KH's (alleged) email to co-workers

[shefner]

I find it very odd....who would care if someone in your company spoke with the media? What would they have to say that might be detrimental anyway? Mmm....I wouldn't even be thinking along these lines, especially early on.

 

[Emma Peel]

I find it very odd....who would care if someone in your company spoke with the media? What would they have to say that might be detrimental anyway? Mmm....I wouldn't even be thinking along these lines, especially early on.

LE saying don't talk to media to all witnesses by then.

 

[freefallzzzz]

I find it very odd....who would care if someone in your company spoke with the media? What would they have to say that might be detrimental anyway? Mmm....I wouldn't even be thinking along these lines, especially early on.

I think that due to the nature of Intel's business.. Everyone is used to following strict rules within the company and all the security they have in place in all locations it is part of the working environment.

(You just cannot get/walk into an Intel site)

From Intel's Code of Conduct
http://www.intel.com/assets/PDF/Policy/code-of-conduct.pdf

<snip>
We believe individuals have the right to decide when their personal data is collected, used, or disclosed.


later in paragraph
<snip>
When questions, issues, or concerns arise, consult Intel Legal or a member of the Privacy Team.



I'm more inclined to think he was just in "auto" mode, and approaching things logically. Emma says it better =)

 

[Emma Peel]

I think that due to the nature of Intel's business.. Everyone is used to following strict rules within the company and all the security they have in place in all locations it is part of the working environment.

(You just cannot get/walk into an Intel site)

From Intel's Code of Conduct
http://www.intel.com/assets/PDF/Policy/code-of-conduct.pdf

<snip>
We believe individuals have the right to decide when their personal data is collected, used, or disclosed.


later in paragraph
<snip>
When questions, issues, or concerns arise, consult Intel Legal or a member of the Privacy Team.



I'm more inclined to think he was just in "auto" mode, and approaching things logically. Emma says it better =)

you are awesome freefallzzzz. :blowkiss:
nothing like some actuals factuals to back up my intuition. :highfive:

 

[freefallzzzz]

you are awesome freefallzzzz. :blowkiss:
nothing like some actuals factuals to back up my intuition. :highfive:

I know people that work there (mind you there are quite a few Intel's around here) and people that have worked as contractors on site at Intel for years, so yes, RULES RULES RULES.. =)

 

[debs]

But wait! If it is Intel's assurance and insistence that each employee's personal data is only to be collected, used, or disclosed at the employee's discretion, why would Kaine need to alert all employees in his group to keep quiet?

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

What I find interesting about that email is it does say not to talk to media. But, it doesn't say tell LE anything you think might help. That has always struck me.

 

[tehcloser]

Let's just get the whole "privacy" part of Intels code of conduct in here....and it's talking about personal data (any information that can be used to identify, contact, or locate an individual. Somehow, I don't think this was what Kaine was talking about...........

http://www.intel.com/assets/PDF/Policy/code-of-conduct.pdf

Privacy

Many countries have implemented, or are planning to implement, privacy laws that set requirements for the appropriate handling of personal data ( any information that can be used to identify, contact, or locate an individual)

We are committed to protecting the reasonable privacy expectations of everyone we do business with, including our customers, consumers and employees. We believe individuals have the right to decide where there personal data is collected, used or disclosed. We also believe that responsible stewardship of personal data is a critical component in maintaining trust in the Intel brand and ensuring that individuals feel confident that Intel respects their right to privacy.

Therefore we each have a responsibility to comply with Intel privacy and information security requirements when personal data is collected, stored, processed, transmitted and saved.

When questions, issues, or concerns arise, consult Intel Legal or a member of the Privacy Team.

 

[xin]

I find it very odd....who would care if someone in your company spoke with the media? What would they have to say that might be detrimental anyway? Mmm....I wouldn't even be thinking along these lines, especially early on.

I know, and I agree, it's kinda weird, but it's part of the high tech culture--secret-keeping, non-disclosure agreements, a very specific media strategy having to do with product release, specific people on staff to deal with the media. It's about controlling the market related to product releases and clients. These businesses see the media, and non-company people as outsiders as part of their work. The higher up in a tech business, the more paranoid about public information and the very precise roles of each person in a company. High tech is very paranoid because it's all about money and market position. Been there done that as a PR consultant to many high tech companies.

In Kaine's case it has to do with being part of that culture AND an attempt to protect his reputation. Although really, in my opinion, he's actually sort of chatty.

IMO

 

[kappy50]

Let's just get the whole "privacy" part of Intels code of conduct in here....and it's talking about personal data (any information that can be used to identify, contact, or locate an individual. Somehow, I don't think this was what Kaine was talking about...........

http://www.intel.com/assets/PDF/Policy/code-of-conduct.pdf

Privacy

Many countries have implemented, or are planning to implement, privacy laws that set requirements for the appropriate handling of personal data ( any information that can be used to identify, contact, or locate an individual)

We are committed to protecting the reasonable privacy expectations of everyone we do business with, including our customers, consumers and employees. We believe individuals have the right to decide where there personal data is collected, used or disclosed. We also believe that responsible stewardship of personal data is a critical component in maintaining trust in the Intel brand and ensuring that individuals feel confident that Intel respects their right to privacy.

Therefore we each have a responsibility to comply with Intel privacy and information security requirements when personal data is collected, stored, processed, transmitted and saved.

When questions, issues, or concerns arise, consult Intel Legal or a member of the Privacy Team.

I didn't want to copy and paste, as I was not sure if I was allowed since it is Intel's handbook. But on pg. 13, under "Conflict Of Interest"....Look at the first paragraph...using Intel equipment for non Intel business...not trying to be a *utthead here, if he needed to do this to get the word out about Kyron, then so be it..as long as Intel has no problem with it, then I don't either. But to me the e-mail part is deceiving on this because there's nothing on this email in regards to it belonging to Intel....

 

[WhyaDuck?]

I find it very odd....who would care if someone in your company spoke with the media? What would they have to say that might be detrimental anyway? Mmm....I wouldn't even be thinking along these lines, especially early on.

Just to seek out the various positions on this matter, perhaps he figured it would all be over quickly, with Kyron just wandering off and being found that weekend, and he didn't want his private life prised into (and his co-workers harassed, etc) over a short-time emergency situation.

What I find interesting about that email is it does say not to talk to media. But, it doesn't say tell LE anything you think might help. That has always struck me.

If Kyron just wandered off, in his mind, it is likely he didn't think anything his co-workers had to say would be useful to LE.

On the other hand, I agree that was an omission on his part. Maybe he figured it didn't need to be said and if LE asked they would do what they could.

All supposition, of course.

 

[ami]

I found this email odd...a few questions, which may have been addressed before, if so I apologize (1) Who's Becky? (2) who orginally generated the email? (3) how would this email as it looks here be going out to his Intel Group? (4) was this an actual email or something posted on Acker's website ? (5) He's honcho enough to contact Intel's legal ??? (6) lastly, what I love, he did not politely ask anyone not to talk to the media, he specifically said DO NOT....oh, I just thought I was through...as an employer of over 100 people, if something like this occurred within my work force family here, any email correspndence to my employees would be from me.....jmo....

The email sounds fine to me. I work in a similar environment (science) and this email would be appropriate from a coworker facing a similar hardship. He's essentially saying the rumor (email) someone sent was factually correct, if you'd like to do something to help you can do X and Y but don't do Z, and here's all the information you need to identify him if you see him. He did have an emotional adjective - "amazing" - and so it wasn't completely cold.

My assumption is that Becky is a coworker who heard about missing Kyron and spread the word at Intel to inform, gather support for Kaine and explain his absence. And the request to not contact the media - well, the less that complicates matters the better in the early stages. Better that real leads are funneled through LE, the media gets more verified information after LE has already had time to digest/investigate it and there aren't eleven different stories floating around about Kyron being seen at Intel at some point weeks before that get mangled through media channels and report him found or some other communication snafu.

 

[Pensfan]

JMHO WARNING:
This is not to say Kaine is a bad guy. Everyone has their own personality style. Kaine's is just very visible and untempered due to a relatively low EQ.

The guy just doesn't bother me that much - I know lots of folks like this. Perfectly good folks who never have a clue when a loved one is suffering - until after the fact. At which point, they apply logic and sincerely try to analyze and mathematically solve what is an emotional problem.

((((hugs to all engineer-types, Kaine included))))

JMHO

Respectfully shortened.
PLeeeeeease come over to my home any evening and watch tv with my family. I get really tired of having to interpret what is "really" happening on dramatic shows for the males in my home. Warning: Don't ever try to watch Mad Men with them.

ITA with your assessment on KH.

 

[scotslass]

My dh works in a similar work environment so I asked him what he thought.

his response:

Of course i wouldn't want people talking to the media, they could contact LE or myself if they had anything that would be helpful.. No employer wants to see their employees all over the news network and/or media camped outside the offices. Besides i'm sure he didn't want his personal life being discussed throughout the office and although that was bound to happen better he set it off in the right direction once he saw an e-mail was already being circulated.

So in short he did not see anything odd about the wording then again my dh is one of them engineer types

 

[DairyGirl]

Well maybe it's just me but I think it is just plan weird. Both Kaine and Terri seemed awfully worried about the media too early on for my taste.

You have to remember that DY is LE and he has said that from the very beginning, the first night IIRC, he told them that they would no longer have a private life.

Young recalled meeting at the Horman's home near Skyline Elementary within hours of Kyron's disappearance. He'd already been told by the FBI and Multnomah County sheriff's detectives that he would not be given inside information about the case.

But because of his background as a detective in Medford, he felt compelled to tell the other parents how the investigators would proceed.

"I explained to each person that now our lives are not private any more, that the investigators are going to talk to us, that they're going to want to know very detailed information about our lives, that our job is to give that and assist with the investigation and give them as much as they need," Young recalled.
http://www.nwcn.com/news/Kyron-Horm...doubt-behind-boys-disappearance-98509699.html

They were already warned that this would be in the media and how they might be perceived. I think Kaine was trying to do some damage control in that he didn't want his co workers to be airing dirty laundry or gossip, even though he seemed to be doing that himself later in the investigation. Maybe he felt it ws better coming from him?

 

[shefner]

I know, and I agree, it's kinda weird, but it's part of the high tech culture--secret-keeping, non-disclosure agreements, a very specific media strategy having to do with product release, specific people on staff to deal with the media. It's about controlling the market related to product releases and clients. These businesses see the media, and non-company people as outsiders as part of their work. The higher up in a tech business, the more paranoid about public information and the very precise roles of each person in a company. High tech is very paranoid because it's all about money and market position. Been there done that as a PR consultant to many high tech companies.

In Kaine's case it has to do with being part of that culture AND an attempt to protect his reputation. Although really, in my opinion, he's actually sort of chatty.

IMO

Yes, Kaine is very chatty for someone who is accustomed to so much privacy. Thats why I find it unusual that he has shared so much, so often. He has shared things that I wouldn't want to talk about...such as his marriage, his wedding ring, his plans, etc. I think it odd to automatically tell everyone in your company to stay away from media questions and then hold open press conferences several times a week.

 

[shefner]

The email sounds fine to me. I work in a similar environment (science) and this email would be appropriate from a coworker facing a similar hardship. He's essentially saying the rumor (email) someone sent was factually correct, if you'd like to do something to help you can do X and Y but don't do Z, and here's all the information you need to identify him if you see him. He did have an emotional adjective - "amazing" - and so it wasn't completely cold.

My assumption is that Becky is a coworker who heard about missing Kyron and spread the word at Intel to inform, gather support for Kaine and explain his absence. And the request to not contact the media - well, the less that complicates matters the better in the early stages. Better that real leads are funneled through LE, the media gets more verified information after LE has already had time to digest/investigate it and there aren't eleven different stories floating around about Kyron being seen at Intel at some point weeks before that get mangled through media channels and report him found or some other communication snafu.

BBM

He did not request that they not contact the media...He said not to say anything if contacted by the media. I just wonder why he would automatically think that the media might contact a co-worker, especially in such a security-tight environment? I don't know....it just sounds strange to me.

 

[CarmelEyesD]

I don't find that odd, actually-it ensures that the information reaching the media is controlled, factual and what they want out there-nothing more.

 

[ami]

BBM

He did not request that they not contact the media...He said not to say anything if contacted by the media. I just wonder why he would automatically think that the media might contact a co-worker, especially in such a security-tight environment? I don't know....it just sounds strange to me.

okay, fair enough - not to say anything if contacted. Were it me, I would assume the media would indeed contact my coworkers, my neighbors, my babysitter, my friends, family, pastor and long lost cousins twice removed. They do that. This is probably where they get a lot of their unnamed sources. And not necessarily at work during work hours, either - we could find the names of his coworkers without too much trouble and I'm certain the press could (and has) as well. I wouldn't be surprised if I worked with KH to have a reporter call me at home to ask about his personal life, professional reputation, flirtations at work, money problems, etc.

 

[ami]

Yes, Kaine is very chatty for someone who is accustomed to so much privacy. Thats why I find it unusual that he has shared so much, so often. He has shared things that I wouldn't want to talk about...such as his marriage, his wedding ring, his plans, etc. I think it odd to automatically tell everyone in your company to stay away from media questions and then hold open press conferences several times a week.

Actually that makes sense to me, too. He shares these things to keep the story front and center. He doesn't strike me as someone who craves the limelight as much as he wants his son's picture to remain on the front page and in people's minds. If that means Kaine faces some privacy loss and personal humiliation, so be it.

I remember reading John Walsh's book about the kidnapping and search for his son Adam. He was also willing to let whatever shameful or embarrassing thing LE could dig up just hang out there, regardless, to move the investigation forward and keep Adam's face and info public.

Ugh, actually thinking about that case right now is terrible. I pray that this has a better outcome.