Kaine wishes the MFH plot would have gone through

  • #21
Thanks tlcox and WhyaDuck. That's what I thought too but I deleted what I wrote about it because you expressed it way better. "I'll just turn the knife in your wound one more time if you don't mind... So what do you think about the idea that it's your fault this happened to your family?"
 
  • #22
BBM

That is an extremely unfair question, I agree, and one that really needn't be asked, as I think we can all guess the answer since KH seems to believe TH killed his son.

Forcing him to admit, on record, in clear words, that he regrets ever having the mother of his other child in his life is really unfair to the whole family, IMO.

Nothing like a kick in the ribs when someone is down, eh?


ETA: Moved from other thread now that I have found this one.

I agree. The question is completely inappropriate to ask, and crass to publish.

Hats off to Kaine for handling it with such dignity and grace.
 
  • #23
As my mum says of her lost children, "Parents are supposed to die first."

When my son passes, I hope I am safely, happily in my grave. It might be cowardly, but who wants to outlive their kids?

I can see why KH would wish this, on several levels.
 
  • #24
I can't quite figure out how wishing the MFH plot was real and successful is the same as being positive for Kyron. Does this also jibe with his statements about not being aware of most everything?
 
  • #25
I cannot imagine how it would feel to come home from work looking forward to the week end, then finding out my child was missing. Then several days later finding out the person I was married to and shared a marital bed with had actually been looking for someone to murder me just 6 months prior. That is almost too much for a person to deal with and stay sane.

I understand Kaines' feeling of guilt, and really how he might wish Terri's plan had gone forward rather than Kyron being missing. Wouldn't we all trade places if it were our child? I know I would. Kyron would have gone to live with Desiree and Tony had anything happened to Kaine.

What I CANNOT understand is how anyone can hurt a child, or stash him with someone in order to hurt Kaine and Desiree. And I do believe Terri ( maybe others as well) to be responsible for Kyron's disappearance.

Prayers for Kyron, Desiree, Tony, Kaine, and Baby K. I pray for a miracle.

JMO
 
  • #26
I get the feeling this has nothing to do with helping Kyron at all.
 
  • #27
I get the feeling this has nothing to do with helping Kyron at all.

The only thing in my mind that constitutes helping Kyron is searching for him, which obviously is not being done at least on a physical level.
 
  • #28
I can't quite figure out how wishing the MFH plot was real and successful is the same as being positive for Kyron. Does this also jibe with his statements about not being aware of most everything?
imhoo Kaine thinks Kyron being taken was done to hurt him. I believe he is saying that if he had been murdered Kyron would be safe. IMHOO
 
  • #29
I'm just glad Baby K isn't old enough to read any nit-picking of her grieving father's expression of pain.
 
  • #30
Very sad. My heart breaks for him. If this is what she wanted, how sick and disgusting. A child's life meant nothing more to her than a tool to hurt someone with. I am just nauseated right now.

And that one comment under the article was WAY harsh. Wow. I'm glad we don't say stuff like that at WS.

Looks like a couple people left some not-too-nice comments. What a mean thing to say about grieving parents.

I am heartbroken for Kaine, too. His mind has got to be full of the "if I'd only done/not done" a zillion different things -- I can't even imagine what utter torment it must be for him, DY and TY. :(
 
  • #31
Something I was thinking about was Desiree's position. She is pregnant, her husband cheats on her and ends up marrying that woman. Then she gets horribly sick and has to entrust her baby to the woman who helped end her marriage. And now that child is missing.

This whole thing is tragic!
 
  • #32
ewww. The questions posed by reporters are so galling to me. This is why I could never get into journalism. I find the whole "tell me Ms Doe, after watching your 3 year old child fall off the cliff to her death, do you regret planning your camping trip here near the grand canyon?" SO distasteful and ghoulish.

"Some have suggested that a 3 year old is probably too young to involved in a camping vacation. In light of the days tragic outcome, how do you resond to that?"

truly slimy. IMO


moved from another Kyron thread as this one is more ON topic for this post.
 
  • #33
imhoo Kaine thinks Kyron being taken was done to hurt him. I believe he is saying that if he had been murdered Kyron would be safe. IMHOO

I guess I don't see how a child is better off with his father having been murdered as the other option. I could see if he expressed regret for not reading the signs better, for not being a more attentive father and husband so that he'd be on track with the signs of a crazed wife (my words but the intent of all of Kaine's words of late are to paint a picture of a crazed woman). I am merely wondering how being dead would be better for Kyron if Kyron were still at home.
 
  • #34
I guess I don't see how a child is better off with his father having been murdered as the other option. I could see if he expressed regret for not reading the signs better, for not being a more attentive father and husband so that he'd be on track with the signs of a crazed wife (my words but the intent of all of Kaine's words of late are to paint a picture of a crazed woman). I am merely wondering how being dead would be better for Kyron if Kyron were still at home.

I think that all he meant was that he'd rather it would've been him that faced harm/death than Kyron. He'd give his life for his child.

My baby is teething right now and I often tell her that I wish I could take the pain for her... same intention, I think (although CLEARLY not anywhere near the same level, not trying to equate the situations in terms of severity). JMO.
 
  • #35
Incredibly sad.

Kaine, remember that if the MFH plot had gone through, although Kyron would have gone to live with Desiree, baby K would not have had you there for her. And she definitely needs her dad's love to get through the life that's ahead of her.
 
  • #36
Maybe he thought "if it was the choice between him dying or me dying I would rather it was me"
Of course both his children would be worse off with their father murdered but many parents have expressed the above thought at some point when something bad happens to their child.
 
  • #37
I get the feeling this has nothing to do with helping Kyron at all.

Kyron more than likely, statistic wise is not alive anymore, and the woman his father trusted with him is lying, and also was looking to kill Kaine months back, she also failed lie detector tests and walked out of one, so in the broad scheme of things, I would be more worried about that kind of behavior than the grieving honest words of he father of a missing child. Its obvious he wished he would have been killed so that the son would have went to his mother, call me crazy, but I find that pretty sad. jmo
 
  • #38
I'm just glad Baby K isn't old enough to read any nit-picking of her grieving father's expression of pain.

Unfortunatly, unless something greater comes forward and the cyber-world disappears, Baby K is going to be able to read everyone's words, including what everyone is saying about her mother.
 
  • #39
I guess I don't see how a child is better off with his father having been murdered as the other option. I could see if he expressed regret for not reading the signs better, for not being a more attentive father and husband so that he'd be on track with the signs of a crazed wife (my words but the intent of all of Kaine's words of late are to paint a picture of a crazed woman). I am merely wondering how being dead would be better for Kyron if Kyron were still at home.

Although it would be horrible to have one's father die, especially if it were discovered to be the result of a murder orchestrated by the stepmother, Kyron could still experience the love and protection of DY and TY. He could eventually get past the enormous loss and grow up to have a happy life in the long run.

As horrible as it would be, it would be better than being murdered at the age of 7.
 
  • #40
I guess I don't see how a child is better off with his father having been murdered as the other option. I could see if he expressed regret for not reading the signs better, for not being a more attentive father and husband so that he'd be on track with the signs of a crazed wife (my words but the intent of all of Kaine's words of late are to paint a picture of a crazed woman). I am merely wondering how being dead would be better for Kyron if Kyron were still at home.

His mind's probably going twenty directions at once trying to process everything, but my take is that he sometimes feels like if that plot had been successful, he would be out of the way and she wouldn't have used Kyron to try to hurt him (as he may wonder or believe she did), and/or Kyron would've been living with DY and out of TH's reach.
 

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