse, I would have asked a thousand questions, such as: What do you mean? What did you find? Are you sure that's something that had to have been the result of abuse? Is there no other explanation? How could that happen? Who could have done that? When was she around someone who would have done that, and where? How badly injured was she? How could I not have known? Did she act like there was a problem, and I didn't notice that's what it was? Did she try to tell me and I didn't realize? What about my other children - has this happened to them?

and I would have ended that interview with insistence that they find this dangerous person and I would have followed up by doing everything I could to help them hunt this person down and hold them accountable for torturing and killing my innocent, defenseless child.
 
  • #22
I recall reading DOI for the first time and believing that the Ramseys were innocent.

I then wrote a letter to John Ramsey and to my disbelief he wrote me back.

I kept the letter in the DOI book which I lent out to a poster here. If you are reading this....is the letter still in the book?
 
  • #23
If that had been my daughter, and the police told me they suspected prior abuse, I would have asked a thousand questions, such as: What do you mean? What did you find? Are you sure that's something that had to have been the result of abuse? Is there no other explanation? How could that happen? Who could have done that? When was she around someone who would have done that, and where? How badly injured was she? How could I not have known? Did she act like there was a problem, and I didn't notice that's what it was? Did she try to tell me and I didn't realize? What about my other children - has this happened to them?

and I would have ended that interview with insistence that they find this dangerous person and I would have followed up by doing everything I could to help them hunt this person down and hold them accountable for torturing and killing my innocent, defenseless child.

You are right. I am trying to give her the benefit of the doubt, but if someone told me that - how am I supposed to go home until I know the exact truth - I really can't. So you are right I would want more.
 
  • #24
I recall reading DOI for the first time and believing that the Ramseys were innocent.

I then wrote a letter to John Ramsey and to my disbelief he wrote me back.

I kept the letter in the DOI book which I lent out to a poster here. If you are reading this....is the letter still in the book?

Oh Toltec, you are breaking my heart. You lent someone your book and they did not even tell you the letter was in it and send it back to you.

Whoever borrowed the book, I think the only, the only decent thing to do right now would be to let Toltec know that you are returning the letter forthwith.

I really am serious.
 
  • #25
I recall reading DOI for the first time and believing that the Ramseys were innocent.

I then wrote a letter to John Ramsey and to my disbelief he wrote me back.

I kept the letter in the DOI book which I lent out to a poster here. If you are reading this....is the letter still in the book?

You must have lent it to an IDI.

Was this a number of years ago that John wrote to you?
 
  • #26
sounds like the decent thing to do.I hope it gets returned.
 
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If that had been my daughter, and the police told me they suspected prior abuse, I would have asked a thousand questions, such as: What do you mean? What did you find? Are you sure that's something that had to have been the result of abuse? Is there no other explanation? How could that happen? Who could have done that? When was she around someone who would have done that, and where? How badly injured was she? How could I not have known? Did she act like there was a problem, and I didn't notice that's what it was? Did she try to tell me and I didn't realize? What about my other children - has this happened to them?

and I would have ended that interview with insistence that they find this dangerous person and I would have followed up by doing everything I could to help them hunt this person down and hold them accountable for torturing and killing my innocent, defenseless child.

Absolutely! If I werer innocent, even if I knew that LE suspected me of the murder, I would be in a rage about my daughter being molested. Even, as Nedra put it "only a little bit molested".
 
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I THINK what JR is referring to is Steve Thomas inferring that JR sexually abused JBR. I believe ST asked him about the shirt fibers in her panties, and the coroner's evidence of prior abuse. Somewhere in an interview on acandyrose is JR evading answering questions by accusing the inrerviewer of disgracing his relationship with JBR.
Anyone here remember it? I don't do cut & paste, but if someone here has it, please post it, thanks.

No that wasn't Steve Thomas. Thomas participated in the 1997 interviews with the Ramseys. The fibre evidence wasn't brought out until the 2000 Atlanta interviews and indeed were a major sticking point during those interviews.

John Ramsey is merely referring to the fact that Thomas suspected him and Patsy. It seems to me that the Ramseys were just upset at being suspects full stop. They are on record as saying that they understand that they had to be suspects but their actions and their words don't gel. IMO, if they had genuinely understood that they had to be suspects, they'd have done whatever they could to help the police to get past them.
 
  • #33
...They are on record as saying that they understand that they had to be suspects but their actions and their words don't gel. IMO, if they had genuinely understood that they had to be suspects, they'd have done whatever they could to help the police to get past them.

Hi Jay,

I think admitting that they knew they were suspects yet not cooperating with authorities, even with an attorney in hand, is what first swayed me. I don't care if they were acting on advice of their counsel. No lawyer would tell innocent parents to withhold information for four months.
 
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After reading that article about her I have to wonder if she wasn't the best thing to happen to the Ramsey's that day.

So she has the information but doesn't know what happened. But if she gives somebody else the information, then they will be able to figure it out. Huh?
 
  • #36
After reading that article about her I have to wonder if she wasn't the best thing to happen to the Ramsey's that day.

So she has the information but doesn't know what happened. But if she gives somebody else the information, then they will be able to figure it out. Huh?

What happened to the part where Linda said she counted the bullets after looking into John's eyes. Has she changed her mind about Johnny?

She is so full of it. She is going to make money off the case - plain and simple - she has nothing new to offer, except to say the case was held back by secrets and it will open a new chapter, may not solve it, but open a new chapter.

Listen Linda, if you hadn't of screwed up in the beginning, we would not be in this mess. It is not like you were trying to maintain order in the South Bronx. You had 7 adults in one room and it is bad enough you let John go searching, but then you moved her and put a blanket over her. If I am desperate I might read the book, there is a scintilla of a chance, but I doubt it. It will be another DOI.
 
  • #37
After reading that article about her I have to wonder if she wasn't the best thing to happen to the Ramsey's that day.

So she has the information but doesn't know what happened. But if she gives somebody else the information, then they will be able to figure it out. Huh?

Albert, I thought it was a somewhat convoluted statement. Newspaper reports are notorious for mis-speaking what was said. Who knows? I enjoy reading so would probably get the book. I think I've already figured it out though. :dance:
 
  • #38
What happened to the part where Linda said she counted the bullets after looking into John's eyes. ...

Yes, I don't know why she was worried, it was practically a catered event. Forget the bullets, are we okay with the ice and chips?
 
  • #39
I recall reading DOI for the first time and believing that the Ramseys were innocent.

I then wrote a letter to John Ramsey and to my disbelief he wrote me back.

I kept the letter in the DOI book which I lent out to a poster here. If you are reading this....is the letter still in the book?
I suppose you remember what John wrote in the letter. You also seem to believe that John Ramsey was totally innocent and not even involved in the cover-up (see your recent post where you alleged that lawyer Levin "lied" about the incriminating fiber evidence against John). Just my speculation, but maybe receiving a personal letter from one of the suspects confirmed your belief in this suspect's innocence?
 
  • #40
Yes, I don't know why she was worried, it was practically a catered event. Forget the bullets, are we okay with the ice and chips?

I hate to laugh about such a serious subject, but that was funny. :woohoo:
 

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