Karr's psychological profile on Wendy Hutchen's site...OMG!

[less0305]

Did Wendy Hutchens write this? It sounds as if she wrote this. I didn't see Larry King last night, but was it stated on the show who wrote this profile?

 

[LovelyPigeon]

Larry King show 8/24 with guests Wendy Hutchens and "her long-time friend A.J. Fardella...Mr. Fardella is a criminal investigator working with various government departments."

KING:...Wendy, when did you first have contact with John Mark Karr?

WENDY HUTCHENS, INFORMANT IN 2001 INVESTIGATION OF KARR: In March of 2001.

KING: What was the occasion? HUTCHENS: It just so happened to be a matter of timing. I had gotten a hold of Richard Allen Davis to kind of clear up an incident that happened in my childhood. We lived in the same town.

KING: He killed?

HUTCHENS: I was...

KING: Polly.

HUTCHENS: Yes, he killed Polly Klaas and I was curious about something that happened to my babysitter and John Davis was the one that had the answer, so I happened to contact him at the same time that John Mark Karr was trying to contact him.

KING: And did you call John Mark Karr, he called you?

HUTCHENS: Well, we actually both met a woman by the name of Barbara Gale (ph) who runs a visiting death row inmates' website and she hooked us up.

KING: First impression?

HUTCHENS: Of John, originally from the e-mails he seemed to be honest in what he was saying and I agreed to talk to him on the phone and we talked the first time for almost three and a half hours. And, at the end of that conversation I realized that he was a very disturbed individual and that I needed to alert the authorities.

KING: Why was he talking to you?

HUTCHENS: He was hoping to get Richard Allen Davis to be his spokesman.

KING: His spokesman?

HUTCHENS: Yes.

KING: The serial killer?

HUTCHENS: Yes.

KING: I mean the killer of a young girl.

HUTCHENS: Yes. He thought it...

KING: Spokesman for what?

HUTCHENS: Well, he thought if he could get Richard Allen Davis to confess that he loved Polly Klaas and that's why he did what he did to her that then John Mark Karr could go around on talk shows and stuff and spread the word that we should forgive Richard Allen Davis and that these men aren't bad.

KING: When did you start taping him?

HUTCHENS: Well, I knew from past experiences that if I wanted anybody to believe my conversations with this man that I needed to have them on tape and I knew I needed if I wanted to use them in law -- against him in a court of law I needed law enforcement's help.

So, I contacted them immediately. They began an investigation and then we talked to the FBI and that's -- so I probably had maybe three or four conversations before we recorded.

A.J. FARDELLA, FRIEND OF WENDY HUTCHENS: That would be the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department.

HUTCHENS: Yes.

KING: For a while they stayed out of this but now they have ascertained -- they have said that this is the case that the tapes are, in fact, the tapes.

FARDELLA: Yes.

HUTCHENS: Right.

FARDELLA: Yesterday the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department, Richard -- excuse me, Bob Giordano (ph) who is the head of their violent crimes unit put out a press release that acknowledged Wendy's involvement in the undercover work.

KING: Have you been involved in this from the start too?

FARDELLA: Only on a cursory level. I found out a little bit about it when it first happened in 2001 but Wendy realized that she was going to be a little overwhelmed with the media and I guess she ascertained that she thought I had the best skill set to help her out in this.

KING: You're long time friends.

HUTCHENS: Yes.

FARDELLA: For a long, long time.

KING: And you're used to criminal investigations.

FARDELLA: I work with various government agencies, mostly in the cyber crime area. -

Much more at the link http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0608/24/lkl.01.html

 

[Cypros]

I am confused about which mother was the molester. We are hearing in the news that John's mother tried to kill him as an infant and that she was placed in a mental hospital in PA. I believe I read that he was a baby when she was put away. So, is the woman who molested him all those years and then died when he was 14 his stepmother?

I've also heard that Karr's mother raised him like a girl. Was that the mother who tried to kill him and was sent to a mental hospital or the mother who sexually molested him and died at 40?

 

[southerngirl]

I am confused about which mother was the molester. We are hearing in the news that John's mother tried to kill him as an infant and that she was placed in a mental hospital in PA. I believe I read that he was a baby when she was put away. So, is the woman who molested him all those years and then died when he was 14 his stepmother?

I've also heard that Karr's mother raised him like a girl. Was that the mother who tried to kill him and was sent to a mental hospital or the mother who sexually molested him and died at 40?

I believe JK's natural mother is the one who allegedly molested him. She was committed to an institution after she tried to set him on fire, but at some point she was released. We haven't heard when that was. I believe she did die at 40. She evidently participated some in the upbringing of her boys.

I also found it interesting that in the profile JK give 3 different reasons how his mother died: suicide, homicide by his father, and homicide by he himself. JK obviously lies. Can this case get any stranger???

 

[Brains & NoBull]

Wendy Hutchens' journal, a letter to her from Richard Allen Davis, the form she filled out to be an informant, and three psych evaluations on her are all for sale through a third party trader on eBay.

Linky.

No bids and a starting price of $1499.

She does not have a great deal of credibility, in my opinion.

ETA: This was just added to the listing:

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In one Psychological Evaluation report it mentions, November 1998 Wendy Hutchens picks up a hitch hiker in Humbolt County and it was Wayne Adam Ford.[/font]

She seems to love to get involved with these types of cases.
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[southerngirl]

Wendy Hutchens' journal, a letter to her from Richard Allen Davis, the form she filled out to be an informant, and three psych evaluations on her are all for sale through a third party trader on eBay.

Linky.

No bids and a starting price of $1499.

She does not have a great deal of credibility, in my opinion. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/smilies/snooty.gif


ETA: This was just added to the listing:

She seems to love to get involved with these types of cases.
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Who is Wayne Allen Ford?

 

[Brains & NoBull]

Who is Wayne Allen Ford?

Just added a link to my original post.

Here is some info.

Chilling.

 

[southerngirl]

Just added a link to my original post.

Here is some info.

Chilling. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/smilies/puke.gif

Thank you. I'm going to go read about him now....

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

This is where the psych labels get tricky.
He's apparently not schizophrenic, hearing voices, institutionalized over and over, etc.
He doesn't appear to think and act like he's Napoleon or anything so clearly psychotic.
He's been able to harbor all his abnormal ideas, while doing his best to act like the people around him. He's looked for very young, moldable girls to marry, so he could basically brainwash them into agreeing with his abnormal ideas - so he can have at least one partner that validates his ideas, lessening any inner fear he has that he may be crazy. He's split - he's learned how to act in the world, but inside he keeps all the things he believes are the "real" truth.
I don't know that all pedophiles have the same wacky ideas to the same degree. I imagine that's impacted by how bad their own abuse experiences were and how old they were when it happened and how long it lasted, etc.
His ideas have definitely interferred with his ability to keep a job and maintain a stable relationship, which is one way to identify the degree of mental instability or mental illness.
If he is only imagining that he is the killer, then he basically has crossed over into thinking he's Napoleon - he just chose a different person to become.
With this personality, there's also a scary attention to detail - remember how he took his DeLorean apart and put it back together, and how everybody says how smart he is?
That concerns me with the careful entry and clean up of the crime scene and that nasty "garotte" thing -
A&E was suggesting in their "Evil" segment last night that Dahmer was considered "mild-mannered" by people who knew him -- maybe this little skinny guy is dangerous...

I think he's suffering from Asperger's Syndrome combined with sociopathic/pedophiliac tendencies. Asperger's Syndrome is a form of high functioning autism that can include obsessive behavior, OCD, delusional behaviors, confabulation and an inability to integrate socially.

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

I believe JK's natural mother is the one who allegedly molested him. She was committed to an institution after she tried to set him on fire, but at some point she was released. We haven't heard when that was. I believe she did die at 40. She evidently participated some in the upbringing of her boys.

I also found it interesting that in the profile JK give 3 different reasons how his mother died: suicide, homicide by his father, and homicide by he himself. JK obviously lies. Can this case get any stranger???

I think it's pointless to rely on JMK for realistic, reliable information about himself. The man's a congenital liar. I tend to think the family frirends and other relatives are more reliable--one of which has already stated that JMK was notorious for lying in order to get attention.

 

[LovelyPigeon]

The .jpg's of the "profile" pages are all titled AJFardella, who is long time friend of Hutchen's and appeared with her on LKL. I think that probably indicates that AJ Fardella wrote the pages after listening to taped conversations (allegedly) between Hutchens and MJKarr.

 

[Jayelles]

The .jpg's of the "profile" pages are all titled AJFardella, who is long time friend of Hutchen's and appeared with her on LKL. I think that probably indicates that AJ Fardella wrote the pages after listening to taped conversations (allegedly) between Hutchens and MJKarr.

Hey LP. What do you reckon about all of this? (i.e. generally).

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

I hate to say it, but its pretty rare for gender confusion to arise from a boy being molested by a female. I suspect Karr probably was molested as a child, but not by his mother, or any other female relative.

 

[Leila]

Hi Southerngirl, Thanks for the profile. I want to read it but the type is so tiny I can't, and for some reason my 'puter won't bring the size up hardly any. Is there any way you can enlarge the print so us 'oldsdters' can read it easier.

Thanks Scandi

I haven't finished reading this whole thread yet, but wanted to respond to those who are having difficulties reading the small print.

I too couldn't read the document. I noted that the images are photos, so I right clicked on the image and chose "save image", which will automatically go to "My Pictures." Once you have it saved as a photo, you can enlarge it as large as you want with a few clicks. In just a few clicks I had it enlarged to a normal 12-pont font.

 

[txsvicki]

I notice that Karr is claiming to want the world to understand that he didn't mean to hurt the little "girls" when explaining why they have to be ritually killed after being attacked. There has to be more victims.

 

[lovebites]

Who did the profile?? It says it's Wendy Hutchens site - isn't she the other loon who has the taped converations with him?

I'm confused....

 

[lovebites]

I googled her. There is a channel 4 news cast that showed her picture. She is the woman they have interviewed a view times on TV that reported him to the police and they took the reports but didn't run with any of her information. Must have thought she was some kind of a nut case. I am beinging to think maybe she is.........Google Wendy Hutchins

Ahhhh haaaaaa!!!!! I must have missed this post. I figured it was her - she's not playin' with a full deck either so how she figures she's qualified to do "profiling" is just another indication of that. As I recall, she met Karr because she too was obsessed with child killings and their killers. She's creepy too folks.

 

[Hyatt]

Who did the profile?? It says it's Wendy Hutchens site - isn't she the other loon who has the taped converations with him?

I'm confused....

Everything points to her having written it. Can someone answer a question for me? Was she the person responsible for his initial charges of possession of kiddie ? Or was that another woman?

JMO

 

[aspidistra]

Ahhhh haaaaaa!!!!! I must have missed this post. I figured it was her - she's not playin' with a full deck either so how she figures she's qualified to do "profiling" is just another indication of that. As I recall, she met Karr because she too was obsessed with child killings and their killers. She's creepy too folks.

She taped the calls with the FBI's help. It's because of her gaining his confidence that they got him on the child . Unfortunately they didn't see any evidence that he harmed any child, so child was all they charged him with and he fled the country.

I don't see this rancor toward Wendy Hutchens, assuming she is somehow unbalanced. She was a guest of Larry King, Paula Zahn, and Nancy Grace, all of whom felt she was believable. The Sonoma police dept. issued a press release confirming she worked for them to get Karr to talk about his crimes against children.

If she wrote the profile it was with the help of the investigators, and it was based on his own taped words. This is not a crackpot loon trying to glorify herself. This is a look into the mind of a dangerous criminal. People are shooting the messenger.

She met Karr because she knew Richard Davis (killer of Polly Klaas) from childhood, lived on the same street, and wrote to him asking if he knew about the death of someone else she knew. Because at the same time Karr was writing to Richard Davis, he put her in touch with Karr through some website. She explained all this on LKL today, there is probably a transcript on line if you want more exact details. Then when she began seeing how disturbed Karr was she went to the police, and from then on taped his conversations for them.

 

[Hyatt]

I just remembered something about one of Wendy Hutchen's televised interviews. Didn't she say that Karr had told her that he had eaten pineapple with JonBenet at a Ramsey party? I remember thinking, when I heard that someone (Karr or her or both) were getting two separate incidents mixed up.

JMO