Juggalo Thread

[redheadedgal]

At present, the only thing linking Jersey to the periphery of this case is that an ex-girlfriend's number allegedly showed up on the records for one of the DB phones. It sounds like a lot of people may have used MW's phones/had her number. I can't just assume it must have been Jersey who dialed the number or even that it was MW that someone was trying to reach.

IIRC, the husband/wife sightings described a tall, slender, balding man...and MT identified someone else altogether as the man he saw. The so-called "white blob" video is unidentifiable and useless. IMO, based just on what we know, I don't believe there was any credible sighting of Jersey that night. Also, didn't he have a hurt knee (maybe hit/bumped by a car)? That's a lot of walking around to do, carrying 30 lbs of extra weight on an injured knee.

1. Do we even know that Jersey IS a Juggalo? As far as I'm aware, we know only that Megan is a Juggalette. I feel like we're putting the cart in front of the horse a little bit to assume that Jersey must be one, too...and then making an even bigger leap to think he might be one of the gang-type, babykiller-lyrics-loving, violence-craving Juggalos.
2. If he is a Juggalo, to what extent is he entrenched in that lifestyle? Are most of his associations with Juggalos?
3. Do we know whether Jersey has ever mentioned kidnapping or selling/harming a baby or whether he's ever seemed to covet someone's infant?
4. Has Jersey ever been convicted of any crimes involving children? Any crimes involving kidnapping? Armed robbery? Home invasion? Carjacking?
5. Has he ever been arrested/convicted for breaking into any homes when the occupants were there?
6. Has he been involved in instances of violence, and if so, were they bar-type brawls/fights among the crowd he runs with or were there attacks against innocent third parties?
7. Has there ever been any connection between Jersey and this family (immediate or extended)? If so, is there some reason he might hold a grudge against the family? Is there a drug connection? A failure to pay? Does he think they turned him in to LE for some other incident?

Absent any evidence whatsoever linking him to this crime (at least that we've been made aware of), those are some of the things I'd like to know before I can seriously consider Jersey a suspect in this case. He is a shady guy, no doubt, and just about anything in this world is possible...but it's a HUGE leap, IMO, to go from an arson conviction, stealing and selling stuff - being a criminal miscreant in general - to kidnapping an infant from her crib, inside her own home.

It's especially risky while the mother and two other children lay sleeping a few yards away. Even if he knew JI wasn't home, how would he know DB wouldn't wake up and fill him full of lead, call 911 from some other phone in the house, or at least catch him in the act and make a getaway extremely difficult if not impossible?

All the above are why I'm hesitant to go down the Jersey-did-it path. On the other hand, while DB certainly doesn't have a criminal record like Jersey does, I have concerns about her. Among them, she was in charge of Lisa's care and we know for a fact she was in the home that night; she may have been impaired to the point she doesn't even know what she did or what happened; she's made some troubling and inconsistent statements; she will not talk individually to LE even with her lawyer present. These are very valid concerns, IMO.

I'd have to make a lot of leaps to put Jersey in the house, and even more to have him taking Lisa. I don't have to make any leaps at all to put DB there. I don't have to make leaps to know she's made inconsistent statements and has not since the earliest days talked to LE individually, even though her lawyer was also invited to accompany her. That doesn't necessarily mean she is guilty of anything. It's just why I have far more reason to be concerned about her as a POI at present than Jersey.

I'm not by ANY means defending the character of Jersey. And if it turns out he can be linked to the attempted MW phone call, or if answers to some of the questions above are in the affirmative, my opinion about his possible involvement would change in a hurry. I understand that others see him as a very good suspect, and that's fine. But I think if next to nothing can tie him to it, then there are others with way more than next-to-nothing ties who have to be at least as equally suspected based on the limited info we've been able to glean thus far.

wow!! excellent post!! :great:

 

[highflyer]

We haven't heard anything that I know about Dane being a Juggalo...

Head on back to last November and start on post #592.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154466&page=24

 

[iamnotagolem]

Head on back to last November and start on post #592.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154466&page=24

I went back and read a few pages starting at that post but I didn't see any links to anything stating dane is a juggalo. I could have missed it, I am on my phone. Is there a link that states he is a juggle or were you just referring to the poster who indicated that Dane is a juggle b/c he lived with mw who identifies herself as a juggalette?

Darn auto correct read juggle as juggalo.

 

[vlpate]

We haven't heard anything that I know about Dane being a Juggalo...

He goes by Dane "Diggler". "Diggler" is a juggalo nickname. That's all I know

 

[hambirg]

Head on back to last November and start on post #592.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154466&page=24

The interview linked in that post doesn't say anything about DG being a Juggalo.

 

[highflyer]

I went back and read a few pages starting at that post but I didn't see any links to anything stating dane is a juggalo. I could have missed it, I am on my phone. Is there a link that states he is a juggle or were you just referring to the poster who indicated that Dane is a juggle b/c he lived with mw who identifies herself as a juggalette?

Darn auto correct read juggle as juggalo.

Googled Dane Diggler and Dane Greathouse and Juggalo. Used the Webslueths thread of course. Myspace pages and facebook pages referred to it from reading this and other forums but they have since been taken down and I do not have them saved but remember reading them which had been linked on a Facebook page called Justice for Lisa Irwin. Wish I could be of more help but I'm sure somebody has saved the information.

 

[vlpate]

There's actually a facebook page called Juggalos Against Child Abuse.

 

[norest4thewicked]

He goes by Dane "Diggler". "Diggler" is a juggalo nickname. That's all I know

"Diggler" is also another kind of nickname. Ever heard of "Dirk Diggler"? :lol:

 

[iamnotagolem]

Googled Dane Diggler and Dane Greathouse and Juggalo. Used the Webslueths thread of course. Myspace pages and facebook pages referred to it from reading this and other forums but they have since been taken down and I do not have them saved but remember reading them which had been linked on a Facebook page called Justice for Lisa Irwin. Wish I could be of more help but I'm sure somebody has saved the information.

BBM, Anything posted on that FB page is rumor, and generally far from accurate. It's everything websleuths is not, posting people's facebook pages, pictures, etc when they have no relation to the case.

I was hoping for a link to MSM or to something where Dane says he's a Juggalo.

 

[norest4thewicked]

There's actually a facebook page called Juggalos Against Child Abuse.

Well then...I wonder if MW was a member of that Juggalo group? I mean, if we are to say that she could be a part of the murderous group of Juggalos that kill and kidnap children, we certainly should be able to say that she could as easily be a member of Juggalos Against Child Abuse...wouldn't you think?

 

[Sherbie]

"Diggler" is also another kind of nickname. Ever heard of "Dirk Diggler"? :lol:

:giggle:

 

[norest4thewicked]

:giggle:

Hehe...okay...I will be good! :blushing: