Just Patsy, only Patsy

[DeDee]

August 2000 Patsy Ramsey Atlanta Interview - from a candyrose:

0200
3 MR. LEVIN: I think that is
4 probably fair. Based on the state of the
5 art scientific testing, we believe the fibers
6 from her jacket were found in the paint
7 tray, were found tied into the ligature found
8 on JonBenet's neck, were found on the blanket
9 that she is wrapped in, were found on the
10 duct tape that is found on the mouth, and
11 the question is, can she explain to us how
12 those fibers appeared in those places that
13 are associated with her daughter's death.
14 And I understand you are not going to answer
15 those.


JR's shirt fibers:
0202
8 MR. LEVIN: I understand your
9 position.
10 In addition to those questions,
11 there are some others that I would like you
12 to think about whether or not we can have
13 Mrs. Ramsey perhaps in the future answer. I
14 understand you are advising her not to today,
15 and those are there are black fibers that,
16 according to our testing that was conducted,
17 that match one of the two shirts that was
18 provided to us by the Ramseys, black shirt.
19 Those are located in the
20 underpants of JonBenet Ramsey, were found in
21 her crotch area, and I believe those are two
22 other areas that we have intended to ask
23 Mrs. Ramsey about if she could help us in
24 explaining their presence in those locations.


By Wendy Murphy
Posted Jul. 19, 2008 @ 12:01 am
Updated Jul 19, 2008 at 7:06 PM

Here’s some food for thought (much of this is in my book, “And Justice For Some”):

Police told John Ramsey they found black wool sweater fibers inside the underpants JonBenet was wearing when her body was found, fibers that matched the Israeli wool sweater John was wearing on the night in question. Ramsey had no explanation for how the fibers could have gotten there, so he just yelled and filibustered – a common tactic when the suspect doesn’t want to, or can’t, answer a particular question. If the facts were different, he might have said the sweater fibers got there through laundering. But the sweater was never washed – it was wool – and the underpants were three sizes too big and had never been worn before.

http://www.patriotledger.com/x18164...ould-apologize-to-JonBenet-not-to-her-parents

 

[Mama2JML]

August 2000 Patsy Ramsey Atlanta Interview - from a candyrose:

0200
3 MR. LEVIN: I think that is
4 probably fair. Based on the state of the
5 art scientific testing, we believe the fibers
6 from her jacket were found in the paint
7 tray, were found tied into the ligature found
8 on JonBenet's neck, were found on the blanket
9 that she is wrapped in, were found on the
10 duct tape that is found on the mouth, and
11 the question is, can she explain to us how
12 those fibers appeared in those places that
13 are associated with her daughter's death.
14 And I understand you are not going to answer
15 those.


JR's shirt fibers:
0202
8 MR. LEVIN: I understand your
9 position.
10 In addition to those questions,
11 there are some others that I would like you
12 to think about whether or not we can have
13 Mrs. Ramsey perhaps in the future answer. I
14 understand you are advising her not to today,
15 and those are there are black fibers that,
16 according to our testing that was conducted,
17 that match one of the two shirts that was
18 provided to us by the Ramseys, black shirt.
19 Those are located in the
20 underpants of JonBenet Ramsey, were found in
21 her crotch area, and I believe those are two
22 other areas that we have intended to ask
23 Mrs. Ramsey about if she could help us in
24 explaining their presence in those locations.


By Wendy Murphy
Posted Jul. 19, 2008 @ 12:01 am
Updated Jul 19, 2008 at 7:06 PM

Here’s some food for thought (much of this is in my book, “And Justice For Some”):

Police told John Ramsey they found black wool sweater fibers inside the underpants JonBenet was wearing when her body was found, fibers that matched the Israeli wool sweater John was wearing on the night in question. Ramsey had no explanation for how the fibers could have gotten there, so he just yelled and filibustered – a common tactic when the suspect doesn’t want to, or can’t, answer a particular question. If the facts were different, he might have said the sweater fibers got there through laundering. But the sweater was never washed – it was wool – and the underpants were three sizes too big and had never been worn before.

http://www.patriotledger.com/x18164...ould-apologize-to-JonBenet-not-to-her-parents

It seems Levin lied, and Murphy took the bait. IMHO.

 

[Anti-K]

Prosecutors may use deceit during the investigatory stages of a case. I don’t know if Levin lied about the fibers, but I do know that since he was participating in an investigatory interview that such a lie would have been permitted.

Misrepresentation of the evidence is pretty common during interviews of this type. It’s a useful tactic, and it’s the reason why no one should ever consent to being questioned without legal representation.

The evidence we glean from questions asked by police, lawyers, prosecutors, etc. during any and all of the interviews should be treated with some skepticism. Look for corroboration.

The evidence we glean from questions asked during any of the depositions are more likely to be accurate representations, because, the evidence cannot legally be misrepresented in these instances.
...

AK

 

[DeDee]

Prosecutors may use deceit during the investigatory stages of a case. I don’t know if Levin lied about the fibers, but I do know that since he was participating in an investigatory interview that such a lie would have been permitted.

Misrepresentation of the evidence is pretty common during interviews of this type. It’s a useful tactic, and it’s the reason why no one should ever consent to being questioned without legal representation.

The evidence we glean from questions asked by police, lawyers, prosecutors, etc. during any and all of the interviews should be treated with some skepticism. Look for corroboration.

The evidence we glean from questions asked during any of the depositions are more likely to be accurate representations, because, the evidence cannot legally be misrepresented in these instances.
...

AK

Mama2JLM, I have forgotten the question now.

KING: So you're saying police invent things to try to get respondents to respond?

WOOD: That was invented. We know that there were black fibers found, they claim, but there were no black fibers found in the areas of Jon Benet's underwear, as claimed in that question."

There were black fibers at the CS. LE questioned both parents about JRs black Israeli shirt that matched the black wool fibers. Black fibers were present at the CS. LE would not misstate, on purpose, in questioning of both of them, that they matched.

Is there a link of something so the black Israeli made shirt is among fibers unsourced?

Those black fibers were found at the CS on JRs daughter. LE knew they were not going to have many opportunities to question the Rs. As, I recall, as soon as the "kidnapping" became a murder, the Rs did not participate in the investigation w/ BPD.

For me, those fibers are only significant because of their presence where they should not be. If true, it could be that PR rubbed her daughter's area, on purpose and with evil intent, with JRs shirt.

It could mean that JRs fibers are there bc he dressed his daughter in size 12s and urine soaked long john's. If he is the molester, any part of the killing makes him a murderer, too.

J. RAMSEY: Bull (EXPLETIVE DELETED). I don't believe that. I don't buy it. If you're trying to disgrace my relationship with my daughter...

LEVIN: Mr. Ramsey, I'm not trying to...

J. RAMSEY: Well, I don't believe it. That's ridiculous.

L. WOOD: I think you are too, Bruce. Let's move on. Why don't you move on.

J. RAMSEY: That's disgusting.

B. LEVIN: No, I am not.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0211/12/lkl.00.html


John Ramsey was disgusted at being thought of as the possible molester and killer of his child. He felt it was ridiculous that he be even considered in that most disgusting way. JR was horrified, mortified, who knows, but JR was stunned to discover the sex trauma, immhoo.


From the same transcript:


P. RAMSEY: He didn't do it. I didn't do it. Burke didn't do it. We love that child, OK? We're not involved. Read my lips.

Bossy little thing, isn't she? Read my lips like she is the president or something. The Queen. Everyone has seen the Christian interviews w/the Rs. PR is asked a question. She hops a little forward in her chair, wearing a pleasant smile, and softly says, "Oh, this is like the Miss America question!"

WTFR? No, it was not. Not even close. Patsy.

TY to madeleine for posting the aforementioned videos in the media thread.

It has always been all about Patsy Ramsey.

OMO Today

 

[DeDee]

The other day, I noticed in a Larry King transcript that Steve Thomas said he thought this was a rage incident that started in the bathroom with maybe PR slamming JB's head against the tub or something like that. Do you think the tub or sink is likely or do you think he was trying to give PR a benefit of the doubt? If JB was Knocked unconscious in the bathroom, I wonder what accounted for the scream in the basement? I know the test on the sound from the basement wasn't exact science, but I do believe the neighbor lady heard the scream. Confusing stuff as always. moo.

ST took good, solid evidence and formed reasonable logical conclusions, much the same way in which we all do. One area could have been tweaked. ST stayed in the bathroom head injury rage theory too long and wouldn't drop it. But, he knew Patsy was good for it.


Evidence ST held:

mind blowing head, skull and brain injuries.
ligatures on wrists and neck with a broken artist brush attached.
urine stained bed linens.
urine stained long john's.
adult Dr. Seuss book.
sexual assault injuries.
red staining on the pink Barbie gown.
red staining on the pillowcase.
red staining on size 12s.
evidence of being wiped clean.
chit smeared on chocolates.
chit in bottoms too large for JBR.
diapers hanging out of the cabinet for 6yo JonBenet.
white nylon fibers from the strangulating cord were vacuumed from JBRs bed linens.
white blanket from her own bed found wrapped around JBR in the WC.
red JBR shirt rolled in wadded bundle on JBR bathroom countertop.
JBRs left wrist indicated slight red evidence of ligature marking.
abrasions from struggle.
Stun gun type marks.
Mother knew where the red knife found in WC had been hidden.
Mother's red fibers in ligature, on the tape and other intimate places also in paint tote.
the writings about The Pride of Miss Jean Brodie
McReynold's wife wrote stage play about ransom where kidnappers held victim in basement.
the White's daughter was, momentarily, missing but found hiding behind draperies, iirc.
And, a drum roll, please...the Ransom Note.

A jury would convict. Some people get convicted only on a little DNA.

From ST PB53:

On Dec.27, 1996, John Ramsey had 2 lawyers. JR never asked about the murder of his daughter or how she was killed or questions about her AR.

PR does not recognize the "set up".

• the pineapple.
• Kleenex box of tissues on the breakfast table.
• black flashlight photographed on K counter.
• the pocketknife from corner of WC concrete room on hellhole floor near JBR.
• when JonBenet last bathed or changed her panties.
• what JonBenet ate for her last meal.

PR did recognize the pad as one similar to those she used. Duh. JR handed the RN pad to LEO early that morning. "It's an inside job," he said.

None of this evidence points any where near BRs involvement. He is off the radar. Rice cooked. JonBenet will die on Christmas just as her gold bracelet's inscription declares: December 25, 1996.

Maybe PR was overjoyed to fly @ 7:00 for four hours on Dec. 26 to MI before flying back to Boulder to jet to the Big Red Boat in FL for her 40th birthday even though she had already celebrated her 40th with friends extravagantly in Denver. On her actual birthday, she spent planning the final services for JBR.

IMOHO, PR did not wish to go to Charlevoix all that very much. She had other things to occupy her mind. However, the lake home was well decorated at the very last moment. OTOH, having the older children's flight canceled mid-air, as it were, would add even more suspense to the sad but dramatic matter as it unfolded in Boulder. The Rs never arrived for Christmas in Charlevoix.

PR was not all that fond of the idea of hosting the family Christmas party at her home on Dec. 23, until she learned that Charles Kuralt would possibly drop by to film activities. Was the CK story bogus? About the first 911 call that was made that night. Was it bogus, too? FW was supposedly using the house phone and dials 911 in error for 411. When the PO arrives for a wellness check, SS greets but shoos the PO away. Two nights before JonBenet is found dead.

We've seen a pic of JonBenet in a pretty dress having fun decorating a gingerbread house at that party. She looked happy, didn't she? Why didn't she feel pretty two days before she died?

How does a warm, embracing Norman Rockwell image become the Bates Motel? It is difficult to reconcile.

OMO

 

[Mama2JML]

Mama2JLM, I have forgotten the question now.

KING: So you're saying police invent things to try to get respondents to respond?

WOOD: That was invented. We know that there were black fibers found, they claim, but there were no black fibers found in the areas of Jon Benet's underwear, as claimed in that question."

There were black fibers at the CS. LE questioned both parents about JRs black Israeli shirt that matched the black wool fibers. Black fibers were present at the CS. LE would not misstate, on purpose, in questioning of both of them, that they matched.

Is there a link of something so the black Israeli made shirt is among fibers unsourced?

Those black fibers were found at the CS on JRs daughter. LE knew they were not going to have many opportunities to question the Rs. As, I recall, as soon as the "kidnapping" became a murder, the Rs did not participate in the investigation w/ BPD.

For me, those fibers are only significant because of their presence where they should not be. If true, it could be that PR rubbed her daughter's area, on purpose and with evil intent, with JRs shirt.

It could mean that JRs fibers are there bc he dressed his daughter in size 12s and urine soaked long john's. If he is the molester, any part of the killing makes him a murderer, too.

J. RAMSEY: Bull (EXPLETIVE DELETED). I don't believe that. I don't buy it. If you're trying to disgrace my relationship with my daughter...

LEVIN: Mr. Ramsey, I'm not trying to...

J. RAMSEY: Well, I don't believe it. That's ridiculous.

L. WOOD: I think you are too, Bruce. Let's move on. Why don't you move on.

J. RAMSEY: That's disgusting.

B. LEVIN: No, I am not.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0211/12/lkl.00.html


John Ramsey was disgusted at being thought of as the possible molester and killer of his child. He felt it was ridiculous that he be even considered in that most disgusting way. JR was horrified, mortified, who knows, but JR was stunned to discover the sex trauma, immhoo.


From the same transcript:


P. RAMSEY: He didn't do it. I didn't do it. Burke didn't do it. We love that child, OK? We're not involved. Read my lips.

Bossy little thing, isn't she? Read my lips like she is the president or something. The Queen. Everyone has seen the Christian interviews w/the Rs. PR is asked a question. She hops a little forward in her chair, wearing a pleasant smile, and softly says, "Oh, this is like the Miss America question!"

WTFR? No, it was not. Not even close. Patsy.

TY to madeleine for posting the aforementioned videos in the media thread.

It has always been all about Patsy Ramsey.

OMO Today

DeDee, I'm not arguing against the actual existence of black fibers @ the CS. However, I think it is less than likely said fibers were found in the panty area.

From John Ramsey's BPD Interview 2000:

LEVIN: Mr. Ramsey, it is our belief, based on forensic testing that there are hairs that are associated -- that the source is the collared black shirt that you sent to us that are found in your daughter's underpants, and I want to refute... ​

Lin Wood on LKL, 11.12.02:

WOOD: I know for a fact that the information was not true in terms of the location of those fibers.

...

WOOD: That was invented. We know that there were black fibers found, they claim, but there were no black fibers found in the areas of Jon Benet's underwear, as claimed in that question.​

Excerpt from the Bonita Papers:

"During the vaginal examination, small dark colored fibers were found on JonBenet’s external labia. A faint area of purple discoloration was noted on the right labia major. Vascular congestion was found along the inner membrane of the vaginal vault, and red water fluid, appearing to be blood, was present. The hymeneal opening had a mild abrasion, and the hymen appeared to have been torn. Dr. Meyer noted that the trauma to JonBenet’s vaginal area was consistent with digital, rather than penile penetration. He was not able to determine if there had been previous trauma to the vaginal area. Dr. Meyer stated that it appeared that JonBenet’s pubic area may have been cleaned, or at least wiped by someone using a towel or piece of clothing. Small dark blue fibers, consistent with a cotton towel, were recovered from the vaginal area."​

 

[Venom]

Dr. Meyer stated that it appeared that JonBenet’s pubic area may have been cleaned, or at least wiped by someone using a towel or piece of clothing. Small dark blue fibers, consistent with a cotton towel, were recovered from the vaginal area."

I wonder if the R's towels were ever looked at?

 

[questfortrue]

I wonder if the R's towels were ever looked at?

It’s never been stated. This is something I’ve also wondered about, especially in light of the party from the 23rd. PR had the kids building ginger bread houses, with candies such as sugar-coated gum drops or similar sugar-coated sweet treats. I wondered if one of the kids licked his fingers and dried them on a hand towel, or drank some punch and wiped his mouth. If the towel were in the basement laundry area, perhaps it was used to wipe JB? It would make sense the R’s cleaned up the ginger bread house staging area and removed towels to the basement, or even had hand towels already in the bathroom down there.

 

[DeeDee249]

I wonder if the R's towels were ever looked at?

It was also said that JR owned a dark (navy?) terry bathrobe, which was found in the den- an odd place for a bathrobe. Usually you'd find it in a bathroom or dressing room, or bedroom- wherever you shower or bathe and put it on, or get dressed and take it off. Neither of these activities are likely in a den.

 

[DeDee]

It’s never been stated. This is something I’ve also wondered about, especially in light of the party from the 23rd. PR had the kids building ginger bread houses, with candies such as sugar-coated gum drops or similar sugar-coated sweet treats. I wondered if one of the kids licked his fingers and dried them on a hand towel, or drank some punch and wiped his mouth. If the towel were in the basement laundry area, perhaps it was used to wipe JB? It would make sense the R’s cleaned up the ginger bread house staging area and removed towels to the basement, or even had hand towels already in the bathroom down there.

:seeya: questfortrue!

When considering the condition of the entire basement level of the Ramsey home, by PR, the basement was treated without respect. Exception was LHP maintained the laundry area. Burke enjoyed his train track space that was built on a regular size, 9' x 5', ping pong table.

Otherwise, the basement was a dumping ground. Crap is everywhere. The upstairs bathrooms, in the sections of the home that the Ramsey's updated before moving in, did not have toilet paper holders. At least two toilets in the home at TOD, the basement bathroom toilet and JonBenet's bathroom, held human excretion that had not been flushed.

This image shows the deplorable basement bathroom toilet area with a pre-existing toilet paper holder. Guest towels are not seen except for the bluish towel or fabric wadded on the floor. The basement's shower was used to store more Christmas decorations.

Can I surmise that LE removed the toilet's tank portion during their CS inspections and the Rs did not maintain a basement bathroom with a disassembled toilet?

Or is the disassembled toilet set up in this CS image just as the bathroom always presented subsequent to December 26?

Wasn't there also excrement in the bottoms belonging to BR on the floor in JBRs bedroom and a layer of it on a box of chocolate candy? Crap is everywhere. What does it mean and what is significant about the Rs household behavior behind closed doors?


OMO Please remove image and insert as url.

 

[gramcracker]

I owned a housecleaning business for many years. I had three crews and and 30-35 accounts. 80% of my clientele was very similar to the Rs in terms of income and lifestyle. I never once saw a home, at any income level, that was in such disarray and disorder behind the scenes and also so slovenly in the main living areas. drawers standing open, the floors littered with discarded clothing, not even one clothes hamper in the house, grapefruit-size feces in the bed, unflushed toilets, toilet paper not placed conveniently for a small child to reach/use, etc. it creeps me out

:what:

you learn a lot about psychology in that kind of business. I would have created an excuse not to accept a client like that because I wouldn't feel right about placing my employees in that environment

 

[questfortrue]

:seeya: questfortrue!

RSBM
This image shows the deplorable basement bathroom toilet area with a pre-existing toilet paper holder. Guest towels are not seen except for the bluish towel or fabric wadded on the floor. The basement's shower was used to store more Christmas decorations.
RSBM

Nope, no pretty little basement bathroom here. IIRC, LE did dismantle the toilet to search for evidence which might have been flushed in this bathroom. A towel or rag could have come from anywhere, including the garage. (Guessing we all know the answer to your question about the state of the house!) My point was simply to speculate about where a rag/towel might have come from, and where kids played. This was in consideration about a rag/washcloth/towel which might have been used to clean JB and possibly left trace DNA which mixed with her blood. Just an idea.

 

[otg]

:seeya: questfortrue!

When considering the condition of the entire basement level of the Ramsey home, by PR, the basement was treated without respect. Exception was LHP maintained the laundry area. Burke enjoyed his train track space that was built on a regular size, 9' x 5', ping pong table.

Otherwise, the basement was a dumping ground. Crap is everywhere. The upstairs bathrooms, in the sections of the home that the Ramsey's updated before moving in, did not have toilet paper holders. At least two toilets in the home at TOD, the basement bathroom toilet and JonBenet's bathroom, held human excretion that had not been flushed.

This image shows the deplorable basement bathroom toilet area with a pre-existing toilet paper holder. Guest towels are not seen except for the bluish towel or fabric wadded on the floor. The basement's shower was used to store more Christmas decorations.

Can I surmise that LE removed the toilet's tank portion during their CS inspections and the Rs did not maintain a basement bathroom with a disassembled toilet?

Or is the disassembled toilet set up in this CS image just as the bathroom always presented subsequent to December 26?

Wasn't there also excrement in the bottoms belonging to BR on the floor in JBRs bedroom and a layer of it on a box of chocolate candy? Crap is everywhere. What does it mean and what is significant about the Rs household behavior behind closed doors?


OMO Please remove image and insert as url.

The toilet was disassembled to look for evidence that might have been flushed. If I'm not mistaken (it does happen occasionally), blood evidence (if present) will show up with luminol.

The area with a crumpled towel is where a section of carpet was removed by CSIs because of something that showed up (it's circled in red). So my guess is that the towel was something brought by CSIs for their purposes (since it's laid on top of the removed carpet area).

Just to add to your list of "deplorable" conditions, there was a discussion in the 1998 interview that indicates (IMO) there may still have been some fecal smearing on the wall just outside this toilet. If you don't remember it, let me know and I'll post it.

 

[DeDee]

<rsbm>

* The area with a crumpled towel is where a section of carpet was removed by CSIs because of something that showed up (it's circled in red). So my guess is that the towel was something brought by CSIs for their purposes (since it's laid on top of the removed carpet area).

<rsbm>

* What does this indicate? Can one person do all of that dumping and smearing at will? Or is it the work of two ppl? An altered toilet tank, with carpet cut away in a wide circle. 3 CSI forensic items could possibly be found on the carpet:

1) Urine.
2) Blood. Although JBR did not bleed immensely from her vaginal injuries.
3) Feces. There is more nasty crap all over this house and only 4 people lived there. It was in their past history, too. It was unflushed in their home. It was in BRs bottoms, JBRs smeared underwear and black "play" pants, the layer on the box of chocolate candy in JonBenet's bdrm, and now I learn there is more smeared across the wall outside of the basement bathroom.

WSs, we are fortunate the RN was written with a black Sharpie and not with feces.


OMO

 

[otg]

(sbm)

WSs, we are fortunate the RN was written with a black Sharpie and not with feces.

:floorlaugh:

(Fortunately for my keyboard and monitor, I didn't have anything in my mouth when I read that.)

 

[UKGuy]

* What does this indicate? Can one person do all of that dumping and smearing at will? Or is it the work of two ppl? An altered toilet tank, with carpet cut away in a wide circle. 3 CSI forensic items could possibly be found on the carpet:

1) Urine.
2) Blood. Although JBR did not bleed immensely from her vaginal injuries.
3) Feces. There is more nasty crap all over this house and only 4 people lived there. It was in their past history, too. It was unflushed in their home. It was in BRs bottoms, JBRs smeared underwear and black "play" pants, the layer on the box of chocolate candy in JonBenet's bdrm, and now I learn there is more smeared across the wall outside of the basement bathroom.

WSs, we are fortunate the RN was written with a black Sharpie and not with feces.


OMO

DeDee,
I posted on this topic recently suggesting they might all be linked, and this could be why the toilet was removed, i.e. to find a match to any feces upstairs, else why bother?

Another thought: was the feces in JonBenet's bedroom directly linked to her sexual assault?

It would not surprise me to find out this smearing behaviour is written up in one or both of the childrens medical records, particularly when you consider both children had bedwetting issues, etc?





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[chlban]

I owned a housecleaning business for many years. I had three crews and and 30-35 accounts. 80% of my clientele was very similar to the Rs in terms of income and lifestyle. I never once saw a home, at any income level, that was in such disarray and disorder behind the scenes and also so slovenly in the main living areas. drawers standing open, the floors littered with discarded clothing, not even one clothes hamper in the house, grapefruit-size feces in the bed, unflushed toilets, toilet paper not placed conveniently for a small child to reach/use, etc. it creeps me out

:what:

you learn a lot about psychology in that kind of business. I would have created an excuse not to accept a client like that because I wouldn't feel right about placing my employees in that environment

Agreed, but I think it is also interesting that she put up all those trees and decoration, and showed off her home,at least the areas selected as some type of showplace. I think the house is quite like the family. Only the "Pretty" was shown for public view, but the reality was a hot mess.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Agreed, but I think it is also interesting that she put up all those trees and decoration, and showed off her home,at least the areas selected as some type of showplace. I think the house is quite like the family. Only the "Pretty" was shown for public view, but the reality was a hot mess.

Steaming...


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[DeDee]

The Globe receives the prize for the most outlandish story for its treatment of seven pictures of the Ramseys. The tabloid says the "exclusive photographs" were taken outside a Boulder church where the Ramseys "prayed for the soul of their murdered 6-year-old daughter." They show the mother, father and son walking on a sidewalk.

Globe editors asked a Maxine Fiel, identified as a respected authority on body language, to analyze the family. She concludes "after careful examination" of seven pictures that John Ramsey is cold, cruel and calculating.

"He keeps his hands in his pockets Ñ a sign of someone who does not want to be in contact with anyone. He jabs his hands so deeply into his pocket, indicating he is very sexual in his behavior." Fiel goes on: Mrs. Ramsey knows a horrible truth about her daughter's death. "In photo 3 her head is down and her hands are clasped viselike in front of her body as if she's holding on to a terrible secret and just can't let go." And Fiel points out that Mrs. Ramsey doesn't look at her husband as she walks beside him.
"She is merely a fixture by his side and accepts this role. She dares not let go or leave her man's side because she has no life or identity without him. But she has no feeling, no love for her husband."
"Her whole life revolves around her children." Fiel also says, "The son stays close to his mother and never has any interaction with the father. . . . The boy stays clear of his father as if he's fearful of him. "He's definitely a momma's boy." Burke appears in four of the seven pictures. In three, he's nearer to his father than his mother. In a case so mysterious, with so many unanswered questions, body language analysis is offered as a substitute for evidence, testimony or eye-witness accounts. In a court of law - or even a court of public opinion - it's hardly worth the paper it's printed on.

~ Ed Will

http://extras.denverpost.com/news/jon34.htm

 

[DeDee]

(Page 101): "The Ramseys themselves haven't spoken publicly since their May 1 press conference to a handpicked group of reporters--dubbed an infomercial by some in the media--with one notable exception. On Sept. 2 Patsy was watching Larry King Live. In the wake of Princess Diana's death (Aug. 31, 1997), King was hosting a celebrity rant against stalkerazzi, and Patsy charged headlong into the fray.

"She jumped out of her chair and started calling," Nedra reports, "I said, "What are you going to say?" She said, "The Lord will direct my words." King took her call, and she launched into an on-air diatribe castigating the tabs: "I would ask in the memory of my daughter, JonBenet, America's people's princess--and the beautiful people's princess of Great Britain--to ask everyone worldwide to boycott."

http://www.acandyrose.com/s-jonbenet-pageants.htm

On Sept. 2 Patsy was watching Larry King Live. In the wake of Princess Diana's death, King was hosting a celebrity rant against stalkerazzi, and Patsy charged headlong into the fray. "She jumped out of her chair and started calling," Nedra reports, "I said, "What are you going to say?" She said, "The Lord will direct my words." King took her call, and she launched into an on-air diatribe castigating the tabs: "I would ask in the memory of my daughter, JonBenet, America's people's princess--and the beautiful people's princess of Great Britain--to ask everyone worldwide to boycott."

People Magazine, October 6, 1997, 'Mom and Dad Under Suspicion'
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