Kansas teen won't apologize to governor's office for Twitter post

[Fairy1]

Honestly, if we're more concerned with her grammar and language, that's a topic for another thread altogether. I am horrified by most people's inability to spell and construct a proper sentence. There are high ranking executives in my own large corporation who cannot write an internal e-mail without glaring errors.

Perhaps we should take to task the state governors who are slashing education budgets. I know my own state governor has done so.

This is not a partisan issue. It's an American issue.

 

[Chewy]

This tweet went out to 60 people the girl knew. It's not her problem if somebody on the governor's staff searched through tweets, found it and freaked out.

Which is what I'm guessing they did, since they felt the need to figure out where she attended school, call up the school, rat her out about said tweet, and discuss an apology from her via the school.

Thin skinned - um, yeah, little bit. I don't care about her language - it's her right to use it. If you think she's vulgar, I would suggest not following her on twitter. Very simple.

Why should some people tell me how to speak or type on my twitter account? If you think the word is vulgar, don't use it.

The girls stated that she said to him IN PERSON. If she just tweeted it, it would be one thing, but she said it to him in person.

 

[Chewy]

Low class common people who are easily manipulated by the media? Is that really what you think of people who disagree with your opinion?

None of the other situations occurring in the world today are unimportant, but this thread is about one specific topic, so it's no wonder that most of the comments have centered on that topic.

As an upper middle class, educated and politically aware adult, I can be interested in MANY topics at once. I believe that cases in which a government official seeks to stifle the opinions of USA citizens IS a threat to the consitutional rights.

You are free to disagree, and I'm not going to insinuate that you are low class, uneducated, "common" or easily manipulated if you do.

Please do NOT put words in my post that are not there. First of all I said a sociology professor pointed this out years ago about UNEDUCATED Americans with sweet all nothing going on in there lives.

WHERE is the word "low class" in there?

I said the use of the word is in my opinion low class and I think it's even more low class for parents to use it with their kids and act like it is ok. If you have common decency you wouldn't use it.

That is my opinion and I am allowed to have that opinion just as you are allowed to disagree with me.

I did not say what you just wrote above. So why did you even waste time writing it.

My sociology professor pointed out the way media will focus on some mundane topic and people get all drawn into it and ignore the real issues in the world.

And that happens all the time.

The key here to me, is that this girl was rude and low class. Period the end. People who got upset with her got upset because she was rude.


The people trying to turn this into an issue of the Constitution or an issue of freedom of speech are in my opinion being histrionic.

The girl was asked to apologize. They didn't ask her to take it down, she wasn't censored, she wasn't punished, basically they said it was rude and asked her to apologize.

This is a normal reaction to someone being rude. An apology. And it's about having class in a situation which obviously the girl did not.

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with a violation of the first amendment.

 

[TrackerSam]

The girls stated that she said to him IN PERSON. If she just tweeted it, it would be one thing, but she said it to him in person.

The girl posted that she said it, but it turns out that was an embellishment for the benefit of her friends, to whom the tweet was sent. She didn't say it to him in person. The governor and his staff never said she did as evidenced by his stament "My staff over-reacted to this tweet, and for that I apologize. Freedom of speech is among our most treasured freedoms,” Brownback said in a statement posted on his Facebook ".

And to quote you - "But HEY let's get up in arms about a teenager who got in trouble for being rude on her twitter account. THE CONSTITUTION IS AT STAKE."

 

[Chewy]

The girl posted that she said it, but it turns out that was an embellishment for the benefit of her friends, to whom the tweet was sent. She didn't say it to him in person. The governor and his staff never said she did as evidenced by his stament "My staff over-reacted to this tweet, and for that I apologize. Freedom of speech is among our most treasured freedoms,” Brownback said in a statement posted on his Facebook ".

And to quote you - "But HEY let's get up in arms about a teenager who got in trouble for being rude on her twitter account. THE CONSTITUTION IS AT STAKE."

OK then she's a liar on top of everything else.


This has nothing to do with the first amendment or constitution.

She was rude and they asked her to apologize and she said no.

Since when is asking someone to apologize for being rude a violation of freedom of speech?

The reason the Governor replied that way is because of all the people out there making a federal case out of nothing.

The girl was not censored or punished for her comments. She was simply asked to apologize and she refused.

Just because people want to turn this into something that it's not does NOT make it true.

 

[raeann]

The girl posted that she said it, but it turns out that was an embellishment for the benefit of her friends, to whom the tweet was sent. She didn't say it to him in person. The governor and his staff never said she did as evidenced by his stament "My staff over-reacted to this tweet, and for that I apologize. Freedom of speech is among our most treasured freedoms,” Brownback said in a statement posted on his Facebook ".

And to quote you - "But HEY let's get up in arms about a teenager who got in trouble for being rude on her twitter account. THE CONSTITUTION IS AT STAKE."

So, then, it turns out that this girl was not just being rude and vulgar.....she was also lying.....

Even more reason to show some level of class and apologize for all of the above.

jmo

 

[Chewy]

I have two teenage boys in Brooklyn NY and they would never say such a thing about an adult. They don't use trashy language. But if they did, you can bet I'd make them apologize immediately. Obviously this girl has not been raised with any sort of common decency or manners.

 

[Chewy]

This tweet went out to 60 people the girl knew. It's not her problem if somebody on the governor's staff searched through tweets, found it and freaked out.

Which is what I'm guessing they did, since they felt the need to figure out where she attended school, call up the school, rat her out about said tweet, and discuss an apology from her via the school.

Thin skinned - um, yeah, little bit. I don't care about her language - it's her right to use it. If you think she's vulgar, I would suggest not following her on twitter. Very simple.

Why should some people tell me how to speak or type on my twitter account? If you think the word is vulgar, don't use it.

Did you read any of the information? They didn't need to figure out what school she attended. She was on a field trip sponsored by the school and the Governor took time out of his day to meet with the students and deliver a speech.

 

[TrackerSam]

OK then she's a liar on top of everything else.


This has nothing to do with the first amendment or constitution.

She was rude and they asked her to apologize and she said no.

Since when is asking someone to apologize for being rude a violation of freedom of speech?

The reason the Governor replied that way is because of all the people out there making a federal case out of nothing.

The girl was not censored or punished for her comments. She was simply asked to apologize and she refused.

Just because people want to turn this into something that it's not does NOT make it true.

Wrong again. She was not "asked" to write an apology, she was told she "had" to write an apology as this quote from the original posted link claims; " the principal told her she had to write an apology to the governor."
Had the governor's thin skinned staff not taken offense, there would be no story. This whole debacle back fired on the gov., a "federal case" that he initiated.
Since she didn't say anything directly to him, she couldn't possibly be guilty of rude behavior.
After you posted that she "tweeted" her comments about him, you then posted that she said it directly to him. Are you trying to turn it into something that it's not?

 

[Chewy]

So where is the apology?

Semantics at this late of the game is ridiculous. She wasn't punished for refusing to write an apology. So obviously she didn't HAVE to do it. She was ASKED to do it and refused.


Again, since WHEN is it a violation of the Constitution to ask someone to apologize for being rude?

Seriously. LOL

Also I thought she just wrote the tweet, I took it to mean she thought he sucked and then meeting him in person should could see that he blowed.

But then watching her interview the way she phrased the sentence you could see she meant she said it to him in person. We found out now she lied.

But that's what got a lot of people disgusted. That she thought it was cool to tell the Governor to his face that he sucked and blowed.

Turns out she's a liar as well as being trashy.

 

[TrackerSam]

I have two teenage boys in Brooklyn NY and they would never say such a thing about an adult. They don't use trashy language. But if they did, you can bet I'd make them apologize immediately. Obviously this girl has not been raised with any sort of common decency or manners.

Why would you "make them" apologize instead of merely "asking" them to apologize? :groucho:

 

[Chewy]

Why would you "make them" apologize instead of merely "asking" them to apologize? :groucho:

Because I'm their mother. And my kids know better than to do something this disgusting. They wouldn't dare.

And if they did dare, I'd stand over them and force them to write an apology.

I have that right.


The school obviously doesn't.

 

[kgeaux]

OK then she's a liar on top of everything else.


This has nothing to do with the first amendment or constitution.

She was rude and they asked her to apologize and she said no.

Since when is asking someone to apologize for being rude a violation of freedom of speech?

The reason the Governor replied that way is because of all the people out there making a federal case out of nothing.

The girl was not censored or punished for her comments. She was simply asked to apologize and she refused.

Just because people want to turn this into something that it's not does NOT make it true.

Who was she told to apologize to? Was she told to apologize to the school for tweeting while on a school trip? Nope. Was she told to apologize to her 64 twitter followers? Nope.

She was told to apologize to the governor for something she said about him, not to him.

Whether she was rude or not, or used language that some people feel is derogatory or ugly, she is entitled to her opinion.

The reason I believe that a threat to the constitution, albiet a small one, existed is twofold.

#1, government officials searched for posts which mentioned the governor, and then took action to contact the girl's school and demand an apology. I don't mind government officials searching the internet for posts concerning public servants---it is a good tool for the government to see what the public thinks of the job they are doing. It's a whole different ballgame for the government to then try to control what people are saying by then attempting to take punitive action.

#2. The governor himself has now admitted that freedom of speech is a treasured right, and that his office over-reacted.

I think this girl could have chosen a better time to tweet, and certainly could have expressed herself much more clearly about why she feels the governor sucks! But she is entitled to be able to freely express her opinion on her twitter account, and she shouldn't be punished for doing so.

 

[Chewy]

Who was she told to apologize to? Was she told to apologize to the school for tweeting while on a school trip? Nope. Was she told to apologize to her 64 twitter followers? Nope.

She was told to apologize to the governor for something she said about him, not to him.

Whether she was rude or not, or used language that some people feel is derogatory or ugly, she is entitled to her opinion.

The reason I believe that a threat to the constitution, albiet a small one, existed is twofold.

#1, government officials searched for posts which mentioned the governor, and then took action to contact the girl's school and demand an apology. I don't mind government officials searching the internet for posts concerning public servants---it is a good tool for the government to see what the public thinks of the job they are doing. It's a whole different ballgame for the government to then try to control what people are saying by then attempting to take punitive action.

#2. The governor himself has now admitted that freedom of speech is a treasured right, and that his office over-reacted.

I think this girl could have chosen a better time to tweet, and certainly could have expressed herself much more clearly about why she feels the governor sucks! But she is entitled to be able to freely express her opinion on her twitter account, and she shouldn't be punished for doing so. BBM SHE WASN'T. Asking someone to apologize is NOT a punishment.

Exactly. So it has nothing to do with her constitutional rights being violated. If she was FORCED to apologize then maybe you'd have a point. If she was punished for it, then maybe it would make sense. The Governor's office did not demand an apology. I live next door to a Highschool and I've gone over there quite a few times to let them know when their students come to my property and smoke cigarettes and throw garbage. They have apologized to me as well. I didn't "demand" the apology, the school asked them to.......because it's common decency.

Frankly IMO the reason the Governor apologized is to get it out of the papers because there are so many idiots out there twisting this into an issue about civil rights when it's got nothing to do with it.


Why was she asked? Because she was on a school trip when she did it, BECAUSE SHE SAID SHE SAID IT TO HIM.......something everyone keeps ignoring for some reason. And because she's a teenager and he's an adult and it was disrespectful.

Honestly I don't get the confusion here. LOL :crazy::twocents:

 

[Kimberlyd125]

It has to do with a governors office being a little too sensitive to what a high school senior does. She has a right to her opinion. She has a right to post on HER twitter about what she wants to. She even has a right to embellish her story.

IMO this is a bunch of adults trying to make an example out of a high school student. In turn, it made them look like arses.

I'm glad she didn't apologize.

 

[Chewy]

It has to do with a governors office being a little too sensitive to what a high school senior does. She has a right to her opinion. She has a right to post on HER twitter about what she wants to. She even has a right to embellish her story.

IMO this is a bunch of adults trying to make an example out of a high school student. In turn, it made them look like arses.

I'm glad she didn't apologize.

She has a right to be low class and a liar. Heck everyone does. It doesn't mean if you disagree with her behavior you don't support freedom of speech.

IMO it is dramatizing a very simple issue. She has a right to be rude. The school has a right to ask her to apologize. She has a right to refuse. That is all that happened here.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

She has a right to be low class and a liar. Heck everyone does. It doesn't mean if you disagree with her behavior you don't support freedom of speech.

IMO it is dramatizing a very simple issue. She has a right to be rude. The school has a right to ask her to apologize. She has a right to refuse. That is all that happened here.

My gosh! Again with the low class.

Nothing about her actions points to "low class".

IMO typical 18 year old.

So if your child tweets or posts to facebook the word sucks, then he or she is low class?

I'm sorry that makes no sense to me.

It has nothing to do with class.
Isn't judging someone's "class" bigotry? Stereotyping? Intolerant?

You may not use the word. Some people do.

Can you define low class?
Middle class?
High class?

Can they be defined by a tweet?

I think not.

JMO

 

[AnaTeresa]

I really don't think "class" has anything to do with this. One can debate the constitutional merits, or the necessity of the governor's staff monitoring Twitter, or whether the school has a right to enforce certain behaviors from its students - however, in my opinion, this has very little to do with whether Emma is "low class" or not. Frankly, I find that people who use the term "low class," particularly in a derogatory manner, about someone else say far more about themselves than the person they are speaking of.

 

[Chewy]

I really don't think "class" has anything to do with this. One can debate the constitutional merits, or the necessity of the governor's staff monitoring Twitter, or whether the school has a right to enforce certain behaviors from its students - however, in my opinion, this has very little to do with whether Emma is "low class" or not. Frankly, I find that people who use the term "low class," particularly in a derogatory manner, about someone else say far more about themselves than the person they are speaking of.

Touche! :floorlaugh:


Of course you are entitled to your opinion. I just find it tiring to watch "low class" people suddenly become internet stars because people want to defend their "right" to be crude.

 

[Chewy]

My gosh! Again with the low class.

Nothing about her actions points to "low class".

IMO typical 18 year old.

So if your child tweets or posts to facebook the word sucks, then he or she is low class?

I'm sorry that makes no sense to me.

It has nothing to do with class.
Isn't judging someone's "class" bigotry? Stereotyping? Intolerant?

You may not use the word. Some people do.

Can you define low class?
Middle class?
High class?

Can they be defined by a tweet?

I think not.

JMO

Low class means behavior and again I'm sure you know what it means.

I didn't define her by her "tweet" I defined her by her lying, refusing to apologize for crude and crass language directed to an adult.

IMO it's low class to act this way.

What in the world do you think "low class" means? I'm actually trying to put it mildly.

low-class (lkls)
adj.
1. Of or relating to the lower socioeconomic classes.
2. Vulgar or crude; common: was put off by their low-class behavior.

What is so confusing? :crazy::waitasec::waitasec: