GUILTY Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #67

[tmar]

Gawd. It’s only been 45 min the waiting

I'm counting the wait, by the number of Coffees.
Just heating up the jug for another cup, for Coffee 'two'.

 

[oviedo]

What time exactly did the jury begin deliberation? Will they deliberate through lunch? (I hope).

I feel confident of a verdict or guilty in the first degree. Is there a possibility of an illogical wild card on the jury? There always is that possibility.

But this isn’t a game for them. Not They saw and heard it all up close and personal. And they watched dingbat’s face. I think those factors are likely enough to overcome irrationality.

11:18 IIRC (CO time) - @PommyMommy posted the tweet

 

[dixiegirl1035]

What does this mean?

If you go to lunch somewhere oh, you prepay your check so you can run and get back to the courthouse for the verdict after you are texted that the jury has a verdict.

 

[justaparent]

He's a great guy, a wonderful father, that even took his daughter to work whenever he could.
He is a family man, a man of God, that stayed on the ranch to take care of his disabled mother, and had his own business which helped local ranchers. And he volunteered to help save the burros. And he cannot fathom why all of this is happening to him now..... or some nonsense like ^^^^that.

with a little thrown in

ETA: emojis didn’t “take”

 

[crhedBngr]

I think so. What do you think?

Yes. The "please stop" was intentional.

 

[zea mays]

BBM - was this intentional?

I think so. What do you think?

Yes, I do think this was a carefully crafted rebuttal IMO
If this isn't a guilty 1st degree on all counts - my faith in our justice system will be shattered.
JMO

It was. Here's the full context from Sam. BBM.

“He took a bat into Kelsey’s apartment, and he beat her, and he beat her, and he beat her, and he beat her, and he beat her. And in some point in that, the victim says will you please stop,” May says. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

He says he beat her another five times, leaving a bloodbath for someone else to clean up. Then, May says he beat her another five times (per expert) and how many ever times after that. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

We are asking you to please stop this defendant from getting away with murder, and find him guilty on all charges,” May says. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

 

[Area52]

I think this thread is breaking WS—running super wonky...
I wonder how many people are in here right now? On the old platform we could see all the members and number of guests who currently viewing a particular thread—I wonder if the mods can see; I imagine there are a lot of people in here right now.

My icon at the bottom of the page says 1,090 people online now. Doesn't say what thread they are viewing

 

[Kadoober]

I have to ask, though I know this comes up a lot during trials, and I know it rarely works - but...
Is the case being made by the defense one for ineffective assistance of council?

NO case being made by the defense + that asinine statement that alludes to the authenticity of the letters makes me wonder.

I mean really, what innocent person would try to put a hit on.... everyone while jailed?

Gitana, I see you! Would you be so kind as to chime in?

 

[Ultra Violet]

Voting guilty on all counts plus a few extra that his lawyers tossed at him in their closing arguments.

Interesting that the heads up for the verdict is only 20 minutes. If it was an hour the reporters or crew could go back and forth from Colorado Springs, but 20 minutes makes that impossible.

Did anyone ever look up how many hotel rooms are available in Cripple Creek?

moo

 

[zea mays]

One hour down!

 

[scandinavian girl]

I have to put my vote in before verdict, Guilty 1 degree, I hope I´m not too late on page 42, WS is sloooooow

 

[MsJosie]

Thanks I cannot see the to

My icon at the bottom of the page says 1,090 people online now. Doesn't say what thread they are viewing

thanks I cannot see the total views as the WS video expands and is playing over other information. I wondered how many were on WS as it loads s l o w.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

So the defense’s argument is...because he’s an idiot and suffers from moronicity, he should be found innocent of a brutal premeditated murder.
Wow.
That’s an even lamer argument than I thought they would have.

 

[Gardenista]

Live now with KDVR

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[zea mays]

Sam says SF was in the courtroom today.

Yes. With both sides resting their case, I imagine those on the witness list were then allowed in https://twitter.com/mindyb91694740/status/1196505752812294149 …

 

[margarita25]

l'll add my sweetie pie little dog, who sits on my lap watching the screen throughout the case.
She, unlike PF, is no fool.

I don’t know how you animal lovers made it in here...

I know that if Kelsey and her family could see all the support and commitment here in these threads by you all, that they would be very warmed.

I can’t wait to “like” the guilty verdict post!! This man is such a Monster BEAST.

Forum super wonky , sorry if this double posted

ETA:

PS, good luck everyone, not that you need it

 

[Gardenista]

Sam Kraemer TV
4 mins


FRAZEE TRIAL DAY 11 CLOSING ARGUMENTS:
• Judge Scott Sells first read off jury instructions. There are 22 of them. The jury foreman will have six verdict sheets to sign: first-degree murder after deliberation, solicitation to commit first-degree murder (three times) and first-degree murder felony.

• Prosecutor Beth Reed delivered a passionate closing statement for the state, saying Frazee clearly concocted a “premeditated, calculated, cold and cruel” plan to murder Kelsey Berreth. Citing cell phone records and surveillance, Reed says nothing in Frazee’s alibi, which he only sought for Nov. 22, matches what he actually did. Frazee’s handwritten alibi said he was tending to cattle around 2:45 p.m., despite neighbor surveillance showing him leave Berreth’s townhome around 4:30 p.m. “While Kelsey Berreth is planning a future, this man is planning to kill her for months,” Reed says. She said Berreth was not someone that would run off and abandon her child, nor was she suicidal. “He’s the only one with the means, the motive and the evidence supports that killed Kelsey Berreth.” Additionally, Reed said Krystal Kenney didn’t have to come forward, but when she did, she told prosecutors everything. She says Kenney’s story matches the available evidence, while none of Frazee’s story does.

• Normally soft spoken Adam Stiegerwald was as strong spoken as I’ve seen him during his closing argument for Frazee’s defense. “You are being asked to ignore your common sense and the direct evidence that has been presented to you the last two-plus weeks... to believe Krystal Kenney’s story,” he says. He says the entire timeline is made up, citing photos from Berreth’s neighbor’s surveillance camera showing extremely different shadows for the same time period. Stiegerwald says the DA’s office tech expert, Chad Mininger, lied to the jury about that evidence, saying the shadow difference could’ve been caused by clouds or trees. He again stressed the fact Kenney doesn’t come forward until her plea bargain is already signed by the district attorney’s office. “There is no image of Patrick Frazee that supports the prosecution’s case. There is no image of Krystal Kenney that supports the prosecution’s case,” Stiegerwald said. He says testimony from Jonathyn Priest, the blood stain expert, relies heavily on Kenney’s story, and asked if they really believed Kenney. He points out if Frazee really did plan to kill Berreth, why wouldn’t he have done it the night before at Nash Ranch “in the middle of nowhere” than in her townhome? He points out Frazee’s DNA is hardly in Berreth’s townhome and Kenney’s is not altogether. Referring to the jail notes, Stiegerwald says the notes are “proof of (Frazee) being an idiot. Not proof of him doing anything.” Using an analogy, Stiegerwald says the foundation of the state’s case is shaky, and when that happens, it all comes crashing down. He asked the jury see the reasonable doubt and find Frazee not guilty.

• Given 30 minutes for rebuttal, District Attorney Dan May asked the jury to hold Frazee accountable. “We are asking you to consider all the facts in this case, not apply speculation to them,” May said. He said Kenney is actually direct evidence to the crime & that she is not the state’s witness. He says she is Frazee’s witness. May recalled CBI DNA analyst Caitlin Rogers testifying she wasn’t surprised at the absence of Kenney’s DNA inside Berreth’s townhome, noting she wore protective clothing and used bleach. Mays says the defense wants to speculate on the neighbor surveillance but not talk about the photo of Frazee, Berreth and their daughter at the door while Berreth’s holding her Safeway groceries. He said Frazee beat her five times, and somewhere in that, Berreth said “please stop”. Then, he says Frazee beat her another five times, creating a “large bloodbath for someone else to clean up.” After that, he says Frazee beat her another five times, if not more. May closed with “We are asking you to please stop the defendant from getting away with murder and find him guilty on all charges.”

• At 11:18 a.m., the case was handed over to the jury. Four jurors were informed they were chosen as alternates (decided before the jury was actually chosen). We’ll get a 20-minute heads up on the verdict coming in. Judge Scott Sells says he’ll dismiss the jury around 5 p.m. if they don’t get a verdict today.

#KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

 

[tmar]

So the defense’s argument is...because he’s an idiot and suffers from moronicity, he should be found innocent of a brutal premeditated murder.
Wow.
That’s an even lamer argument than I thought they would have.

Probably PF wrote it, demanding this must be their Defence.

 

[justaparent]

If you were defense who would you have put on as a witness and for what purpose?

Also thank you so much again for sharing your expertise as a prosecutor. You uniquely know more than any of us about how this all works.

I don’t think there was anyone they could have put on the witness stand. Maybe they will bring people out during the sentencing phase to talk about what a wonderful guy he is.

 

[gitana1]

Even the judge knows this will come together fast.

MassGuy is right, the defense summed it up perfectly: our client is an idiot. Only an idiot would commit this crime.

Therefore....

We rest their case.

MOO

I laughed out loud. “We rest their case.”! Ha ha!!

 

[Seattle1]

What time exactly did the jury begin deliberation? Will they deliberate through lunch? (I hope).

I feel confident of a verdict or guilty in the first degree. Is there a possibility of an illogical wild card on the jury? There always is that possibility.

But this isn’t a game for them. Not They saw and heard it all up close and personal. And they watched dingbat’s face. I think those factors are likely enough to overcome irrationality.

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
As of 11:18 a.m., the People of the State of Colorado vs. Patrick Frazee is now in the hands of the jury. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

10:23 AM - 18 Nov 2019