GUILTY KS - Alicia DeBolt, 14, Great Bend, 21 August 2010 - #3

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Adam Longoria has been transferred to Segwick County Jail in Wichita.

https://ssc.sedgwickcounty.org/sheriffinmates/SheriffInmateSearch.aspx



So it looks like he was transferred to this Jail Sept 10 th. No Bond!


10J022887 9/10/2010 999 HOLD FOR BARTON COUNTY ACTIVE CHARGE HOLD $0.00 NO BOND

Wanted to show the info on cameras being in the courtroom.

http://www.kscourts.org/rules/Rule-Info.asp?r1=Media+Coverage+of+Judicial+Proceedings&r2=318

Is anyone else experiencing probs with their computer on this site? It takes forever to refresh just to bring up the quote button!!!!!!!!!! Geez.

THANKS FOR INFO CD!
 
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There was a message at top of all pages a week or so ago about a new server going in shortly, so hopefully it will help speed things up a little. On intermittent overload from heavy activity.
 
  • #244
The journal entry on Aug. 30th states he is married!!! Is this just misinformation from the gf scenario or is he still married to a previous in TX? This needs some clarification for court docs! Don't even want to think the gf would have. Oh my.
 
  • #245
Lots of motions! STATE OF KANSAS VERSUS ADAM JOSEPH LONGORIA

http://www.kscourts.org/State-v-longoria/default.asp

Wow! Just Wow! As stated previously, I'm not familiar with court proceedings and this is just a vessel of infomation for me and very interesting.

One of the sargents in LE at the jail told Wicks (AL's attorney) that the conversation between AL and his office had been recorded and listened to. It also states that Wicks was informed the defendent did not wish to meet with him after the hearing that day, but Wick's office had sent msg to him saying AL had called and requested his presence. This was in the motion to dismiss attorney/client privledge. #15, on page 2.

Help! Does anyone know how to cc data from pdf to bring it here, and could you p l e a s e advise???? Thanks.
 
  • #246
Here's what I gleaned:

1. Cameras will be allowed. 1 Video and 1 stationery.

2. Defense wants AL to be able to wear street attire, not his prison onesies. :) Wonder if he'll be needing the pr of jeans he mailed? Doubt the cowboy hats will come into play, don't you? If he comes to court in a suit and tie, I'm going to faint from laughter. Seems he would feel most comfortable in state provided clothing as he's spent most of his life in them. ?

3. Defense asking for no restraints in the courtroom. How absurd since this guy has escaped before! State agrees to no shackles or handcuffs, but wants either stun belt or extra officers in the courtroom, because THEY ARE SEEKING THE DEATH PENALTY.

4. Defense wants the witnesses to be separated. ie: they can't talk to each other about the case and compare notes. GF can't call Dawn, Mom or vice versa. I would take that to mean certain members of the press also. State has not filed a response.

5. The problem I see now and down the road is going to be evidence. The statements in the Defense's motion were a little over the top, and some, as the State pointed out...moot at this point. But, I do see a possible problem later on down the road in arguments re: evidence that may be consumed..all used up because of the small amount of it. This could delay the proceedings for a very long time. Have seen it in other cases and then you get the expert witnesses, the defenses own forensics in there and it goes on forever.

JMO
 
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Just a note of caution. If you have a long post to make or you just don't want to go back and repeat it again because it was "lost in the sauce" while attempting to reply, copy your reply before hitting that submit button!!!

It just took more than 10 minutes for my above reply to post. Just sayin...
 
  • #248
In jail the inmate can call his attorney privately, we shackle them to the wall and step out only watching them on monitor, all other calls go through the inmate pay phone system. But they do have a right to legal calls on the desk phone. The legal mail was opened by us at the jail level as well as at prison level, I worked both. However we could at no time read it, it was opened in the presence of the inmate, and we checked it for staples and paper clips then put it back in envelope and gave it to them. During a shakedown we could not read legal mail, however a big inmate game is to take a file folder or giant manilla envelope and label it as legal. I would go in, just flip through in search of contraband and then place back in the envelope. (Most all shakes are done in the presence of the inmates). Legal is a real pain in the backside....its a loophole and a fine line, but they will manipulate that rule and use it obviously, look what happened here.

Must be different regulations in different states, IMO. I have worked with parish, DOC, and Federal Inmates, and we have never opened the legal mail. It is recorded (in the Golden Eagle Inmate System), then placed in a ledger book where it is given to the inmate and is signed off on by the inmate. The inmate then opens his legal mail in the presence of the officer and shakes it out so that the officer can see that there is no contraband in it.

As for the phone calls to a lawyer; I agree that the shift commander can let the inmate call from an office with a window if there is time and does not disrupt the jail/correctional center routine.

I should have prefaced my comments with 'this is how it is done in Louisiana'!
 
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The journal entry on Aug. 30th states he is married!!! Is this just misinformation from the gf scenario or is he still married to a previous in TX? This needs some clarification for court docs! Don't even want to think the gf would have. Oh my.


I saw that too. From everything ive been able to find he is divorced.
 
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The journal entry on Aug. 30th states he is married!!! Is this just misinformation from the gf scenario or is he still married to a previous in TX? This needs some clarification for court docs! Don't even want to think the gf would have. Oh my.

Huh? What "journal entry" where please, and are you referring to AJL being married?

TIA
 
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http://www.kscourts.org/State-v-longoria/default.asp
3rd motion from the top: Response to Motion to dismiss Violation of Attorney Client Privelege... IMO It looks like thyey have a case. It states it was stated this was a call to an attorneys office. If they kept listening and recording after being told this isnt that a breach of his rights???
 
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http://www.kscourts.org/State-v-longoria/default.asp
3rd motion from the top: Response to Motion to dismiss Violation of Attorney Client Privelege... IMO It looks like thyey have a case. It states it was stated this was a call to an attorneys office. If they kept listening and recording after being told this isnt that a breach of his rights???

I don't think it will amount to anything. I think it was just a call from AL to his attorney's office, and not even a conversation w/him. As in, "Tell Wick's I want to meet with him."

My understanding is it has be something that "shocks the courts" as in the State deliberately having intentions in seeking/obtaining the strategic moves of the Defense in defending his client. imo
 
  • #256
I don't think it will amount to anything. I think it was just a call from AL to his attorney's office, and not even a conversation w/him. As in, "Tell Wick's I want to meet with him."

My understanding is it has be something that "shocks the courts" as in the State deliberately having intentions in seeking/obtaining the strategic moves of the Defense in defending his client. imo


I agree, all it really means to me is that the DP could be thrown out so.... it would mean 'life' without parole so...., what the Heck, it takes ions for these DP convicts to be executed and he would be a 'Lifer' :waitasec: I am not worried as yet!
 
  • #257
I've found that it's a hard thing to talk about the victim's actions. I butted heads with another sleuther who disagreed with me about a victim before.

To answer your question, if we supposed that she had a sexual relationship with him, then that certainly changes the motive for the murder. Instead of him killing her after molesting her, we might then have to think that perhaps she threatened to expose the relationship if she didn't get what she wanted from him--whatever that could be in the world of speculation. So he sodomized her out of anger and killed her to keep her quiet. I don't know...

Whether she had sex with him willingly (or at least what she thought was willingly) at any point, we have to admit SOMETHING was going on between them for her to have his number, for her to think that she could text him for "rides" and for her to willingly lie to her mother that she was going somewhere with the 19 year-old when she was really going somewhere with AL.

I have to assume she was lying about the 19 year old, because he had not come up at all in this case. There's no reason to hide his identity because he's over 18. If she'd actually had correspondence with the 19 year old that night, I'm certain the police would have added him to the suspect list--especially after the things Longoria said in that KSN interview and in that KWCH interview.

What i'd like to know is how often since the girlfriend's birthday party did Alicia go out late at night and say she was with someone else and a black SUV picked her up. I'd like to know if her behavior changed at home after the night of that birthday party. Some of her friends or this 19 year old or somebody has got to know whether she had a relationship with this man.

Also, I made the assumption that TC didn't know about the texts until the monday after the disappearance. I gleaned that the mother learned that the party had been at AL house. she went over there to confront him, and THAT is how she learned that Alicia was texting AL. I assumed from that KWCH interview that the mother did not know all along that AD was texting this man. I figured that it was the girlfriend who knew all along, because in the interview, AL said that the mother said "I didn't have to worry about her texting me anymore." And for some reason, I seriously, seriously doubt that TC had EVER had a conversation with AL before that Monday.

What are y'all's thoughts on that?

First of all it is illegal to have a sexual relationship with a 14 year old in Kansas, and so she could not "consent" to a sexual relationship, so she would have been being molested, in other words, a victim of a crime.

Second, when he says he was told to text her that night and invite her to a party at his house, but didn't know "it" and tell her who all was going to be there, he was setting her up, ie, premeditation. imo.

Whether he has done this before, it appears to me that he enjoys manipulation, not just the kill, and that imo he has done this before.
He knows who the vulnerable ones are.

Personally I think he was grooming her.

For some reason he doesn't think the AG was allowed to bring up his past criminal history, so he was angry that he wasn't "playing fair" and that his rights were being violated, apparently again. If looks could kill, eh?
He was intentionally attempting to intimidate the AG, but it was clear that he was the one who felt intimated.

Imo, that was what the interview was about too, manipulation.

She hadn't even started high school yet.
What a horrible crime.
RIP baby girl.
 
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I agree, all it really means to me is that the DP could be thrown out so.... it would mean 'life' without parole so...., what the Heck, it takes ions for these DP convicts to be executed and he would be a 'Lifer' :waitasec: I am not worried as yet!

Because the response motion by the State after the request of the courts by the Defense to remove the death penalty, or dismiss the case was met with Six's mentioning they are (still) seeking the death penalty, I don't think they will take it off the table. This was just a weak motion, imo, for the defense to show they are doing "something" in trying to defend him. I think AL left so much evidence, I can't imagine Six having any problems if everyone keeps their nose clean. JMO

Here's a separate PDF of the statement re: death penalty. #2.
http://www.kscourts.org/State-v-longoria/Response/Response-Motion005.pdf

If someone finds a way to change this pdf into something else where we can CC info from it, or some other way...pls let me know.
 
  • #259
I was trying to go back and find out whether Alicia did attended the 'Party' at Camp Alrich sp? as I saw a post from her sister D on FB while Alicia was missing stating ''please anyone with information come forward , " Alicia last seen with two Hispanic Men at a Party at Camp Alrich", does anyone recall this? TIA I am trying to find it. Perhaps this was initial misinformation.

It seems to me that AL must have been the one who picked her up that Eve, he must have text her and said he was having a 'Party'. This certainly looks like Premeditation to me. If this is the case, he brought her to his House as she was seen a neighbor ...the GF will hold the key to this as most likely she was also there. Willy J's staff said he was not there that Eve. GF said he returned around 12:30 - 1 am ? all 'sooty'. It makes me sick just to think that he had it all figured out, pure Evil.
 
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http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-10004622-5.html?tag=page
Look closely at her neck. I think this LITTLE GIRL was living a life of wanting to be alot older than she was. I also think if she wasnt worried what her mom thought enough to take this self photo she wasnt afraid to tell mom someone else was picking her up. A little girl trying to be a grown up way too soon. AJL showing her intrest probley boosted her ego making her feel more grown up than she was. No wonder he got her to go with him in such a short amount of time. Sick SOB made her feel grown up ...HE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS DOING IMO. She was just too young wanting to be too grown poor baby!
 
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