KC has checked into Probation .2011.08.24 - 6:00 PM EDT #3

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  • #141
Driving around aimlessly in her car, latching onto the lifestyle of others, no apparent interests of her own.
I don't believe she has ever had any direction in her life other than for the moment ... it's pretty hard to imagine how probation will rid her of that kind of mindset (or should we say lack of any), let alone set her on a worthwhile course. IMO she will simply see the conditions of her probation as the rules she is to follow 'for now'.
I have to keep reminding myself that she doesn't think like the rest of us!

We have said before on this board that KC lives her life in 10 minute stretches. No planning, no looking at the big picture. Maybe she's getting intense counseling right now on how to life a richer and more productive life. We just don't know, and I'm surprised she hasn't been outed, wherever she's currently staying. Is she staying indoors all the time? How can she possibly enjoy her life in hiding? Why doesn't she just walk through a mall, or go fill out an application, and see what happens? Face the music? She can't live in hiding for the rest of her life.
 
  • #142
Im telling ya, i have a feeling shes at hopespring with good ole mom and dad. Those are the only two people in the world that would not out her whereabouts. Especially if this is all some kind of Dr. Phil counseling two for one package deal thingy. They are all on probation together. lol! all imo.
 
  • #143
We have said before on this board that KC lives her life in 10 minute stretches. No planning, no looking at the big picture. Maybe she's getting intense counseling right now on how to life a richer and more productive life. We just don't know, and I'm surprised she hasn't been outed, wherever she's currently staying. Is she staying indoors all the time? How can she possibly enjoy her life in hiding? Why doesn't she just walk through a mall, or go fill out an application, and see what happens? Face the music? She can't live in hiding for the rest of her life.
I wonder whether she has resigned herself to the fact that, unless she takes the big step and wears at least some sort of wrath outside, this IS the life she's going to have to settle with (cowering in a corner like a scared mouse)?
Or ..... is she maybe actually champing at the bit - and 'somebody' is not allowing her to take that step?
 
  • #144
Im telling ya, i have a feeling shes at hopespring with good ole mom and dad. Those are the only two people in the world that would not out her whereabouts. Especially if this is all some kind of Dr. Phil counseling two for one package deal thingy. They are all on probation together. lol! all imo.

If this is true then I expect to see another arrest and soon....cause there is no way those two women could live in the same house without trying to kill one another.:crazy:
 
  • #145
I wonder whether she has resigned herself to the fact that, unless she takes the big step and wears at least some sort of wrath outside, this IS the life she's going to have to settle with (cowering in a corner like a scared mouse)?
Or ..... is she maybe actually champing at the bit - and 'somebody' is not allowing her to take that step?

I think she is enjoying all of the attention right now. She has a team of lawyers hiding her away in secret, people trying to counsel her and give her spiritual advice, probably her own computer to use, and nothing to do but lay around and enjoy being indigent. I do think eventually she's going to get bored and tired of being inside all of the time. Once her fear level (the only thing she fears is harm to herself) goes down, she's going to want to go out and party, and I'm sure there's no bars on the windows where she is. She's going to slip through their fingers and get into trouble one of these days. Casey is most dangerous when what's around her doesn't do it for her anymore. She gets bored, and that's when she gets into trouble. I give it a few more months at most. Maybe less than that. We all know her friendships don't last that long. I can't imagine her being okay with being locked down in a house forever. Seriously, the DT should be locking up their checkbooks, and checking their pockets after visiting her. They must be so nervous with this one year probation. They know how she is, and I'm sure she's thrown plenty of hissyfits by now. I wonder if at some point they are going to be fed up with her?
 
  • #146
I think she is enjoying all of the attention right now. She has a team of lawyers hiding her away in secret, people trying to counsel her and give her spiritual advice, probably her own computer to use, and nothing to do but lay around and enjoy being indigent. I do think eventually she's going to get bored and tired of being inside all of the time. Once her fear level (the only thing she fears is harm to herself) goes down, she's going to want to go out and party, and I'm sure there's no bars on the windows where she is. She's going to slip through their fingers and get into trouble one of these days. Casey is most dangerous when what's around her doesn't do it for her anymore. She gets bored, and that's when she gets into trouble. I give it a few more months at most. Maybe less than that. We all know her friendships don't last that long. I can't imagine her being okay with being locked down in a house forever. Seriously, the DT should be locking up their checkbooks, and checking their pockets after visiting her. They must be so nervous with this one year probation. They know how she is, and I'm sure she's thrown plenty of hissyfits by now. I wonder if at some point they are going to be fed up with her?

IMO she's not enjoying anything. I imagine she's mad at her attorneys or whoever she has regular contact with, she's still in denial over what she did to Caylee and who's to blame, and of course therapy won't help if you're not honest with yourself. Oops, I'm getting :offtopic:!
 
  • #147
She's going to slip through their fingers and get into trouble one of these days.
+respectfully snipped+

I'd like to have been a fly on the wall when she realized the bodyguards were there to keep her in
 
  • #148
+respectfully snipped+

I'd like to have been a fly on the wall when she realized the bodyguards were there to keep her in

She has bodyguards?!?!?! I sure hope to heck that someone is slipping birth control pills into her meals!
 
  • #149
Should KC's probation officer treat her as they would any other probationer, unless KC does something wrong, that draws the attention of the PO, the PO will not give her probation any more time than is absolutely necessary to ascertain she is not breaking probation.

In todays economy, with the job market what it is today, and the obvious potential problems of hiring someone like KC, the PO will likely not push the employment issue. A statistic I would like to see is, what percentage of felons currently on probation in Florida, are gainfully employed? What percentage of felons in Florida have had their probation taken away, for the sole probation violation of being unable to get a job?

CM did say donations were pouring in from all over the country. I don't know how the IRS deals with this. It seems it would be impossible to track a 20$ cash donation to her through the mail. Even if it is true, as CM said, that thousands of dollars in donations have come in, they are still donations and I don't know that even a gift of $500 to her would have to be reported as income. She really should not have any problem paying the $20 per month or whatever it is for her probation costs. The donations have likely stopped by now, or have dwindled considerably.

As for her housing and basic necessities (food, shampoo, etc), there may have been enough donations to get her by for a year. Even if her housing and basics ended up being 30,000$, it is possible the donations would be enough for those costs. Her biggest expense, will likely be the 24hr protection (if indeed she is under 24hr protection). The cost of 24hr protection for a year, could run as high as $150,000 or more, based on 3 to 4 bodygaurds earning $40,000 a year each. (pure speculation on my part as to what a bodyguard earns). This could be part of the reason why the DT fought the probation issue so hard.

As for what HHBP determines to be KC's costs for the investigation of the lies she was convicted of, in regards to her current probation, I am not sure how that will work legally. She is under probation for the fraud felonies, not for lying. If HHBP says she must pay xxxxxxx in court costs, investigation costs etc, and must pay xxxxx amount per month (he will have to keep in mind she is indigent), even if she fails to pay these costs on a monthly basis, I am not sure that would be a probation violation. She has already served her time for the lying convictions. If she scores a huge $ amount for a book, movie or interview deal, of course, she would no longer be considered indigent, and it will open a whole new can of worms.

Taking classes online, is probably a viable alternative to her employment woes. She can possibly fill out job applications online as well, versus the attention that could occur should she go out in public and apply in person to potential employers. Either way, I doubt any one would hire her. I would guess, she is spending some time with online classes. If she is living her life basically under house arrest, (since her bodyguards would not really be too thrilled at the prospect of protecting her in a local nightclub), her public appearances will likely be very limited if they even happen at all. She probably does surf the internet, and it is very possible she reads here, since this site was mentioned during YM's time on the stand. She also probably watches TV a lot. She does seem to like to write, so it is also possible she could be writing a book,(and if she is smart) to be peddled after the civil suits are all done.

She has no friends to invite her out to the clubs, to house parties etc. She never seemed to be a drug addict. Safety is an issue if she goes out in public, and even if no one hurts her physically, the potential for verbal abuse towards her is very high. From her point of view, even as a narcissist, why would she want to go out in public and face that? Also, if the threats that the court seem to acknowledge as being true, public appearances by her will likely be very limited.

The best thing she can do, is to take classes online, perhaps fill out job applications online (for which she will not be hired), work on writing a book, get therapy (if she can afford it), and keep her nose clean and her mouth shut. There will be news stories when HHBP rules on costs, monthly news stories regarding her probation, new stories each time anyone in her family or the DT get face time on TV, or any public appearance that MSM deems newsworthy, and of course each time someone new files a civil suit with anybody involved in this case or there is breaking news about a current civil suit. For the next year, she will still be in the public eye quite often, without her ever showing her face.

After probation will be a whole different ballgame.

As always, my entire post is my opinion only.
 
  • #150
IMO she's not enjoying anything. I imagine she's mad at her attorneys or whoever she has regular contact with, she's still in denial over what she did to Caylee and who's to blame, and of course therapy won't help if you're not honest with yourself. Oops, I'm getting :offtopic:!

She's enjoying the attention she gets is what I mean. She put up with Caylee for so long because of the attention Caylee brought her. Now she has a celebrity status with her own DT. I'm sure she's enjoying that attention. Maybe not being cooped up all the time, but Casey knows how to manipulate people to get what she wants. She'll be the little doe that needs protecting as long it garners her lots of attention. I'm sure she's going to eventually go stir crazy and want to get out. And maybe that's what the DT has to get her to stay in line - be good, and we'll let you out to take more pics!

She is going to tire of it at some point and want to move on, though. This thing with the DT isn't going to last much longer than her friendships once she gets tired of being cooped up and the attention just doesn't do it for her anymore, or she starts getting negative attention from the DT because she's not bringing in the money like they thought she would. I think it's why they didn't want probation - they didn't want to have to cage Casey for a whole year so they could make money. Now they're stuck with her as long as they still think they can make any money off of her.

And someone is paying for her house, security system, bodyguards, mental health team, spiritual advisor, and all the bling she seem to have along with nice clothes. That has to be coming out of somebody's pocket, and I don't think people sent her thousands of dollars. I think CM exaggerated what people have sent her. We all saw her commisary account. No one really sent her all that much each month while she was in jail. Why would anyone other than her parents send thousands of dollars to her after she got out? It makes no sense.

Well, at least there's not a child in her way to kill this time. We can be thankful for that until we hear she's pregnant again. *shudder*
 
  • #151
Im telling ya, i have a feeling shes at hopespring with good ole mom and dad. Those are the only two people in the world that would not out her whereabouts. Especially if this is all some kind of Dr. Phil counseling two for one package deal thingy. They are all on probation together. lol! all imo.

I think the neighbors would have heard Casey yelling, arguing and cussing at her parents if was at the Hopespring house
:twocents:
 
  • #152
I think she is enjoying all of the attention right now. She has a team of lawyers hiding her away in secret, people trying to counsel her and give her spiritual advice, probably her own computer to use, and nothing to do but lay around and enjoy being indigent. I do think eventually she's going to get bored and tired of being inside all of the time. Once her fear level (the only thing she fears is harm to herself) goes down, she's going to want to go out and party, and I'm sure there's no bars on the windows where she is. She's going to slip through their fingers and get into trouble one of these days. Casey is most dangerous when what's around her doesn't do it for her anymore. She gets bored, and that's when she gets into trouble. I give it a few more months at most. Maybe less than that. We all know her friendships don't last that long. I can't imagine her being okay with being locked down in a house forever. Seriously, the DT should be locking up their checkbooks, and checking their pockets after visiting her. They must be so nervous with this one year probation. They know how she is, and I'm sure she's thrown plenty of hissyfits by now. I wonder if at some point they are going to be fed up with her?

ITA ... boredom will probably be KC's undoing ... at least that's what I'm hoping for ...
IMO she probably thinks laying low for a couple months will do the trick ... when it doesn't , there may be trouble
She's been locked up for 3 years and I'm sure she'll try to find a way to enjoy her freedom and won't be patient about waiting ...

I just can't understand why she's not forced to get her GED ... I mean all she has to do is say to any potential employer that she doesn't have a HS diploma to avoid getting a job indefinitely ...
 
  • #153
ITA ... boredom will probably be KC's undoing ... at least that's what I'm hoping for ...
IMO she probably thinks laying low for a couple months will do the trick ... when it doesn't , there may be trouble
She's been locked up for 3 years and I'm sure she'll try to find a way to enjoy her freedom and won't be patient about waiting ...

I just can't understand why she's not forced to get her GED ... I mean all she has to do is say to any potential employer that she doesn't have a HS diploma to avoid getting a job indefinitely ...

isn't that a requirement? i'm pretty sure i heard it was a requirement on the day Baez said she was going to school instead of working. has that changed?
 
  • #154
She's enjoying the attention she gets is what I mean. She put up with Caylee for so long because of the attention Caylee brought her. Now she has a celebrity status with her own DT. I'm sure she's enjoying that attention. Maybe not being cooped up all the time, but Casey knows how to manipulate people to get what she wants. She'll be the little doe that needs protecting as long it garners her lots of attention. I'm sure she's going to eventually go stir crazy and want to get out. And maybe that's what the DT has to get her to stay in line - be good, and we'll let you out to take more pics!

She is going to tire of it at some point and want to move on, though. This thing with the DT isn't going to last much longer than her friendships once she gets tired of being cooped up and the attention just doesn't do it for her anymore, or she starts getting negative attention from the DT because she's not bringing in the money like they thought she would. I think it's why they didn't want probation - they didn't want to have to cage Casey for a whole year so they could make money. Now they're stuck with her as long as they still think they can make any money off of her.

And someone is paying for her house, security system, bodyguards, mental health team, spiritual advisor, and all the bling she seem to have along with nice clothes. That has to be coming out of somebody's pocket, and I don't think people sent her thousands of dollars. I think CM exaggerated what people have sent her. We all saw her commisary account. No one really sent her all that much each month while she was in jail. Why would anyone other than her parents send thousands of dollars to her after she got out? It makes no sense.

Well, at least there's not a child in her way to kill this time. We can be thankful for that until we hear she's pregnant again. *shudder*

This is why I am so angry that she is out! I didn't care about the death penalty, I just wanted her in prison for the next 30-40 years! She can still have more children, and you can guarantee this will be the first thing she does once she finds a man to trap!
 
  • #155
ITA ... boredom will probably be KC's undoing ... at least that's what I'm hoping for ...
IMO she probably thinks laying low for a couple months will do the trick ... when it doesn't , there may be trouble
She's been locked up for 3 years and I'm sure she'll try to find a way to enjoy her freedom and won't be patient about waiting ...

I just can't understand why she's not forced to get her GED ... I mean all she has to do is say to any potential employer that she doesn't have a HS diploma to avoid getting a job indefinitely ...

Could be denjet but KC didn't like to work either, lol. The fake jobs she imagined allowed her to be bored. IMO she like feeling that way.

mo
 
  • #156
This is why I am so angry that she is out! I didn't care about the death penalty, I just wanted her in prison for the next 30-40 years! She can still have more children, and you can guarantee this will be the first thing she does once she finds a man to trap!

I couldn't agree more - as for the DP, I thought 40 yrs plus "good time" was probably what could be expected.

As for the reproductive capacity, I suspect she's already working on that. And my cynicism leads me to suspect she's already thinking about the"exclusive" on that.

She's a proven parasite. I don't think we will see another murder, but I do think we will see another broken child.

and in the saddest possible way I can imagine, I say: Ob la di, Ob la da, life goes on (except for Caylee) bra. Lala, how the life goes on (cue Cindy)...

Oy, I am a bitter - sorry for my rant.
 
  • #157
I couldn't agree more - as for the DP, I thought 40 yrs plus "good time" was probably what could be expected.

As for the reproductive capacity, I suspect she's already working on that. And my cynicism leads me to suspect she's already thinking about the"exclusive" on that.

She's a proven parasite. I don't think we will see another murder, but I do think we will see another broken child.

and in the saddest possible way I can imagine, I say: Ob la di, Ob la da, life goes on (except for Caylee) bra. Lala, how the life goes on (cue Cindy)...

Oy, I am a bitter - sorry for my rant.

I'm bitter, too! FCA has no redeeming qualities, is not a good person, and gets all the lucky breaks. And now she will probably bring another life into this world who never asked to have this monster for a mother. If there is any justice, she will suffer permanent infertility. One can only hope!
 
  • #158
:waiting: ....for news of the convicted felon's pregnancy. I've already prepared myself.
 
  • #159
:waiting: ....for news of the convicted felon's pregnancy. I've already prepared myself.

Well, the report on the news (Fox this morning) is that she's going to marry some wealthy guy from CA...hmmm, who could it be? Supposedly he wrote to her while she was in jail.


Oh this will be rich! :floorlaugh:
 
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