GUILTY Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #67

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  • #901
  • #902
Even the judge knows this will come together fast.

MassGuy is right, the defense summed it up perfectly: our client is an idiot. Only an idiot would commit this crime.

Therefore....

We rest their case.

MOO
Defence Council "PF is so Stoopid" How Stoopid is he? Defence council"Well Exactly".
 
  • #903
Tick tock PF, tick tock..
 
  • #904
Voting guilty on all counts plus a few extra that his lawyers tossed at him in their closing arguments.

Interesting that the heads up for the verdict is only 20 minutes. If it was an hour the reporters or crew could go back and forth from Colorado Springs, but 20 minutes makes that impossible.

Did anyone ever look up how many hotel rooms are available in Cripple Creek?

moo
I’m sure they packed a lunch...ha!
 
  • #905
No promises I got them all... :oops: I am going with Elise's marker for the time jury deliberations began (11:15 a.m.) since the first tweets were timestamped 11:18. It makes sense to me that it would have taken about 3 minutes to get outside and send those tweets. MOO

NOV 18, JURY DELIBERATIONS BEGIN

Nikki Battiste on Twitter
BREAKING: The jurors in the #PatrickFrazee murder trial in the death of his fiance, #KelseyBerreth is now beginning their deliberations. They’re considering eight charges, including first degree murder, solicitation to murder and tampering with a deceased body. @CBSNews
11:18 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Clayton Sandell on Twitter
BREAKING: The jury in the #PatrickFrazee trial is now deliberating. His defense attorney concluded by questioning the credibility of Krystal Lee and evidence, saying “This case has been built on a foundation it cannot support. Patrick Frazee is not guilty.” #KelseyBerreth @ABC
11:18 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Clayton Sandell @Clayton_Sandell
BREAKING: The jury in the #PatrickFrazee trial is now deliberating. His defense attorney concluded by questioning the credibility of Krystal Lee and evidence, saying “This case has been built on a foundation it cannot support. Patrick Frazee is not guilty.” #KelseyBerreth @ABC

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
BREAKING: Jury begins deliberations in #PatrickFrazee first-degree murder trial after 10 days of testimony and dozens of witnesses.
@csgazette #KelseyBerreth

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
UPDATE: In closing arguments, #PatrickFrazee's public defender, Adam Steigerwald, blasts prosecution as having made up a case with an unbelievable witness, Krystal Lee. He says Frazee is a "fool" and "idiot," but he's no murderer of #KelseyBerreth. @csgazette

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
"You are being asked to ignore your common sense and the direct evidence," public defender says. "And to listen to the circumstnatial evidence that supports a story made up by Krystal Lee after" she signed plea deal.
@csgazette #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
11:22 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 39s39 seconds ago
As of 11:18 a.m., the People of the State of Colorado vs. Patrick Frazee is now in the hands of the jury. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Allison Sylte‏ @AllisonSylte 1m1 minute ago
Notably, Patrick Frazee’s public defender called him a fool and stupid, but said that’s not reason alone to convict him. He was talking about the jailhouse notes where Frazee apparently asked for help killing key witnesses in the case.

Jakob Rodgers‏ @JakobRodgers 2m2 minutes ago
Public defender Adam Steigerwald blasts a district attorney's investigator, saying he fabricated a timeline of events, and misled the jury when it came to surveillance photos of #PatrickFrazee at #KelseyBerreth's home the day of the alleged murder.

Jakob Rodgers‏ @JakobRodgers 1m1 minute ago
"It is OK to make mistakes, but you cannot build an entire case on it and refuse to acknowledge it," said Steigerwald, #PatrickFrazee's public defender. "And that is what has happened in this case

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 54s55 seconds ago
“You are being asked to ignore your common sense and the direct evidence that has been presented to you the last two plus weeks... to believe Krystal Kenney’s story,” says defense attorney Adam Stiegerwald. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
As of 11:15, the jury is deliberating whether #PatrickFrazee killed #KelseyBerreth. Defense, in closing arguments, focused on the holes in the case: no body, no murder weapon, no surveillance of Frazee bringing out a body. Also, attacked Krystal’s cred

Jakob Rodgers‏ @JakobRodgers 1m1 minute ago
#PatrickFrazee's defense attorney asks: Why did Frazee decide to kill #KelseyBerreth on Thanksgiving Day -- of all days?
"It is the worst plan anybody could come up with," he says.
@csgazette

Jakob Rodgers‏ @JakobRodgers 60s60 seconds ago
"Is there a day of the year where people are less likely to be alone and less likely to be missed, less likely to speak to your family, than Thanksgiving Day?" says #PatrickFrazee's public defender, Adam Steigerwald.
@csgazette #KelseyBerreth

Jakob Rodgers @JakobRodgers
#PatrickFrazee's defense attorney asks: Why did Frazee decide to kill #KelseyBerreth on Thanksgiving Day -- of all days? "It is the worst plan anybody could come up with," he says. @csgazette

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 1m1 minute ago
Stiegerwald says there’s no image of Frazee or Kenney that supports the prosecution’s case. Also, he says the tote is heavy empty & that Frazee couldn’t move quickly with it if a body was inside. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

EK‏Verified account @EllenKilloran 42s43 seconds ago
But additional witness testimony in trial's later days was very damning for Frazee. He allegedly spoke about disposing of her body, and asked a jailmate to kill witnesses and a lead investigator. Hasn't been a whiff of any other person who might be responsible. #PatrickFrazee

Jakob Rodgers‏ @JakobRodgers 1m1 minute ago
"If it is your plan to murder someone, you don't tell half the people you know," says #PatrickFrazee's public defender, Adam Steigerwald. "Patrick Frazee came off like a complete and total fool. That doesnt make him guilty."
@csgazette #KelseyBerreth

Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV
Stiegerwald says there’s no image of Frazee or Kenney that supports the prosecution’s case. Also, he says the tote is heavy empty & that Frazee couldn’t move quickly with it if a body was inside. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 40s41 seconds ago
He says all the expert opinions are based on Kenney’s story. Using an analogy, he says the foundation is shaky, and when that happens, it all comes crashing down. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Kelsey Souto‏Verified account @KelseySouto 1m1 minute ago
The Patrick Frazee case is now in the hands of 12 jurors. He faces first degree murder, solicitation to commit murder and tampering with a deceased body. #kmvt11

Jennifer Meckles @jennifermeckles
After 10 days of testimony and more than 60 witnesses, this morning we heard closing arguments in the #KelseyBerreth murder trial. #9News

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Krystal Lee testified Kelsey’s last words were “please stop.” Dan May ends his closing argument with an appeal to jurors: "We ask you today to 'please stop' this man from getting away with murder."
11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Blood expert testified that the victim was beaten to death, maybe 15 blows or more. Dan Man stands before jurors and says “He beat her. And he beat her. And he beat her...” He repeats this 15 times
11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Prosecution got a rebuttal, led by 4th Judicial District Dan May. He appealed to the emotions – reminding people of the testimony from victims family & coworkers. That she had a daughter
11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Re: the testimony from people who said Patrick made troubling comments after Kelsey disappeared, or that he asked for help killing witnesses -- defense said Frazee freaked out ahead of trial. Says its not proof of evidence of guilt, "Its proof of him being an idiot”
11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Defense questions why Frazee would kill Kelsey during the day, at her home, on a busy holiday when people are more likely to be with family. “It’s the worst plan anybody could come up with,” defense says
11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
He also attacks Krystal’s credibility. She testified she wanted police to find her. Steigerwald says she didn’t act a woman who wanted to be caught. Calls her whole story "absurd," says nobody would behave that way and it’s not believable
11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Defense next goes through a list of things missing in the case: including any images of Patrick covered in blood, pictures of him coming/going with a tote from Kelseys house, no DNA of Krystal Lee at murder/clean-up scene
11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Steigerwald says “If the timeline is wrong, then the whole thing comes crumbling down”
11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 59s59 seconds ago
Referring to the jail notes, Stiegerwald says that’s “proof of (Frazee) being an idiot. Not proof of him doing anything.” He says he’s dealing with a lot, including the death of his father and sibling battle for his father’s assets. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

Elise Schmelzer‏Verified account @EliseSchmelzer 44s44 seconds ago
But defense did not address the phone location data that showed #KelseyBerreth and #PatrickFrazee’s phone were traveling together after Thanksgiving, after the last time Frazee said he saw Berreth.

Jennifer Kovaleski‏Verified account @JennKovaleski 39s40 seconds ago
#BREAKING: The jury is now deliberating in #PatrickFrazee’s murder trial. Defense wrapped up its closing arguments in about 30 minutes. Their biggest argument is the timeline was made up, & created by investigators to fit Krystal Lee Kenney’s story. @DenverChannel #kelseyberreth

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Now its time for the jurors to deliberate. Will be interesting to see how long they take for that process. We will be staying near the courthouse until we hear of an upcoming verdict #KelseyBerreth #9News
11:32 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 49s49 seconds ago
He also said if Frazee had been planning this for months, he has “the worst plan in the world.” Stiegerwald says he could’ve killed Berreth the night prior at Nash Ranch, “in the middle of nowhere.” @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
DA Dan May was given 30 minutes for rebuttal. He says the defense is asking the jury to speculate instead of actually looking at all the facts. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
11:33 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
Defense did address suspicious comments witnesses said #PatrickFrazee made about wanting to kill #KelseyBerreth and “no body, no crime.” Attorney said Frazee was an “idiot” but said nobody who planned to actually murder would tell half of town.
11:33 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 51s51 seconds ago
May says Kenney’s plea bargain, whether they like it or not, is built on her telling the truth. He says her story is corroborated by evidence. “She is direct evidence... She is Patrick Frazee’s witness,” May said. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
May says Kenney pointed out the burn area and Nash Ranch, and the timeline police built matches her story, while Frazee’s story “doesn’t match it at all.” @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
11:36 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 2m2 minutes ago
May noted CBI DNA expert Caitlin Rogers say she wasn’t surprised at the absence of Kenney’s DNA from inside Berreth’s townhome, citing her wearing protective clothing and using bleach. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 41s41 seconds ago
Stiegerwald had drawn attention to the fact that Kenney’s DNA wasn’t found and that Frazee’s was found in small ratios. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Elise Schmelzer @EliseSchmelzer
Defense did address suspicious comments witnesses said #PatrickFrazee made about wanting to kill #KelseyBerreth and “no body, no crime.” Attorney said Frazee was an “idiot” but said nobody who planned to actually murder would tell half of town.

Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV
Stiegerwald had drawn attention to the fact that Kenney’s DNA wasn’t found and that Frazee’s was found in small ratios. @KOAA
#KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Steve Patterson @PattersonNBC
The trial of #PatrickFrazee is now in the hands of a twelve member jury. Frazee is accused of killing his fiancée #KelseyBerreth last Thanksgiving. After a year of twists and heartache, followed by two weeks of bombshell testimony... it’s now the final hours. @NBCNews

Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV
May noted CBI DNA expert Caitlin Rogers say she wasn’t surprised at the absence of Kenney’s DNA from inside Berreth’s townhome, citing her wearing protective clothing and using bleach.
@KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 39s39 seconds ago
“He took a bat into Kelsey’s apartment, and he beat her, and he beat her, and he beat her, and he beat her, and he beat her. And in some point in that, the victim says will you please stop,” May says. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV
He says he beat her another five times, leaving a bloodbath for someone else to clean up. Then, May says he beat her another five times (per expert) and how many ever times after that.
@KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 2m2 minutes ago
We are asking you to please stop this defendant from getting away with murder, and find him guilty on all charges,” May says. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 2m2 minutes ago
Again, the case is in the jury’s hands. We’ll get a 20-minute heads up (not an hour like previously thought) and go from there. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Allison Sylte‏ @AllisonSylte 1m1 minute ago
Notably, Patrick Frazee’s public defender called him a fool and stupid, but said that’s not reason alone to convict him. He was talking about the jailhouse notes where Frazee apparently asked for help killing key witnesses in the case.

Lance Benzel on Twitter
Is #PatrickFrazee a murderous manipulator, or a victim of lies? Only jury can say now. Deliberations in progress. Stay tuned for verdict
 
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#PatrickFrazee's defense attorney asks: Why did Frazee decide to kill #KelseyBerreth on Thanksgiving Day -- of all days?
"It is the worst plan anybody could come up with," he says.
@csgazette
Jakob Rodgers on Twitter

Not that it even matters, or that PF chose the date because he's a criminal mastermind, but I actually disagree about Thanksgiving being the worst day to do this, because most people would just expect you were spending the day with your fiance. It's a break from normal routines. Most things are closed for business. No work to miss. If you don't show at your daily coffee place or gym, no one is going to think to look for you. Neighbors may assume you are gone visiting family for the holiday. No appointments or meetings to miss or not show and raise any flags. If you didn't return friend or family texts or phone calls, people would likely just assume you are busy celebrating with your fiance and daughter. The only people who could have possible been expecting KB for Thanksgiving dinner was PF's horrible family, and he wasn't acting like they were even a couple.
 
  • #907
I have to ask, though I know this comes up a lot during trials, and I know it rarely works - but...
Is the case being made by the defense one for ineffective assistance of council?

NO case being made by the defense + that asinine statement that alludes to the authenticity of the letters makes me wonder.

I mean really, what innocent person would try to put a hit on.... everyone while jailed?

Gitana, I see you! Would you be so kind as to chime in?

Yes. It’s been asked many times here soLots of people are worried.

I don’t think any of the attorneys are however.

His team was solid. They just didn’t have anything to work with. I saw nothing they did or didn’t do that would rise to the level of ineffective assistance.

Of course sometimes things come out later- like failure to introduce exculpatory evidence.

But if these are CO public defenders I’ve been very impressed with CO public defenders from other counties. I’m assuming state wide they’re pretty good.

Anyhow, lack of evidence or argument doesn’t make counsel ineffective. They worked with what they had which was nothing.

Successful appeals on that basis are super rare because they are super hard to win. Any appeal is for that matter.
 
  • #908
No promises I got them all... :oops: I am going with Elise's marker for the time jury deliberations began (11:15 a.m.) since the first tweets were timestamped 11:18. It makes sense to me that it would have taken about 3 minutes to get outside and send those tweets. MOO

NOV 18, JURY DELIBERATIONS BEGIN

Nikki Battiste on Twitter
BREAKING: The jurors in the #PatrickFrazee murder trial in the death of his fiance, #KelseyBerreth is now beginning their deliberations. They’re considering eight charges, including first degree murder, solicitation to murder and tampering with a deceased body. @CBSNews
11:18 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Clayton Sandell on Twitter
BREAKING: The jury in the #PatrickFrazee trial is now deliberating. His defense attorney concluded by questioning the credibility of Krystal Lee and evidence, saying “This case has been built on a foundation it cannot support. Patrick Frazee is not guilty.” #KelseyBerreth @ABC
11:18 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Clayton Sandell @Clayton_Sandell
BREAKING: The jury in the #PatrickFrazee trial is now deliberating. His defense attorney concluded by questioning the credibility of Krystal Lee and evidence, saying “This case has been built on a foundation it cannot support. Patrick Frazee is not guilty.” #KelseyBerreth @ABC

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
BREAKING: Jury begins deliberations in #PatrickFrazee first-degree murder trial after 10 days of testimony and dozens of witnesses.
@csgazette #KelseyBerreth

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
UPDATE: In closing arguments, #PatrickFrazee's public defender, Adam Steigerwald, blasts prosecution as having made up a case with an unbelievable witness, Krystal Lee. He says Frazee is a "fool" and "idiot," but he's no murderer of #KelseyBerreth. @csgazette

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
"You are being asked to ignore your common sense and the direct evidence," public defender says. "And to listen to the circumstnatial evidence that supports a story made up by Krystal Lee after" she signed plea deal.
@csgazette #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
11:22 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 39s39 seconds ago
As of 11:18 a.m., the People of the State of Colorado vs. Patrick Frazee is now in the hands of the jury. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Allison Sylte‏ @AllisonSylte 1m1 minute ago
Notably, Patrick Frazee’s public defender called him a fool and stupid, but said that’s not reason alone to convict him. He was talking about the jailhouse notes where Frazee apparently asked for help killing key witnesses in the case.

Jakob Rodgers‏ @JakobRodgers 2m2 minutes ago
Public defender Adam Steigerwald blasts a district attorney's investigator, saying he fabricated a timeline of events, and misled the jury when it came to surveillance photos of #PatrickFrazee at #KelseyBerreth's home the day of the alleged murder.

Jakob Rodgers‏ @JakobRodgers 1m1 minute ago
"It is OK to make mistakes, but you cannot build an entire case on it and refuse to acknowledge it," said Steigerwald, #PatrickFrazee's public defender. "And that is what has happened in this case

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 54s55 seconds ago
“You are being asked to ignore your common sense and the direct evidence that has been presented to you the last two plus weeks... to believe Krystal Kenney’s story,” says defense attorney Adam Stiegerwald. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
As of 11:15, the jury is deliberating whether #PatrickFrazee killed #KelseyBerreth. Defense, in closing arguments, focused on the holes in the case: no body, no murder weapon, no surveillance of Frazee bringing out a body. Also, attacked Krystal’s cred

Jakob Rodgers‏ @JakobRodgers 1m1 minute ago
#PatrickFrazee's defense attorney asks: Why did Frazee decide to kill #KelseyBerreth on Thanksgiving Day -- of all days?
"It is the worst plan anybody could come up with," he says.
@csgazette

Jakob Rodgers‏ @JakobRodgers 60s60 seconds ago
"Is there a day of the year where people are less likely to be alone and less likely to be missed, less likely to speak to your family, than Thanksgiving Day?" says #PatrickFrazee's public defender, Adam Steigerwald.
@csgazette #KelseyBerreth

Jakob Rodgers @JakobRodgers
#PatrickFrazee's defense attorney asks: Why did Frazee decide to kill #KelseyBerreth on Thanksgiving Day -- of all days? "It is the worst plan anybody could come up with," he says. @csgazette

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 1m1 minute ago
Stiegerwald says there’s no image of Frazee or Kenney that supports the prosecution’s case. Also, he says the tote is heavy empty & that Frazee couldn’t move quickly with it if a body was inside. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

EK‏Verified account @EllenKilloran 42s43 seconds ago
But additional witness testimony in trial's later days was very damning for Frazee. He allegedly spoke about disposing of her body, and asked a jailmate to kill witnesses and a lead investigator. Hasn't been a whiff of any other person who might be responsible. #PatrickFrazee

Jakob Rodgers‏ @JakobRodgers 1m1 minute ago
"If it is your plan to murder someone, you don't tell half the people you know," says #PatrickFrazee's public defender, Adam Steigerwald. "Patrick Frazee came off like a complete and total fool. That doesnt make him guilty."
@csgazette #KelseyBerreth

Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV
Stiegerwald says there’s no image of Frazee or Kenney that supports the prosecution’s case. Also, he says the tote is heavy empty & that Frazee couldn’t move quickly with it if a body was inside. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 40s41 seconds ago
He says all the expert opinions are based on Kenney’s story. Using an analogy, he says the foundation is shaky, and when that happens, it all comes crashing down. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Kelsey Souto‏Verified account @KelseySouto 1m1 minute ago
The Patrick Frazee case is now in the hands of 12 jurors. He faces first degree murder, solicitation to commit murder and tampering with a deceased body. #kmvt11

Jennifer Meckles @jennifermeckles
After 10 days of testimony and more than 60 witnesses, this morning we heard closing arguments in the #KelseyBerreth murder trial. #9News

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 59s59 seconds ago
Referring to the jail notes, Stiegerwald says that’s “proof of (Frazee) being an idiot. Not proof of him doing anything.” He says he’s dealing with a lot, including the death of his father and sibling battle for his father’s assets. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

Elise Schmelzer‏Verified account @EliseSchmelzer 44s44 seconds ago
But defense did not address the phone location data that showed #KelseyBerreth and #PatrickFrazee’s phone were traveling together after Thanksgiving, after the last time Frazee said he saw Berreth.

Jennifer Kovaleski‏Verified account @JennKovaleski 39s40 seconds ago
#BREAKING: The jury is now deliberating in #PatrickFrazee’s murder trial. Defense wrapped up its closing arguments in about 30 minutes. Their biggest argument is the timeline was made up, & created by investigators to fit Krystal Lee Kenney’s story. @DenverChannel #kelseyberreth

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Now its time for the jurors to deliberate. Will be interesting to see how long they take for that process. We will be staying near the courthouse until we hear of an upcoming verdict #KelseyBerreth #9News
11:32 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 49s49 seconds ago
He also said if Frazee had been planning this for months, he has “the worst plan in the world.” Stiegerwald says he could’ve killed Berreth the night prior at Nash Ranch, “in the middle of nowhere.” @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
DA Dan May was given 30 minutes for rebuttal. He says the defense is asking the jury to speculate instead of actually looking at all the facts. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
11:33 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
Defense did address suspicious comments witnesses said #PatrickFrazee made about wanting to kill #KelseyBerreth and “no body, no crime.” Attorney said Frazee was an “idiot” but said nobody who planned to actually murder would tell half of town.
11:33 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 51s51 seconds ago
May says Kenney’s plea bargain, whether they like it or not, is built on her telling the truth. He says her story is corroborated by evidence. “She is direct evidence... She is Patrick Frazee’s witness,” May said. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
May says Kenney pointed out the burn area and Nash Ranch, and the timeline police built matches her story, while Frazee’s story “doesn’t match it at all.” @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
11:36 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 2m2 minutes ago
May noted CBI DNA expert Caitlin Rogers say she wasn’t surprised at the absence of Kenney’s DNA from inside Berreth’s townhome, citing her wearing protective clothing and using bleach. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 41s41 seconds ago
Stiegerwald had drawn attention to the fact that Kenney’s DNA wasn’t found and that Frazee’s was found in small ratios. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Elise Schmelzer @EliseSchmelzer
Defense did address suspicious comments witnesses said #PatrickFrazee made about wanting to kill #KelseyBerreth and “no body, no crime.” Attorney said Frazee was an “idiot” but said nobody who planned to actually murder would tell half of town.

Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV
Stiegerwald had drawn attention to the fact that Kenney’s DNA wasn’t found and that Frazee’s was found in small ratios. @KOAA
#KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Steve Patterson @PattersonNBC
The trial of #PatrickFrazee is now in the hands of a twelve member jury. Frazee is accused of killing his fiancée #KelseyBerreth last Thanksgiving. After a year of twists and heartache, followed by two weeks of bombshell testimony... it’s now the final hours. @NBCNews

Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV
May noted CBI DNA expert Caitlin Rogers say she wasn’t surprised at the absence of Kenney’s DNA from inside Berreth’s townhome, citing her wearing protective clothing and using bleach.
@KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 39s39 seconds ago
“He took a bat into Kelsey’s apartment, and he beat her, and he beat her, and he beat her, and he beat her, and he beat her. And in some point in that, the victim says will you please stop,” May says. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV
He says he beat her another five times, leaving a bloodbath for someone else to clean up. Then, May says he beat her another five times (per expert) and how many ever times after that.
@KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 2m2 minutes ago
We are asking you to please stop this defendant from getting away with murder, and find him guilty on all charges,” May says. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 2m2 minutes ago
Again, the case is in the jury’s hands. We’ll get a 20-minute heads up (not an hour like previously thought) and go from there. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Allison Sylte‏ @AllisonSylte 1m1 minute ago
Notably, Patrick Frazee’s public defender called him a fool and stupid, but said that’s not reason alone to convict him. He was talking about the jailhouse notes where Frazee apparently asked for help killing key witnesses in the case.

Lance Benzel on Twitter
Is #PatrickFrazee a murderous manipulator, or a victim of lies? Only jury can say now. Deliberations in progress. Stay tuned for verdict

Oh @PommyMommy we don’t deserve you! Thank you!
 
  • #909
So hoping the baby continues to stay with the Berreths where she'll be safe.

Different state but I certainly hope that what happened to the Powell children cannot possibly happen to baby K. No supervised visitation no visitation whatsoever.
 
  • #910
No promises I got them all... :oops: I am going with Elise's marker for the time jury deliberations began (11:15 a.m.) since the first tweets were timestamped 11:18. It makes sense to me that it would have taken about 3 minutes to get outside and send those tweets. MOO

NOV 18, JURY DELIBERATIONS BEGIN

Nikki Battiste on Twitter
BREAKING: The jurors in the #PatrickFrazee murder trial in the death of his fiance, #KelseyBerreth is now beginning their deliberations. They’re considering eight charges, including first degree murder, solicitation to murder and tampering with a deceased body. @CBSNews
11:18 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Clayton Sandell on Twitter
BREAKING: The jury in the #PatrickFrazee trial is now deliberating. His defense attorney concluded by questioning the credibility of Krystal Lee and evidence, saying “This case has been built on a foundation it cannot support. Patrick Frazee is not guilty.” #KelseyBerreth @ABC
11:18 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Clayton Sandell @Clayton_Sandell
BREAKING: The jury in the #PatrickFrazee trial is now deliberating. His defense attorney concluded by questioning the credibility of Krystal Lee and evidence, saying “This case has been built on a foundation it cannot support. Patrick Frazee is not guilty.” #KelseyBerreth @ABC

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
BREAKING: Jury begins deliberations in #PatrickFrazee first-degree murder trial after 10 days of testimony and dozens of witnesses.
@csgazette #KelseyBerreth

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
UPDATE: In closing arguments, #PatrickFrazee's public defender, Adam Steigerwald, blasts prosecution as having made up a case with an unbelievable witness, Krystal Lee. He says Frazee is a "fool" and "idiot," but he's no murderer of #KelseyBerreth. @csgazette

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
"You are being asked to ignore your common sense and the direct evidence," public defender says. "And to listen to the circumstnatial evidence that supports a story made up by Krystal Lee after" she signed plea deal.
@csgazette #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
11:22 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 39s39 seconds ago
As of 11:18 a.m., the People of the State of Colorado vs. Patrick Frazee is now in the hands of the jury. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Allison Sylte‏ @AllisonSylte 1m1 minute ago
Notably, Patrick Frazee’s public defender called him a fool and stupid, but said that’s not reason alone to convict him. He was talking about the jailhouse notes where Frazee apparently asked for help killing key witnesses in the case.

Jakob Rodgers‏ @JakobRodgers 2m2 minutes ago
Public defender Adam Steigerwald blasts a district attorney's investigator, saying he fabricated a timeline of events, and misled the jury when it came to surveillance photos of #PatrickFrazee at #KelseyBerreth's home the day of the alleged murder.

Jakob Rodgers‏ @JakobRodgers 1m1 minute ago
"It is OK to make mistakes, but you cannot build an entire case on it and refuse to acknowledge it," said Steigerwald, #PatrickFrazee's public defender. "And that is what has happened in this case

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 54s55 seconds ago
“You are being asked to ignore your common sense and the direct evidence that has been presented to you the last two plus weeks... to believe Krystal Kenney’s story,” says defense attorney Adam Stiegerwald. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
As of 11:15, the jury is deliberating whether #PatrickFrazee killed #KelseyBerreth. Defense, in closing arguments, focused on the holes in the case: no body, no murder weapon, no surveillance of Frazee bringing out a body. Also, attacked Krystal’s cred

Jakob Rodgers‏ @JakobRodgers 1m1 minute ago
#PatrickFrazee's defense attorney asks: Why did Frazee decide to kill #KelseyBerreth on Thanksgiving Day -- of all days?
"It is the worst plan anybody could come up with," he says.
@csgazette

Jakob Rodgers‏ @JakobRodgers 60s60 seconds ago
"Is there a day of the year where people are less likely to be alone and less likely to be missed, less likely to speak to your family, than Thanksgiving Day?" says #PatrickFrazee's public defender, Adam Steigerwald.
@csgazette #KelseyBerreth

Jakob Rodgers @JakobRodgers
#PatrickFrazee's defense attorney asks: Why did Frazee decide to kill #KelseyBerreth on Thanksgiving Day -- of all days? "It is the worst plan anybody could come up with," he says. @csgazette

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 1m1 minute ago
Stiegerwald says there’s no image of Frazee or Kenney that supports the prosecution’s case. Also, he says the tote is heavy empty & that Frazee couldn’t move quickly with it if a body was inside. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

EK‏Verified account @EllenKilloran 42s43 seconds ago
But additional witness testimony in trial's later days was very damning for Frazee. He allegedly spoke about disposing of her body, and asked a jailmate to kill witnesses and a lead investigator. Hasn't been a whiff of any other person who might be responsible. #PatrickFrazee

Jakob Rodgers‏ @JakobRodgers 1m1 minute ago
"If it is your plan to murder someone, you don't tell half the people you know," says #PatrickFrazee's public defender, Adam Steigerwald. "Patrick Frazee came off like a complete and total fool. That doesnt make him guilty."
@csgazette #KelseyBerreth

Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV
Stiegerwald says there’s no image of Frazee or Kenney that supports the prosecution’s case. Also, he says the tote is heavy empty & that Frazee couldn’t move quickly with it if a body was inside. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 40s41 seconds ago
He says all the expert opinions are based on Kenney’s story. Using an analogy, he says the foundation is shaky, and when that happens, it all comes crashing down. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Kelsey Souto‏Verified account @KelseySouto 1m1 minute ago
The Patrick Frazee case is now in the hands of 12 jurors. He faces first degree murder, solicitation to commit murder and tampering with a deceased body. #kmvt11

Jennifer Meckles @jennifermeckles
After 10 days of testimony and more than 60 witnesses, this morning we heard closing arguments in the #KelseyBerreth murder trial. #9News

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 59s59 seconds ago
Referring to the jail notes, Stiegerwald says that’s “proof of (Frazee) being an idiot. Not proof of him doing anything.” He says he’s dealing with a lot, including the death of his father and sibling battle for his father’s assets. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

Elise Schmelzer‏Verified account @EliseSchmelzer 44s44 seconds ago
But defense did not address the phone location data that showed #KelseyBerreth and #PatrickFrazee’s phone were traveling together after Thanksgiving, after the last time Frazee said he saw Berreth.

Jennifer Kovaleski‏Verified account @JennKovaleski 39s40 seconds ago
#BREAKING: The jury is now deliberating in #PatrickFrazee’s murder trial. Defense wrapped up its closing arguments in about 30 minutes. Their biggest argument is the timeline was made up, & created by investigators to fit Krystal Lee Kenney’s story. @DenverChannel #kelseyberreth

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Now its time for the jurors to deliberate. Will be interesting to see how long they take for that process. We will be staying near the courthouse until we hear of an upcoming verdict #KelseyBerreth #9News
11:32 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 49s49 seconds ago
He also said if Frazee had been planning this for months, he has “the worst plan in the world.” Stiegerwald says he could’ve killed Berreth the night prior at Nash Ranch, “in the middle of nowhere.” @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
DA Dan May was given 30 minutes for rebuttal. He says the defense is asking the jury to speculate instead of actually looking at all the facts. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
11:33 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
Defense did address suspicious comments witnesses said #PatrickFrazee made about wanting to kill #KelseyBerreth and “no body, no crime.” Attorney said Frazee was an “idiot” but said nobody who planned to actually murder would tell half of town.
11:33 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 51s51 seconds ago
May says Kenney’s plea bargain, whether they like it or not, is built on her telling the truth. He says her story is corroborated by evidence. “She is direct evidence... She is Patrick Frazee’s witness,” May said. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
May says Kenney pointed out the burn area and Nash Ranch, and the timeline police built matches her story, while Frazee’s story “doesn’t match it at all.” @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
11:36 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 2m2 minutes ago
May noted CBI DNA expert Caitlin Rogers say she wasn’t surprised at the absence of Kenney’s DNA from inside Berreth’s townhome, citing her wearing protective clothing and using bleach. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 41s41 seconds ago
Stiegerwald had drawn attention to the fact that Kenney’s DNA wasn’t found and that Frazee’s was found in small ratios. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Elise Schmelzer @EliseSchmelzer
Defense did address suspicious comments witnesses said #PatrickFrazee made about wanting to kill #KelseyBerreth and “no body, no crime.” Attorney said Frazee was an “idiot” but said nobody who planned to actually murder would tell half of town.

Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV
Stiegerwald had drawn attention to the fact that Kenney’s DNA wasn’t found and that Frazee’s was found in small ratios. @KOAA
#KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Steve Patterson @PattersonNBC
The trial of #PatrickFrazee is now in the hands of a twelve member jury. Frazee is accused of killing his fiancée #KelseyBerreth last Thanksgiving. After a year of twists and heartache, followed by two weeks of bombshell testimony... it’s now the final hours. @NBCNews

Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV
May noted CBI DNA expert Caitlin Rogers say she wasn’t surprised at the absence of Kenney’s DNA from inside Berreth’s townhome, citing her wearing protective clothing and using bleach.
@KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 39s39 seconds ago
“He took a bat into Kelsey’s apartment, and he beat her, and he beat her, and he beat her, and he beat her, and he beat her. And in some point in that, the victim says will you please stop,” May says. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV
He says he beat her another five times, leaving a bloodbath for someone else to clean up. Then, May says he beat her another five times (per expert) and how many ever times after that.
@KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 2m2 minutes ago
We are asking you to please stop this defendant from getting away with murder, and find him guilty on all charges,” May says. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 2m2 minutes ago
Again, the case is in the jury’s hands. We’ll get a 20-minute heads up (not an hour like previously thought) and go from there. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Allison Sylte‏ @AllisonSylte 1m1 minute ago
Notably, Patrick Frazee’s public defender called him a fool and stupid, but said that’s not reason alone to convict him. He was talking about the jailhouse notes where Frazee apparently asked for help killing key witnesses in the case.

Lance Benzel on Twitter
Is #PatrickFrazee a murderous manipulator, or a victim of lies? Only jury can say now. Deliberations in progress. Stay tuned for verdict

You missed a spot, (:wink: )

Heehee JK Pommy! :D
 
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I have read conflicting reports that he decided not to talk to them and reports that they didn’t want to talk to him. I’m not sure what is correct.
First of all, I don't believe for one minute that he 'accidentally' called the public defenders office. Every inmate knows the difference between Public Defenders and District Attorneys. It was no mistake.

In my mind, JB hoped to 'sell' those notes to the defense , or trade them for something. If these were private defense attorneys and not public defenders, he may have gotten some kind of deal.

When that was a dead end, he went on and called the prosecution. JMO
 
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Sam Kraemer
@SamKraemerTV

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We are asking you to please stop this defendant from getting away with murder, and find him guilty on all charges,” May says.
@KOAA
#KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
BBM:

Oh, Man...just seeing this.

This right here is oratorical genius on display.

He reminded the jury of KB's last words.

And implored them to stop PF in the same way that KB implored PF to stop.

He's Beyond Brilliant.

He delivered the knockout punch.

JMO.
 
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Imagine your own defense team pleading your case with the excuse that you're an idiot and stupid --so logically you couldn't have committed this crime ?
It'd be hilariously funny if this wasn't so tragic.
 
  • #914
I think so. What do you think?
Yes, if you read the tweet chain from Sam, I believe it is.

Sam Kraemer
“He took a bat into Kelsey’s apartment, and he beat her, and he beat her, and he beat her, and he beat her, and he beat her. And in some point in that, the victim says will you please stop,” May says.

He says he beat her another five times, leaving a bloodbath for someone else to clean up. Then, May says he beat her another five times (per expert) and how many ever times after that.

We are asking you to please stop this defendant from getting away with murder, and find him guilty on all charges,” May says.

eta: @zea mays, I see you answered this!! Sorry, server sooo slow, I didn't see!
 
  • #915
Kelsey Souto on Twitter
The defense argued there is no blood or DNA evidence found on Patrick Frazee. His DNA wasn’t found in Kelseys condo either. There is no video of him leaving her condo with a black tote. Krystal is also never seen on surveillance coming or going from the condo.
12:24 PM - 18 Nov 2019

Allison Sylte on Twitter
Looking back at my notes, here's a very choice quote from #PatrickFrazee's public defender: “He acts a fool, and he starts to freak out in 11 months of waiting... “It’s proof of him being an idiot, it’s not proof he committed a murder, it’s not proof he killed Kelsey.”
12:24 PM - 18 Nov 2019
 
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Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
And with that, the case in now in jurys hands. They will deliberate, we dont know how long. We'll be in or near the courthouse waiting for word of a verdict.

11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Krystal Lee testified Kelsey’s last words were “please stop.” Dan May ends his closing argument with an appeal to jurors: "We ask you today to 'please stop' this man from getting away with murder."

11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Blood expert testified that the victim was beaten to death, maybe 15 blows or more. Dan Man stands before jurors and says “He beat her. And he beat her. And he beat her...” He repeats this 15 times

11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Prosecution got a rebuttal, led by 4th Judicial District Dan May. He appealed to the emotions – reminding people of the testimony from victims family & coworkers. That she had a daughter

11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Re: the testimony from people who said Patrick made troubling comments after Kelsey disappeared, or that he asked for help killing witnesses -- defense said Frazee freaked out ahead of trial. Says its not proof of evidence of guilt, "Its proof of him being an idiot”

11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Defense questions why Frazee would kill Kelsey during the day, at her home, on a busy holiday when people are more likely to be with family. “It’s the worst plan anybody could come up with,” defense says

11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
He also attacks Krystal’s credibility. She testified she wanted police to find her. Steigerwald says she didn’t act a woman who wanted to be caught. Calls her whole story "absurd," says nobody would behave that way and it’s not believable

11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Defense next goes through a list of things missing in the case: including any images of Patrick covered in blood, pictures of him coming/going with a tote from Kelseys house, no DNA of Krystal Lee at murder/clean-up scene

11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Steigerwald says “If the timeline is wrong, then the whole thing comes crumbling down”

11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Defense first calls the prosecution’s timeline of events into question – saying the time of surveillance video capturing Frazee outside Kelsey’s home on the day of the alleged murder is wrong, which means the timeline is “made up.”

11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Prosecution ends closing arguments after about an hour. Then it was the defenses turn for closings. Public Defender Adam Steigerwald was the one to speak

11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Prosecution acknowledges that motive may be unclear, and tells jury its ok to wonder – was it about custody? Money? Hatred toward victim? Prosecution says determining motive isn’t part of the jurys job in deciding if Frazee is guilty or not.

11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Charges include First degree murder, Solicitation for Murder (3x) and Tampering with deceased human body. Prosecution walks jury through each charge and argues why Frazee is guilty of each

11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Prosecutors makes a case for the credibility of key witness, Krystal Lee. Reminded them of her testimony, then explained how phone, DNA, blood, and surveillance evidence all back up her story.

11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Prosecution says Kelsey was a woman planning her future during her last days, while at the same time the man she was planning that future with (Frazee) was planning her murder.

11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles‏Verified account @jennifermeckles
Prosecutor Beth Reed started closing arguments by pointing at the door, saying “We all wish #KelseyBerreth could walk through that door right now.” Then she offered a quote one of Frazee’s friends testified the defendant said to them: “That’s never going to happen.” #9News

11:26 AM - 18 Nov 2019
 
  • #917
Don't pile on me for saying this, but my heart goes out to the defense team of AS & AP. I'm not sure how it all works but I would imagine they are assigned a case and unlucky for them they got the PF case. What I respect in them, is it appears they accepted the old saying "it is what it is" and they never tried to spin a story. They quietly let the trail/case/evidence/witnesses play itself out. As @gitana1 said a while back, they are used to losing. Kudos to them for their service to our justice system and taking a hit on their own reputation. I'll bet they are more than relieved this whole thing is done with (and I also bet they are expecting a guilty verdict and probably agree with it). They are human after all and would not want a PF running free.
 
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