Kathleen Savio's Death #1

[SuziQ]

You guys, read post 114

 

[SuziQ]

The whole point the States attorney was making at the presser was Kathleen didn't drown in the tub. And Dr. Baden confirmed that. Lividity was on the front of her body.

 

[Tom'sGirl]

The whole point the States attorney was making at the presser was Kathleen didn't drown in the tub. And Dr. Baden confirmed that. Lividity was on the front of her body.

Unless another lie was told, and someone sat her up upon finding her.

 

[SuziQ]

she had been lying on her stomach for at least 6 hours before being moved to the position in the tub

 

[SuziQ]

Lividity was fixed over the anterior surface of her body. Anterior means front.

 

[STEADFAST]

she had been lying on her stomach for at least 6 hours before being moved to the position in the tub

Six hours, plus however long she was in the tub. I saw the show. He said she died some time in the afternoon. What time was she found?

 

[Taximom]

I will try to find a transcript for Greta's show tonight. I don't have cable and I didn't watch it. But according to comments on Gretablog, Kathleen was found on her side but sitting up. Her head was down, hair in her face. Dr Baden made the point that lividity showed she had been lying on her stomach for at least 6 hours before being moved to the position in the tub.

Holy cow people! We thought she was kneeling face down or something, because of what the autopsy said about lividity. There is just no way, none, that Kathleens case was merely overlooked. That was NOT a suspicious or undedermined death to present to a Coroner's jury. It should have been ruled homocide the day of Kathleens autopsy. I'm going to go as far to say, someone, somehow rigged the final results.

I think you are right.

 

[calidreamin]

I will try to find a transcript for Greta's show tonight. I don't have cable and I didn't watch it. But according to comments on Gretablog, Kathleen was found on her side but sitting up. Her head was down, hair in her face. Dr Baden made the point that lividity showed she had been lying on her stomach for at least 6 hours before being moved to the position in the tub.

Holy cow people! We thought she was kneeling face down or something, because of what the autopsy said about lividity. There is just no way, none, that Kathleens case was merely overlooked. That was NOT a suspicious or undedermined death to present to a Coroner's jury. It should have been ruled homocide the day of Kathleens autopsy. I'm going to go as far to say, someone, somehow rigged the final results.

This was a complete cover up and whoever helped DP get away with this should be criminaly charged as well.

 

[Indy Gal]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311156,00.html


Authorities in a Chicago suburb exhumed a body in the investigation of a local woman's disappearance.
Investigators dug up the body of Kathleen Savio Tuesday morning in their continuing investigation of Stacy Peterson’s disappearance. Her husband, Drew Peterson, has been named a suspect in the case.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

It was sad to see them exhume her body yet powerful. It is like she is returning for justice for not only herself...but for Stacey, too. She will finally get the peace she lacked the first time she was buried. I hope her family hangs onto this and it makes it easier for them to rebury her when this part is over.

 

[SuziQ]

Savio's sister talks to CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/11/13/intv.exhume.savio.sister.cnn

 

[SuziQ]

Detectives need to get a clue

http://www.suntimes.com/news/commentary/647052,CST-EDT-edit13a.article

(snip)
So now, prosecutors say there are "strong indications" that Kathleen Savio's bathtub death in 2004 was a homicide. Somehow all those clues -- the dry tub, the $1-million life insurance policy, the numerous abuse complaints to police, the deathly fears Kathleen confided to her family -- didn't raise eyebrows until Kathleen's successor, Stacy Peterson, went missing two weeks ago. Duh. Even a novice ''CSI'' viewer could have scoped that out.

and

If there was no doubt in Glasgow's mind that her death wasn't accidental, as he said last week, perhaps other Will County cases need to be re-investigated. Even if those cases didn't make it onto Fox News or CNN.

 

[mysteriew]

Cyril Wecht giving his opinion on what they will find during the exhumation. He says they won't find anything- "unless someone feels that certain things were deliberately missed," (evidently he isn't aware that no xrays were taken- according to recent info anyway.)
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/647486,CST-NWS-exhume13.article

 

[mysteriew]

In chat last night we came up with a possible scenario.

Ok, Drew was maybe working that day
He stops by Kathys while on duty. They fight and he uses his nightstick. The fight ends up in the bathroom. He starts drowning Kathy in the toilet. With her left hand she is pushing in the toilet but cannot raise her head. Before long she drowns. Maybe the weight of her body causes her to slip down, but her hand remains in the toilet.

Drew leaves to go back to work or otherwise establish an alibi. He goes back later and cleans up the signs of a struggle and any blood. He knows the body will show drowning so he puts her in the tub.

He goes back home gets the kids and takes them to the house and gets the neighbor.

That explains the lividity, the fact that only one hand was wrinkled, and the undiluted blood.

 

[SuziQ]

Lisa, daughter of Wife#2 speaks to Greta. Go to link and video is on the right side under Fox News Video:

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

 

[cheko1]

Drew Peterson the walls are closing in on you!
Do you think you could save the taxpayers of Ill some money & confess to your dasterdly deeds?

Your a killer & need stopped!!!!

 

[SuziQ]

In chat last night we came up with a possible scenario.

Ok, Drew was maybe working that day
He stops by Kathys while on duty. They fight and he uses his nightstick. Drags her across carpet? The fight ends up in the bathroom. He starts drowning Kathy in the toilet. With her left hand she is pushing in the toilet but cannot raise her head. Before long she drowns. Maybe the weight of her body causes her to slip down, but her hand remains in the toilet.

Drew leaves to go back to work or otherwise establish an alibi. He goes back later and cleans up the signs of a struggle and any blood. He knows the body will show drowning so he puts her in the tub. Sitting up, leaning to the side, head down, hair in face.

He goes back home gets the kids and takes them to the house and gets the neighbor.

That explains the lividity, the fact that only one hand was wrinkled, and the undiluted blood.

Perfect! I added the above in red. You can keep it in there or not. You decide.

 

[SuziQ]

Gory alert!

For her body to be moved to the tub and placed in the position she was found. Rigor must have passed. Or there are broken bones or joints that weren't reported in the autopsy. Would that be correct thinking?

 

[STEADFAST]

he puts her in the tub. Sitting up, leaning to the side, head down, hair in face. . . . Perfect! I added the above in red. You can keep it in there or not. You decide.

Sounds like he just plopped her down in the tub, like maybe he was in a hurry with that part. Do you think maybe he had at first planned to pretend to discover a "mysterious murder" but thought better of it later and decided an accident would be a safer scenario for him?

 

[SuziQ]

Sounds like he just plopped her down in the tub, like maybe he was in a hurry with that part. Do you think maybe he had at first planned to pretend to discover a "mysterious murder" but thought better of it later and decided an accident would be a safer scenario for him?

You are so correct about Drew changing his plan. This is what I think happened. If Drew plopped her in the tub it would have to have been after lividity set in and and after rigor had passed. That's a long time. 24 or more hours? He's thinking a family member or a friend is going to discover her body. No one does. Time runs out when he has to return the boys. So he has to make a change of plans. Wah la, he stages the drowning, then gathers up witnesses for the "discovery" of the "accidental drowning".