Kristian S Horman was arrested

[Kimster]

Bumpity bump

:highfive: We mean it!

 

[raeann]

If the uncle was listed as having the authority to pick up Kyron from school, then it would not technically be an abduction. This scenario would explain a whole lot of the statements or for that matter non statements of LE.

jmo

 

[gibby207]

Exactly. Great post and thank you for writing it.

I don't like writing it, and without getting into great detail, it's true.

But.... thanks puf!!

 

[Emma Peel]

HOW OLD WAS THE VICTIM???
(pretty please, just tell me)
omg, I CANNOT get this site to open up for me. grrrrrrrrr.
I know JBean posted the docket for a minute there, but I was powdering my nose.

 

[joshiesmom]

I'm sorry for getting off-topic. Won't happen again.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I think he "could" be related to Kyron's case.

We just don't have the facts right now to say yes or no.

I think it's possible.

 

[Wrinkles]

So...

There can be several thoughts...in my mind...

1. Kyron's family may have wanted to keep a low profile because they didn't know if Kristian's case would actually go to jury? (I don't know how that works), and so they didn't want anything to go against him by rumor and innuendo in the news? They may also have not wanted any attention given to the victim, i.e. to protect the victim.

2. Kristian's location upon the day of Kyron's disappearance was definite, well witnessed and known by FBI, he is safe...????

3. Someone gave Kristian an alibi he didn't deserve? (family members protecting family members??)

4. Then again... IF Kyron knew something no one else knew, but would later on tell because he learned of a conviction in the family, this could be a reason for someone to make sure he would never be around as a witness later on when he might talk.

 

[gwenabob]

Actually, he pleaded guilty. "Trial" lasted 30 minutes.

Nope. Not true. Nowhere in the docket does it say he pleaded guilty. It says "Stipulated Trial Court Finds Dfdt Guilty of 3rd Deg Child Molestation."

Judge found him guilty. He did not plead. Otherwise, there would have been no trial. And I would expect a trial on stipulated facts to take only 30 minutes start to finish.

 

[annalyzer]

He was convicted of statutory rape, so no force was involved. Wholly different mindset than a SO who would take a little boy, jmho.

If it was a young teen girl I'm guessing she may have been the babysitter for them.

 

[pufnstuf]

Here is the code law for his charges.

RCW 9A.44.089
Child molestation in the third degree.
(1) A person is guilty of child molestation in the third degree when the person has, or knowingly causes another person under the age of eighteen to have, sexual contact with another who is at least fourteen years old but less than sixteen years old and not married to the perpetrator and the perpetrator is at least forty-eight months older than the victim.

(2) Child molestation in the third degree is a class C felony.



http://search.leg.wa.gov/wslrcw/RCW%20%20%209A%20TITLE/RCW%20%20%209A.%2044%20%20CHAPTER/RCW%20%20%209A.%2044%20.089.htm

Bringing this forward. BBM.

 

[Breathe]

It really, really sucks that Kyron's parents have to deal with this when their son is missing. No wonder they were keeping quiet - to keep the focus on Kyron. As if having a missing child isn't enough, having to deal with the stress of a family member's issues at the same time.

How much is enough? I feel really sorry for them. Their child is missing, their brother has a statutory rape conviction and they had to field calls today telling friends and family that no, Kyron's body has not been found. It sucks all the way around.

 

[Calliope]

He was convicted of statutory rape, so no force was involved. Wholly different mindset than a SO who would take a little boy, jmho.

I'm sorry...

(1) A person is guilty of child molestation in the third degree when the person has, or knowingly causes another person under the age of eighteen to have, sexual contact with another who is at least fourteen years old but less than sixteen years old and not married to the perpetrator and the perpetrator is at least forty-eight months older than the victim.

(2) Child molestation in the third degree is a class C felony.

Nothing there that indicates 'no force' is involved.

 

[Emma Peel]

Bringing this forward. BBM.

lol.
oh thanks pufnstuffy. I got it.

Hmmmm...:waitasec:

 

[pufnstuf]

lol.
oh thanks pufnstuffy. I got it.

Hmmmm...:waitasec:

One day I'll master bringing something forward and quoting the person I'm responding too, too.

But not yet. :waitasec:

 

[No More]

What a bizarre development. My guess is that 80% chance it's just a bizarre coincidence and 20% it's indirectly related (not sure how).

 

[butterfly1978]

All I can say is WoW. IF he is involved it would explain alot. I will hold my tongue til more is known.

 

[Dee10]

If the uncle was listed as having the authority to pick up Kyron from school, then it would not technically be an abduction. This scenario would explain a whole lot of the statements or for that matter non statements of LE.

jmo

I can't see someone putting down an authority to pickup a child, when the person lives a good distance away to pick-up the child from school (at a moments notice with a tummy ache or injury). Doesn't seem practical especially since Mom was a stay-at-home Mom. It could explain an a unique / isolated incidence if that were the case, and if he were on the form (since there doesn't seem to be a signing out) & it counted as "legal" custody so as not to count as an abduction, I would agree. Is that what you meant?

 

[Wrinkles]

Hello SoCalSleuth,

Nice to see you this eve... Thanks for hopping in...

You wrote:
>>If Kyron was supposed to be a witness in this case (although doubtful because of the stipulated facts), they would have postponed the trial when he went missing.<<

But but but... What if Kyron was not to be a witness. What if Kyron knew something that he had never spoken before to anyone (but the perp knew)... What if "someday" when Kyron learned about someone in the family being jailed for something THEN he spoke up and said, "Oh, so that is why I haven't seen Uncle X for a long time, you never told me. Do you know what he did to me when I was little?" We DO NOT know that ANYONE ever violated Kyron prior to his disappearance, and if someone did that is not necessarily known.

The point would be...quieting a witness before they could ever say, "Guess what they did to me" someday.

This is all MERELY conjecture, of course.

 

[human]

It is possible that the uncle had something happen to him that did not happen to the other children in the family.

Perhaps a "special" relationship with a neighbor or a coach or who knows what, that did not happen to other children in the family.

Or it could have happened to the other children as well. Who knows.

I am talking about the uncle, his brother ( the father of the missing child) and any other children in the family, if there are any.

 

[pufnstuf]

I see what you see Puf. I have been through this personally and it bother's me no end.

Jaxson--I passed over your post.

I am very sorry for what you've been through. It's horrific to think about, and I can't imagine having to go through it.

(((hug)))