Kronk Discloses More Information About Finding Caylee's Remains

[Hot Dogs]

The cop was the one afraid of the snake

Kronk made a call to the 911 dispatcher and said that "we" saw a dead 4-foot diamondback rattlesnake and that he isn't going to do a close inspection because of it. That was before LE showed up and met him a few days later.

IIRC, the bit about cops being scared out because of snakes came from the media. Hopefully Kronk will tell the whole story in a way that makes sense.

 

[Chilly Willy]

I understand that going on a talk show and getting some money does not sit well with people. We all want to know the story though. Why does doing this or similar discredit someone. That is I know what the lawyers will say but he did find her he didn't kill her. Just like when KioMarie sold her story to the NE they say that discredits her. Why? KC and her really did spend time in the woods when younger.

None of these people are the person who commited the crime but have been sucked in. I know that there are many who have not gone on to talk. Most of the people who were spending the most time with her at the end. TL, AH ect. JG has talked but not for money just out of love for Caylee.

The lawyers will suggest that the witnesses exaggerated, twisted, or even created their stories with the motivation of making money off the case. There have been cases in which important witnesses could not testify because they'd sold their stories to the media.

We don't know that JG didn't get paid for any of his interviews, he did have photos that could have been licensed. If so, it will affect his credibility on the stand.

 

[Indianagirl]

Kronk made a call to the 911 dispatcher and said that "we" saw a dead 4-foot diamondback rattlesnake and that he isn't going to do a close inspection because of it. That was before LE showed up and met him a few days later.

IIRC, the bit about cops being scared out because of snakes came from the media. Hopefully Kronk will tell the whole story in a way that makes sense.

I stand corrected

 

[Indianagirl]

JVM is discussing the case right now

 

[tx_Dot]

I understand that going on a talk show and getting some money does not sit well with people. We all want to know the story though. Why does doing this or similar discredit someone. That is I know what the lawyers will say but he did find her he didn't kill her. Just like when KioMarie sold her story to the NE they say that discredits her. Why? KC and her really did spend time in the woods when younger.

None of these people are the person who commited the crime but have been sucked in. I know that there are many who have not gone on to talk. Most of the people who were spending the most time with her at the end. TL, AH ect. JG has talked but not for money just out of love for Caylee.

JG talking bothers me the most....

1. He's one of the friends that has known her awhile.

2. He last said "the kc in jail is not the KC I knew"......we all know the "KC he knew" lied to him, stole his money, got mad over the DNA testing, cheated on him......etc (I don't see much difference in her, then & now). He sounded more like a defense witness.

3. Even during his interview, media calls him, & his parents......both times his reply is "he's been instructed by LE not to talk to the media".

4. Wonder if either G has collected "licensing fee's" for their photo's ???
I heard where many photo's are now marked "property of".

 

[tx_Dot]

The lawyers will suggest that the witnesses exaggerated, twisted, or even created their stories with the motivation of making money off the case. There have been cases in which important witnesses could not testify because they'd sold their stories to the media.

We don't know that JG didn't get paid for any of his interviews, he did have photos that could have been licensed. If so, it will affect his credibility on the stand.

quit reading my mind

 

[Chilly Willy]

quit reading my mind

LOL. You might as well as me to put down a good book. I can't do it.

 

[mollie]

Who ever the PI was talking to on the phone in that video is in deep S***!
That person was either the murderer or had gotten inside information from the murderer as to where Caylee was...pretty obvious.

This may be where LA comes in to play, as one of the letters sent from KC through JB...

I'm also betting the person on the other end of the line might have been using a disposable cell phone. I'm putting nothing past anyone at this point.

Between this, and if by any wild, long shot chance CA gets immunity, my worst nightmare is she, once on the stand then admits to killing Caylee herself: creating "doubt" for KC, and then not being able to tried herself.

Again, I put nothing past this family and JB. The goal is only to save KC.

 

[Indianagirl]

Question...Can the judge not put a gag order on the witnesses?

 

[tx_Dot]

LOL. You might as well as me to put down a good book. I can't do it.

Me either, & stayng up all night long is the pits....(age 10 Under covers w/flashlight too ??)

We could save space if you would mark about half your posts "tx dot thinks this too".

I just hate seeing another 'key' prosecution witness' *collecting fee's".

 

[fla*mom]

The lawyers will suggest that the witnesses exaggerated, twisted, or even created their stories with the motivation of making money off the case. There have been cases in which important witnesses could not testify because they'd sold their stories to the media.

We don't know that JG didn't get paid for any of his interviews, he did have photos that could have been licensed. If so, it will affect his credibility on the stand.

You are right we don't know if JG sold any right to any pics. For some reason I don't think it has come up in connection with him. He very may well have.

 

[Chilly Willy]

This may be where LA comes in to play, as one of the letters sent from KC through JB...

I'm also betting the person on the other end of the line might have been using a disposable cell phone. I'm putting nothing past anyone at this point.

Between this, and if by any wild, long shot chance CA gets immunity, my worst nightmare is she, once on the stand then admits to killing Caylee herself: creating "doubt" for KC, and then not being able to tried herself.

Again, I put nothing past this family and JB. The goal is only to save KC.

If there was some crazy conspiracy going on between all these different people to find and do something (?) with the body - to the point that they would purchase disposable phones to cover their involvement - why would they take photographs and video-tape themselves?

Cindy can confess to the murder all she wants, with our without immunity. That's doesn't mean LE is going to believe her, especially when all the evidence points to Casey.

 

[radio]

You are right we don't know if JG sold any right to any pics. For some reason I don't think it has come up in connection with him. He very may well have.

We don't know about JG or others. WE don't know what Caylee's body is contained in. We know what Nancy Grace and the repeaters tell us.

 

[itsreenw]

If RK was on the normal monthly route for the Hopespring area, he would've been there just a few days before the PI's were making that video tape. He said he didn't revisit the site in Nov. but how do we know that he didn't?

He said the reason he didn't go back to the woods in Nov was that LE showed no interest in his info in August. Well...they didn't show any interest between November and December either so why did he go back on Dec 11th?? Kudos to him for bringing Caylee out of the terrible resting place her mother chose for her, but without those involved being 100% truthful about their role in all this, she will never rest in peace.

I tend to theorize that he did go back to the woods in November and decided to bypass LE and went directly to the A's camp with the info. He could've stopped by the woods to snap a pic before making his rounds on Hopesprings and SHOWED it to the A's when he was at their house to read the meter.

A few days after RK read meters in that area, DC goes to the very spot that RK has been trying to report to investigate. Coincidence? I think not. But even while getting verbal directions on the phone, DC is just feet away from the remains but still can't find the suspicious bag. As we've read, DC was heard on the tape saying "it should be right here".

Another month goes by. Dec 11, while on his MR route, RK, the one person that was so insistent that Caylee was there, goes to that very spot and finds her because nobody else could follow his directions.

I think his intentions were pure at first but his actions seem questionable and nobody in this case can be taken at face value. He probably has skeletons as most of us do, and wanted to remain anonymous at first but he's been bitten by the money/media bug now.

 

[debirlfan]

I think his intentions were pure at first but his actions seem questionable and nobody in this case can be taken at face value. He probably has skeletons as most of us do, and wanted to remain anonymous at first but he's been bitten by the money/media bug now.

I think you might be pretty close on this. Perhaps the first time around back in August, he either knew or was fairly certain that he saw the body. He wanted to call it in and get LE to go find her without getting involved. He tried 3 times, and never got anywhere. Then, the area flooded. I suspect he may have driven through the area a few times to see if the water went down - or he may have known the area well enough to assume it would take awhile to receed. At any rate, when he was in the area on Nov 10, he saw it was going down, and thought it was low enough.

Still reluctant to get involved, he contacted the PI and tried to tell him where to find Caylee. (Has it been determined if the 'bounty hunter' rumors are true? If they are, then he'd be used to working with PIs.) PI couldn't find her either. Finally, MR sucks it up and goes and finds her himself.

Why was he so determined not to find Caylee himself? Think about his history. He tried being the 'good guy' once before and got accused of kidnapping. I can't say I blame him for not wanting any part of it.

 

[itsreenw]

Originally posted by debirlfan...
Why was he so determined not to find Caylee himself? Think about his history. He tried being the 'good guy' once before and got accused of kidnapping. I can't say I blame him for not wanting any part of it.

I believe he is minimizing the actual circumstances of the kidnapping. He said his ex moved out of state to be with another man, then she called him to come help her move back. When the police came, if what he says is true, the ex would only have to say she wanted him to come get her. The new guy couldn't file kidnapping charges for another willing adult.

Whatever the case was, it was serious enough to go before a grand jury.

About his BH experience...

http://www.wtvynews4.com/news/headlines/37420784.html#
According to the information he provided the county, he owned a bail bonds company and worked as a bounty hunter in Kingsport, Tennessee for almost 11 years, ending in 2004.

So he was in the US Coast Guard in Key West in 1992 when he was arrested, then he must've moved to TN, then back to FL. He started his new job on 5/27/08.

 

[debirlfan]

I believe he is minimizing the actual circumstances of the kidnapping. He said his ex moved out of state to be with another man, then she called him to come help her move back. When the police came, if what he says is true, the ex would only have to say she wanted him to come get her. The new guy couldn't file kidnapping charges for another willing adult.

Whatever the case was, it was serious enough to go before a grand jury.

Could have been any number of possible scenarios. Example - new boyfriend was abusive and calls RK to help her. He gets there and gets her out of there, then she changes her mind and goes back to new boyfriend - and goes along with the abducted story so he doesn't get mad and possibly abuse her again.

Given that the court tossed the whole thing rather than just a not guilty verdict, I'll assume they tossed it for a reason - perhaps eventually the gf told the whole story?

 

[cuppy199]

The lawyers will suggest that the witnesses exaggerated, twisted, or even created their stories with the motivation of making money off the case. There have been cases in which important witnesses could not testify because they'd sold their stories to the media.

We don't know that JG didn't get paid for any of his interviews, he did have photos that could have been licensed. If so, it will affect his credibility on the stand.

Well then the defense better not call Dr Lee or the others on the defense team that been on different shows :crazy:

 

[bessie]

His suspicions must not have been very nagging. Couldn't he go over there on his days off work? I know I know... the water. But still, DC wasn't sloshing in any water on Nov 15. Were there really no times in Sept/Oct when the area wasn't flooded?

Maybe Kronk will tell us that the nagging feeling brought him back numerous times, but it was always flooded.

If he'd found anything and reported it on his day off, he would've been snooping and raised questions about why he was there. Because the discovery was made during the course of his workday, he had a legitimate reason to be there.

At this point, I believe his story and am just answering your question. I'm really hoping that he turns out to be one of the good guys.

 

[Hot Dogs]

If he'd found anything and reported it on his day off, he would've been snooping and raised questions about why he was there. Because the discovery was made during the course of his workday, he had a legitimate reason to be there.

Well, since when is a concerned citizen searching for Caylee on their free time something strange or suspicious? The oddity is that he didn't go back on his free time. It would be perfectly plausible for him to see things that raised suspicion during work time, then return to actually find the remains on his own time.

Instead we get this weird protracted story that has all the urgency of cold molasses. Toss in a dead rattlesnake and the need to pee.