KC's Pregnancy/Denial (Merged Threads)

[LinasK]

I was shaking so badly from the epidural drugs that I wanted my husband to hold her first rather than me, because I was afraid I would drop her! My daughter did bond with me- so it's petty jealousy over the fact that Cindy held Caylee first, but if Casey objected so badly, why did she let Cindy in the delivery room with her? You do have a choice!!!

 

[RoseTree]

Me too Linask, except I was vomiting for hours, and my son is a Mama's boy all the way and always has been.

2 thoughts/comments:

1. One can have an abortion in Florida until almost 24 weeks.

2. When I see photos of ICA in court, she often looks to me like she is GLOWING from the attention from her mother. I guess this is what she wanted.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

It's just a shame that King Solomon wasn't there in that delivery room, too. In his wisdom he would have suggested they cut the baby in half so they could both hold and bond with her. Remember the story? But no; there were only the Anthonys, the obstetrician and hospital staff, so Caylee had to spend the rest of her short life being pulled in two by two petty, jealous women. God bless her, she left this life exactly the same way she arrived ~ being pulled apart by two feuding female dogs.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

OK....now here is the scary thing: Knowing what we do now, we would all be crossing fingers and toes that CINDY was given custody of Caylee in any such judgment call by King Solomon. Think about that for a second. Poor girl never had a hope. It's so f'ing sad!

 

[Snaz]

OK....now here is the scary thing: Knowing what we do now, we would all be crossing fingers and toes that CINDY was given custody of Caylee in any such judgment call by King Solomon. Think about that for a second. Poor girl never had a hope. It's so f'ing sad!

I'm pretty sure, Mrs. G Norris, that I would not be wishing Cindy had been given custody of Caylee... after all, SHE raised KC... and looked how that turned out. IMO, the only chance Caylee had in life at all was to be raised by someone OTHER than a dysfunctional Anthony.

 

[txsvicki]

Any person who would allegedly kill their toddler could probably care less if their mark of a Mom held the baby first then handed it to her. I'd bet anything that the whole whinefest about that was just a ploy and manipulation by Casey to make Cindy feel like dirt. This is what psychopath/narcissists do to their scapegoats. Cindy's Myspace post to Casey shows how manipulated and confused she was about all these jealousies. On the other hand, narcissists are extremely jealous and even go sort of paranoid at times with it (due to their grandiosity, someone HAS to be doing them wrong), so Casey could have totally blown the birth scenario out of proportion and been very jealous over a minor thing that other people would think nothing about. Especially one who had a supportive mother giving her a lovely home and was there at the birth cheering her on.

 

[Leila]

I do think Casey is a sick young woman. I know somene who had a baby when she was 15 and was an EXCELLANT Mother. She sure loved her son and last i heard, he had graduated college! She did a great job and she did not have it so easy likeCasey did. Casey had it easy compared to some single Mothers. Im sure, within reason, CA wouldve babysat when she went out on dates, etc and she probably bought all the food, baby furniture, etc it looked like Caylee had everything.
yes, we have safe places here where girls who dont want their babies can drop them off, i do believe they are any fire dept, no questions asked.
I guess this wasnt an option for Casey but....I do believe that at first she did WANT Caylee,she just didnt realise what a big responsibility it would be.

I suspect that Casey enjoyed being the center of attention as a pregnant woman. Cindy has mentioned a baby shower and showed Greta something she made as a keepsake of that baby shower. I think Casey loved that attention, receiving gifts and her mom opening her wallet for all the baby furniture.

Coming home from the hospital with a new baby, Casey was again the center of attention and likely received more gifts.

But, as Caylee grew older and started having the first of many firsts - first smile, first laugh, sitting up for the first time, creeping, first step, first tooth, etc., the attention was drawn away from Casey and now Caylee was the center of attention.

On top of Caylee being the center of attention, she also needed a lot of care and taking care of Caylee didn't allow Casey to do what she wanted. I think Casey's resentment of Caylee began very early on.

 

[AlwaysShocked]

I too think the "I never even got to be the first one to hold my child" was just another part of Casey's "schtick". Designed to exert control and to get her own way about something. I'll bet the reason it was mentioned by family members during LE interviews is that she said it often.

Another one it is obvious she used a lot is "You're just not letting me TALK!" I noticed her use of this one and her parents' immediate reaction to it in the jailhouse video where she was ranting at them.

Casey is quite the piece of work. And I think whether she talks about Caylee's death or the trial, or just talks about the weather, the reason Baez doesn't want any further videos of her to come out is they'll show her for the witch that she is.

This is one of the few areas in which I think Baez has been smart. To not let her have family visits.

 

[CentralFLMama]

I think Casey is guilty as sin and the entire family is a bunch of nutjobs... BUT if someone else other than me held my baby after the birth I would have a complete fit. I could see Casey being angry since Cindy and her were so competitive.

 

[ladylurker]

Any snipped quotes have been snipped for length! Hope that's okay.

The pic of Cindy standing next to Casey is so odd, the look in Cindy's eyes...

Just wondering if you might know where to find any other pictures of KC from her uncle's wedding? :gthanks:

FWIW, I don't know if the statement to the co-workers was ever verified or is still considered a rumor.

Would love more info on this! I hadn't heard of this before.

I don't understand what was so horrible about admitting she was pregnant. It's the 21st century, people do have kids out of wedlock and I don't think there's much of a stigma associated with it. The idea that a person would need to have control to the point of lying about a pregnancy is astonishingly sick. The whole ordeal had to have colored their perceptions of Caylee from the start. Calling an unborn child a "tumor" to cover up a pregnancy is extremely disturbing.

For many families, having kids out of wedlock does have a huge stigma attached to it, especially CA and her desire for the "perfect family" - but ITA that it's sick and disturbing. Poor Caylee.

I can't imagine that CA wouldn't have said "Do you want to draw attention to your tumor? Put on some spanx, for cryin' out loud."

:laughitup:

Just to throw my 2 cents in for the whole birth thing - I would not have been pleased if someone had handed my baby off to someone else, unless I really felt unable to take the baby myself. I didn't have meds with either child, but I imagine I would have felt this way even if I did have meds or a c-section - just my personality. When my son was born, I was actually pulling up into a standing position using a chair (we all thought he wasn't coming for at least a couple hours!), so obviously things were a bit hectic those first few minutes. My husband and sister-in-law both got to see the baby before I did, and I remember feeling aggravated about that. I was impatient, I guess - I wanted to see him and hold him right that second! And not only did I have to wait, but I waited while hearing their reactions at seeing him. But then, emotions right after birth really run the gamut. While I did feel aggravated at the time, I completely forgot about it until reading this thread! I can't imagine holding on to that feeling even now - and my son is not even 2 months old! If I did still feel upset about it, I'd probably talk to my husband and SIL about it just to get it off my chest and move past it.

ITA that it is a petty thing to rub in someone's face. You don't have to be the first one to hold your child to bond with your child. If you wanted to be the first one to see or hold your child and you weren't, I think it's normal to be disappointed, but if it continues to bother you for a while - you need to sort it out! It's in the past and it's done, and it really doesn't matter. My husband wasn't the first one to hold either of our children, but he's certainly bonded to them without any trouble. Adoptive parents are able to bond when adopting older children. It just shows how dysfunctional that family is. That they would hold on to that kind of drama and not resolve it within the first few months of Caylee's life just shows how bad they are at resolving even the pettiest issues.

MOO

 

[JBean]

Another thread with information and links about pregnancy denial for reference

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Just wondering if you might know where to find any other pictures of KC from her uncle's wedding? :gthanks:

The only other ones I have are these:

I wish I had more, would love to see any others of Casey during this time .. but was pretty stunned when I saw these to see how brazen she was and how nutso the whole denial scenario is once you see the hard evidence. Unbelievable isn't it?

 

[JBean]

here is another

 

[JBean]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x161/need2no/Pics to share/Anthony-Caseypregnant.jpg

not sure if this can be posted 3rd party, but i'll put it up for a bit anyway and then take it down later. It's a good one.

 

[Harvey]

Who could look at this picture and believe CA's denial that ICA isn't preggers? Wow. Nutty...all of them.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x161/need2no/Pics to share/Anthony-Caseypregnant.jpg

not sure if this can be posted 3rd party, but i'll put it up for a bit anyway and then take it down later. It's a good one.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Nobody. It makes no sense.

 

[lauriej]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x161/need2no/Pics to share/Anthony-Caseypregnant.jpg

not sure if this can be posted 3rd party, but i'll put it up for a bit anyway and then take it down later. It's a good one.

...i know uncle rick called her--or cindy rather---on it immediatley.

( pregnant?? nonsense! she's a virgin!...a tumour perhaps...)

...but i don't remember seeing in friends interviews where they mentioned kc being pregnant, and hanging out with her etc. during that time frame at all..

...surely she (and her tumour) didn't just stay home for 9 months and kick back with cindy...

 

[Aedrys]

...i know uncle rick called her--or cindy rather---on it immediatley.

( pregnant?? nonsense! she's a virgin!...a tumour perhaps...)

...but i don't remember seeing in friends interviews where they mentioned kc being pregnant, and hanging out with her etc. during that time frame at all..

...surely she (and her tumour) didn't just stay home for 9 months and kick back with cindy...

Or maybe she lied to her friends, told them she was pregnant, and lied about the father and that everything was going to be okay. She probably wove some grand story to them about this pregnancy and they just went along with it and didn't question her about it. She had no reason to keep this from her friends, and I can see her totally doing this just to get on Cindy's nerves. Cindy can't control how Casey is around her friends.

Either that or Cindy kept her locked in her room for nine months, only letting her leave for things like Rick's wedding.

 

[Schmerty_Jones]

Bu..Bu..BUT....wasn't Jesse G. ordered to come & sign the birth certificate as the Father of the Tumor? I think his family had a paternity test to show he was NOT the father & the A family was pissed!!!:truce:

 

[newsaddict]

Guys bear with me, but I have been thinking for awhile that Casey never intended on bringing up Caylee or allowing her to live much past her first breath. I don't think we can ignore the pregnancy denial. Think of all those girls who hide their pregnancy, then deliver in secret and carry on as if nothing ever happened. If Rick hadn't intervened and forced Cindy and George to acknowledge the fact that Casey was pregnant, I think that Casey would have just had her somewhere, disposed of her then carried on with her life as if she had been some kind of benign tumor which had miraculously disappeared. Caylee's eventual murder was possibly an overdue event in Casey's mind if this theory is correct and she had been living on borrowed time. Do any of you think this scenario is possible?

This is from a story which wrapped up last week, which set me to thinking, would Casey have acted the same way towards Caylee as Keli Lane did towards Tegan if she had never been exposed at the wedding?

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/pregnancy-denial-linked-to-lifestyle-20101214-18wwg.html

Wow I never thought about that as a possibilty! But I think you may truly have something there! Good critical thinking!!!