GUILTY KS - Alicia DeBolt, 14, Great Bend, 21 August 2010 - #3

[anyoldtime48]

http://hutchnews.com/Publicsafety/Longoria-charged-with-murder--2

According to the complaint, Longoria, who has a lengthy criminal history, was also known as "Giero" or "Roy Gilbert Alvarez."


I hadn't picked up on this previously, but according to this article, he mailed his personal belongings before he stole the SUV:

Before stealing the vehicle, Six says Longoria went to post office and mailed many of his belongings to an address in Texas. “I believe that the defendant is in a desperate state of mind, and therefore, there’s a risk to the community if he’s released," said Six to the court.

http://www.kwch.com/news/kwch-news-cd-longoria-court,0,6783697.story

Would love to know the source the Hutch has for the alias? He shows no record in Nueces County under that name, although there is an older guy (49) by that name in their system. Similarly bad dude who also has an attempted murder to his credit. Birthdate all wrong however to be AJL.

Maybe somebody he buddied up to in prison and borrowed his name at some point while he was out??

Interesting.

 

[hollyblue]

Would love to know the source the Hutch has for the alias? He shows no record in Nueces County under that name, although there is an older guy (49) by that name in their system. Similarly bad dude who also has an attempted murder to his credit. Birthdate all wrong however to be AJL.

Maybe somebody he buddied up to in prison and borrowed his name at some point while he was out??

Interesting.

It says according to the complaint, so KBI must have found it somewhere. I'd sure like to see the complaint in PDF if a reporter would so dare....or a local taking a trip to the records department.

 

[anyoldtime48]

Hi, is there anywhere that AL's DOB and Birth City/State is documented? I am willing to go back through the past threads and I see that by 'anyoldtime's ' post said that he was born in WY. TIA

Yes. Nueces County court records.

Sheridan Wyoming, 11/21/73

You can find AL listed with a WY town along with relatives at Intelius.com

I have not been able to find links to any of those relatives in either IL or NC. He might have been married more than once -- media hasn't mentioned much about his past -- so maybe has ax and heaven forbid kids in another state. Or brothers, or sisters, or 2nd cousins. Last name is pretty common in all those states, but have found no evidence AJL himself has lived outside of WY, TX and KS. Which isn't to say he hasn't, but media hasn't explained very well his connections to other states. Maybe was in a K-12 school in NC at one time?? Had some reason to go after them with bomb threat.

you can set up a free account to access Nueces County court records here:

http://www.co.nueces.tx.us/districtclerk/

then click on "criminal case search" in bar on the left. You have to give them your name, email and a phone number. A password is then emailed to you. Only criminal cases are available online. AJL has enough of those to keep you busy for awhile.

 

[anyoldtime48]

It says according to the complaint, so KBI must have found it somewhere. I'd sure like to see the complaint in PDF if a reporter would so dare....or a local taking a trip to the records department.

Ditto that vote. Where have all our locals gone? Public record unless a judge ordered search warrants etc sealed. Sometimes take a few weeks however before those documents get recorded in the county clerk's office and are available to get copies of, so all of this might not yet be available.

Any decent investigative media source in the area should be all over that unless LE has nicely requested they don't share.

 

[westsidefox64]

Ditto that vote. Where have all our locals gone? Public record unless a judge ordered search warrants etc sealed. Sometimes take a few weeks however before those documents get recorded in the county clerk's office and are available to get copies of, so all of this might not yet be available.

Any decent investigative media source in the area should be all over that unless LE has nicely requested they don't share.

Im not really a local ...less than 2 hrs away dont mind making a trip or 2 a week if I have enough to go after!

 

[hollyblue]

Well, I think AL looks evil. If I were to see him in the street and he had done nothing, I would still think he looked mean/evil. Just take a look at the mugshot shown in the article linked in anyoldtime's post.

Just my opinion................

This is what really bothers me. We see photos and of course his reactions and facial expressions in a controlled surrounding. For the life of me I don't want to think very long on what that poor child may have experienced and the look she saw on his face when doing it. How absolutely terrified she must have been. Justice would be terrifying him everyday for the rest of his life....pure Hello. Maybe that white tiger at the GB zoo needs a cellmate? JMO

 

[anyoldtime48]

Would love to know the source the Hutch has for the alias? He shows no record in Nueces County under that name, although there is an older guy (49) by that name in their system. Similarly bad dude who also has an attempted murder to his credit. Birthdate all wrong however to be AJL.

Maybe somebody he buddied up to in prison and borrowed his name at some point while he was out??

Interesting.

Missed time limit to add this to my previous post on this.

I missed the PDF on the first pass thru the story.

http://hutchnews.com/www/longoria.pdf

So I guess I'm wondering where the AG found the "a.k.a. Giero, Roy Gilbert Alvarez" as in what states and counties, and does AJL also have criminal history there?

 

[hollyblue]

Im not really a local ...less than 2 hrs away dont mind making a trip or 2 a week if I have enough to go after!

The complaint had to be available for the reporter to see, but
I'd call ahead of time to make sure they are not sealed. IMO, I don't think they would be, but in some cases, because it involved a minor, they will, but that's mainly if the child/children are still living. Keep us up to date!

 

[hollyblue]

Missed time limit to add this to my previous post on this.

I missed the PDF on the first pass thru the story.

http://hutchnews.com/www/longoria.pdf

So I guess I'm wondering where the AG found the "a.k.a. Giero, Roy Gilbert Alvarez" as in what states and counties, and does AJL also have criminal history there?

Thanks! I missed it too along with this quote: ?? update? The paper's date is today's, with the article being dated yesterday???
I was thinking he may have flipped and just acted upon his Neandethal instincts, but this puts a whole new spin and twist to this murder. Now the why and I'm sure they (LE) know. I'm sure that tiger would be much happier on an island too. NO club, I'm willing to buy the 2 goats. One for him and one for the tiger... to sustain him till his next meal!!!:furious:

The "intentional and premeditated" killing of DeBolt "was done in commission of, or subsequent to, the crime of criminal sodomy or an attempt thereof" against DeBolt, the capital murder charge alleges.

 

[anyoldtime48]

Thanks! I missed it too along with this quote: ?? update? The paper's date is today's, with the article being dated yesterday???
I was thinking he may have flipped and just acted upon his Neandethal instincts, but this puts a whole new spin and twist to this murder. Now the why and I'm sure they (LE) know. I'm sure that tiger would be much happier on an island too. NO club, I'm willing to buy the 2 goats. One for him and one for the tiger... to sustain him till his next meal!!!:furious:

The "intentional and premeditated" killing of DeBolt "was done in commission of, or subsequent to, the crime of criminal sodomy or an attempt thereof" against DeBolt, the capital murder charge alleges.

ETA: They had to of updated that article because his "alias" is not there now.

Shoot, I thought the "premeditated" was old news. Intentional -- well the sodomy was no accident, coupled with probably a ton more evidence if AG got these charges filed so quickly -- I don't see any way AJL's attorneys could fight that this was accidental death. And then covered up by trying to burn the body? Murder 1 with death penalty on the table also allows them (unfortunately) to deal this down. Only rationale I could figure for that is to save the family more pain sitting thru a trial. I'm not sure they could feel worse than they do now. Speaking only for myself, I'd want to be there and hope to see the SOB squirm. I believe he's an evil and total narcissist with no capacity whatsoever for empathy or much for any REAL human emotion.

Might however still be able to "get" plain old fear. In his case, I doubt he'd feel it until he's being wheeled to the execution chamber.

Unless they put him in with the general prison population. Now he's not only a snitch, but a baby killer. If he ever slept, it would be with one eye open, wondering when the end would come.

Far more justice than being specially/safely housed on the taxpayers' dollar for years and years while the lawyers play the appeal system.

 

[hollyblue]

Maybe it is old news, but premeditated could be within a few seconds too....so I think they got it right. First time I've seen mentioned. Maybe they will plea down to LWP, if he comes clean with all the info they are wanting, and save the family more grief. I'm tired of paying for like kinds like AL. Island. Wish I had the moola to buy it and put it into effect....with an occasional hurricane to self clean the island every year or two. Blow wind blow. JMO

ETA: Here's definition of capitol murder per the link TexasLil provided. Section 4.

http://kansasstatutes.lesterama.org/Chapter_21/Article_34/21-3439.html

 

[wasnt_me]

WICHITA, Kansas -- Prosecutors have subpoenaed the interview KSN did with Adam Longoria, the suspect in the Alicia DeBolt case.

Days before Longoria was named as a person of interest in the murder DeBolt he sat down with KSN's Kevin Wheeler.

For about 20 minutes Longoria laid out his version of the events on the night DeBolt was killed.

"Alicia's ex-boyfriend gave me her number, which I didn't know it was, and told me to text her and tell her we were having a party and to mention who all was going to be there," Longoria said during the interview.

http://www.ksn.com/news/local/story...ed-in-DeBolt-case/4JndUFcUH0GBFgw5ijm0bw.cspx

Where IS this FULL interview??????

 

[hollyblue]

Where IS this FULL interview??????

See last parargraph in article, it was edited. Sure would like to see the whole 20 minutes.

http://www.ksn.com/news/local/story...ed-in-DeBolt-case/4JndUFcUH0GBFgw5ijm0bw.cspx

 

[wasnt_me]

Missed time limit to add this to my previous post on this.

I missed the PDF on the first pass thru the story.

http://hutchnews.com/www/longoria.pdf

So I guess I'm wondering where the AG found the "a.k.a. Giero, Roy Gilbert Alvarez" as in what states and counties, and does AJL also have criminal history there?

I added this PDF to the file I've been compiling on the case at the google docs link in my signature. Thanks for supplying the PDF!

Holly--

Yes, I want the whole 20 minutes. I want it! I want it! I want it! :banghead:

 

[cathdawg]

I am going to play the Devil's advocate sort of, does anyone think as I do that Alicia possibly had a sexual relationship going on with AL? It is common knowledge that she had a relationship with a 19yr old, and I am sorry BUT I think sex was part of it. I am not here to Judge as I have Children , old now, but I can see this happening . JMO

 

[cathdawg]

Good Night All.

 

[wasnt_me]

I am going to play the Devil's advocate sort of, does anyone think as I do that Alicia possibly had a sexual relationship going on with AL? It is common knowledge that she had a relationship with a 19yr old, and I am sorry BUT I think sex was part of it. I am not here to Judge as I have Children , old now, but I can see this happening . JMO

I've found that it's a hard thing to talk about the victim's actions. I butted heads with another sleuther who disagreed with me about a victim before.

To answer your question, if we supposed that she had a sexual relationship with him, then that certainly changes the motive for the murder. Instead of him killing her after molesting her, we might then have to think that perhaps she threatened to expose the relationship if she didn't get what she wanted from him--whatever that could be in the world of speculation. So he sodomized her out of anger and killed her to keep her quiet. I don't know...

Whether she had sex with him willingly (or at least what she thought was willingly) at any point, we have to admit SOMETHING was going on between them for her to have his number, for her to think that she could text him for "rides" and for her to willingly lie to her mother that she was going somewhere with the 19 year-old when she was really going somewhere with AL.

I have to assume she was lying about the 19 year old, because he had not come up at all in this case. There's no reason to hide his identity because he's over 18. If she'd actually had correspondence with the 19 year old that night, I'm certain the police would have added him to the suspect list--especially after the things Longoria said in that KSN interview and in that KWCH interview.

What i'd like to know is how often since the girlfriend's birthday party did Alicia go out late at night and say she was with someone else and a black SUV picked her up. I'd like to know if her behavior changed at home after the night of that birthday party. Some of her friends or this 19 year old or somebody has got to know whether she had a relationship with this man.

Also, I made the assumption that TC didn't know about the texts until the monday after the disappearance. I gleaned that the mother learned that the party had been at AL house. she went over there to confront him, and THAT is how she learned that Alicia was texting AL. I assumed from that KWCH interview that the mother did not know all along that AD was texting this man. I figured that it was the girlfriend who knew all along, because in the interview, AL said that the mother said "I didn't have to worry about her texting me anymore." And for some reason, I seriously, seriously doubt that TC had EVER had a conversation with AL before that Monday.

What are y'all's thoughts on that?

 

[Kat]

I am going to play the Devil's advocate sort of, does anyone think as I do that Alicia possibly had a sexual relationship going on with AL? It is common knowledge that she had a relationship with a 19yr old, and I am sorry BUT I think sex was part of it. I am not here to Judge as I have Children , old now, but I can see this happening . JMO

She may have. We have no way of knowing at this point in time.

It's not a judgment or slur against her. She was only 14 and too young legally to consent to a relationship with this man.

He was old enough to know the law (that's not a viable excuse when a man is caught either)

If there was any sort of relationship at all, then IMHO Alicia is completely innocent of any wrongdoing as well.

He may have groomed her over a period of time. It doesn't jibe that he didn't know her, or had just met her.

I think he was "working her" over, in order to pursue a relationship with her, and whether or not that relationship (I hate to call it that it's not a relationship in the classic definition) had progressed beyond him trying to groom her I don't know.

At any rate, even if she did, she doesn't bear any responsibility for what happened to her, even if she had not been murdered, she still could have very well been a victim of this man who wanted to have a sexual act with an underage child.

I don't take offense to your suggestion cathdawg. It might have been so, or might not have been so. JMHO.

 

[hollyblue]

I don't think it would matter if she did. AL knew she was 14 and underage. My personal opinion, I don't think she was. I think he might have groomed her big time, money, gifts, etc to lure her in and why she kept calling him for "favors". To me, what happened on that Saturday night was "demanded reciprocation" of all the grooming he had done. imo

What I can't figure out, didn't the parents know what kind of car the 19 year old normally drove, if he picked her up on a regular basis, and since they saw the blk suv that night, did it not ring a bell it was a different vehicle? Maybe the 19 yo did not normally pick her up, but she walked to a local hang out place (the park) to meet up with friends and him. ?? I know we did this in HS where I use to live. We had the local hang outs and the normal crusin' route that was a small radius around the town.

One thing I did find interesting, is Ernie's Bar and Grill. It was Slack's Bar and Grill at one time. The girl who gave him a ride was Tanya Slack. Could be only a coincidence and may not be related to her at all, but I found it interesting.

http://www.likeme.net/places/slacks-bar-grill-great-bend

http://www.kwch.com/news/kwch-news-cd-debolt-suspect-found,0,325722.story

JMO

 

[ksnurse]

Hollyblue - I apologize for not getting back to you regarding the map. I intended to ask my parents about the Venture plant, but due to a very unexpected & sudden death of a close friend (he was 30yo) I've not been online much. I'm just now getting caught back up on reading thru everything from the past week.

I have no idea what to think about this case anymore. I'm glad AL was finally officially charged, but I really have to wonder if he committed the crime alone? I'm just glad he is locked up and can't hurt anyone else. I couldn't believe my eyes during the latest court hearing with his attitude of annoyance with the Judge & AG.