Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #12 *Arrest*

[Jewels53]

Why would EG admit to LE about smoking the weed, much less the quantity she did?

Why tell on yourself for doing something illegal when she wasn’t caught?

I think she thought she was deflecting to a lesser crime than what she had done to Lucas? She probably just panicked and tried to tell some truths. Maybe she thought they would figure that out with the OG tapes and the smell of MJ in the house/garage. I really don't know, as I am not EG. jmo

 

[ScarlettLin]

Why would EG admit to LE about smoking the weed, much less the quantity she did?

Why tell on yourself for doing something illegal when she wasn’t caught?

I think she was caught. They arrested her and confronted her with *something* to do with that time period - maybe video from OG showing just her and the baby, maybe video showing her driving erratically. Maybe residue or paraphernalia in the garage... and given that Wichita has reduced penalties for marijuana in some cases (it’s like a traffic ticket, pay a fine basically in certain circumstances) maybe she thought she wouldn’t be in much trouble for it so she gave that info up. At first she’s ‘sure ok yeah I did this one itty bitty thing’ and now it’s ‘OH HOLY WOW WHAT DO YOU MEAN ITS NOT LITTLE’
Does that make sense?


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[perfectingpink]

Why would EG admit to LE about smoking the weed, much less the quantity she did?

Why tell on yourself for doing something illegal when she wasn’t caught?

I think it is because she believes if you show LE how honest and trustworthy you are about illegal things you do, they will think you are to honest and trustworthy to lie about anything else.

 

[DakotaMayi]

Why would EG admit to LE about smoking the weed, much less the quantity she did?

Why tell on yourself for doing something illegal when she wasn’t caught?

I'll just be repeating what has already been said. Because it makes her look honest and as if LE can trust her, but also, someone else here (I cant remember who - sorry!) Mentioned Sherin Matthews, why did they admit to leaving her and telling the fake story about putting her by the tree. Because those things were just not as bad as the things they actually did to her.

 

[AFTM]

I'll just be repeating what has already been said. Because it makes her look honest and as if LE can trust her, but also, someone else here (I cant remember who - sorry!) Mentioned Sherin Matthews, why did they admit to leaving her and telling the fake story about putting her by the tree. Because those things were just not as bad as the things they actually did to her.

Because the marijuana stays in your system for 3 days and they would of seen it anyway in her bloodwork or urine test...

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[RoyalsGal8]

Why would EG admit to LE about smoking the weed, much less the quantity she did?

Why tell on yourself for doing something illegal when she wasn’t caught?

Someone correct me if I’m wrong..

She gave her phone to law enforcement to search. She had been messaging JH about smoking and going to Olive Garden.

She really didn’t have a choice, did she?


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[chihuahua]

When EG surrendered her phone to LE she knew they were going to find the messages she had with JH. About smoking and being hungry and going to OG.
So that's why they know about it.
:moo: Affidavit:
http://www.kwch.com/content/news/Af...e-Lucas-Hernandez-went-missing-476690153.html
"The court document says Glass consented to a search of her phone where police found texts on Facebook Messenger between her and JH (Glass' husband, Jonathan Hernandez).Police say the messages stated Glass was going to smoke a couple of bowls of marijuana and go to Olive Garden using a gift card JH sent her."

 

[WillenFan21]

I can't get Lucas off my brain and I hate to repeat myself but I wanted to bring my theory back into focus for those who may not have seen it last night and are behind. The more I think about him the more my gut tells me that my theory below is correct. Emily did not care for Lucas. There are pictures that show him battered and bruised from the abuse he suffered at the hands of her. What makes you think she's going to be concerned if the little boy gets sick? She didn't give one :censored about him and instead of taking him to a doctor like any human being would do she let the little boy die.

It makes sense to me that the closer to death he got the more nervous she became which would explain her smoking bowls of pot before going to the OG. She wanted to calm her nerves. It makes sense that they would have a time frame of when he was last seen by someone(if it was a landlord who was scouting the outside of the house then based on pictures they could have easily looked in from the outside and seen Lucas in bed) if whoever stopped by saw him and just thought he was sleeping but didn't catch onto the fact that he was ill. It also makes sense from the VI's stressing so much on the dark evening hours of Friday into early morning hours Saturday that in that time-frame is when Lucas passed away and was disposed of. Another thing that fits with this is her story of him napping and about the pull ups. If Lucas deteriorated to the point he couldn't leave bed then there is no way he could have gone potty on his own and it would make sense that this woman would put him in a pull up to avoid a mess because lets be real she wouldn't care about cleaning up after him. As far as him napping goes I think its a half truth. If my theory is correct then I'd say he probably fell into a deep sleep near death hence her saying he was napping. I don't know guys I think between the VIs stressing that Lucas was very sick and them stressing to focus on that time frame that my theory could almost be spot on. The dots connect to it and VI the Paddleboarder never disputed my theory either.

Where are you Lucas?

PS: Here is where the VI PB said about him being sick:

From a sleuthing standpoint, I would focus on late Friday afternoon into the early morning hours of Saturday. Lucas would have been transported when it was dark outside.

Lucas had been sick for close to two weeks before he “went missing.” He had a stomach bug the first week and had been very sick. I would imagine his already fragile 45 pound body would have been in a much more compromised state.

Okay so I have another theory about what could have happened to him and I am sorry in advance bc this is hard to type out. It slipped my mind about him being sick for two weeks. I can't believe I forgot about that. I apologize in advance if this hard to read.

Paddleboarder speficailly made it a note a few threads ago to point out that Lucas been extremely ill for the two weeks before he went missing. Infact she stressed on this big time. I wonder if by Friday afternoon he was so sick that he wasn't physically able to leave his bed .EG knew that he was nearing his death so she smoked bowls of weed to calm her nerves, got the munchies from it, and just left him there in bed when she and the 1 year old went to Olive Garden. If it was indeed the landlord who stopped by that evening then they'd have searched the whole house for that cat. The landlord or whoever stopped by sees him in his bed (or where ever he was at), assumed that he was just sleeping, and then left. Then later in the dark evening hours-morning hours of Saturday Lucas passes away and EG immediately disposed of the body. This could explain why Lucas was in a pull up also. He would have not been able to go on the bathroom on his own so she was putting pull ups on him. IDK


ETA: Grabbed this from another thread to go along with my theory above. This is where Paddleboarder stressed about him being really sick.

 

[chihuahua]

Because the marijuana stays in your system for 3 days and they would of seen it anyway in her bloodwork or urine test...

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I've gotta run in a few, but I think mj stays in your system for 28 days or longer. Depending on the strength of the weed and the amount a person uses and how often they use.
http://www.honestmj.com/how-is-thc-stored-in-the-body/
"THC-COOH happens to be a metabolite that takes a very long time to get out your system. The main reason is that it is a “Fat Soluble” compound. So, what does that mean?

THC is Stored in the bodies fat cells
​

Or, more accurately, THC-COOH is stored in fat cells. After it is metabolized, it re-enters the blood stream and is absorbed into lipids, a.k.a, fat. The body loves to store fat and keep it as an emergency energy source." :moo:

 

[Bright_Eyes]

Is this the focus for him being transported?
Or for whatever happened to him, or both?




I strongly believe this is where the 6pm-6pm time frame comes from. I'm not sure if he was alive when the landlord saw him, but I believe the landlord did see him that afternoon. The VI's haven't stated if they believe he was alive at that point.

However, for our sleuthing purposes he would have been transported in the dark so like 8pm-5am sometime, give or take an hour or so.

(Snipped)

Sunset on the 16th was at 6:09 pm and sunrise on the 17th was at 7:16 am. A New Moon started February 15th so it would have been very very dark.

https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/wichita?month=2&year=2018

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[Grapey]

Why would EG admit to LE about smoking the weed, much less the quantity she did?

Why tell on yourself for doing something illegal when she wasn't caught?

Unsure about the case here obviously, but it's common for people to overstate how much they smoke when they're found with a large quantity, to make LE think it's for personal use when it isn't (dealing).

 

[GigTu]

Also odd imo that the calls from OG were at 4:53 and 5:43 IIRC.
She's highly obsessed with numbers.
Oops see this was just posted.
Link to EG facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/DayByDayEAG?__tn__=R
:moo:

I doubt the call times were planned to coincide with some numbers obsession.

<jmo> Pure speculation, but I'll go farther to say I bet they were probably calls to someone she needed to score more MJ from. That person was probably also taken in for possession and in the process questioned about Lucas. While they might not have any info on Lucas, I have a hunch that she may have mentioned going to "a park" to them, thus spurring all these park searches. </jmo and a possible theory, not based on any facts>

 

[Zelda1010]

FindLucasAllen (or Paddleboarder):

Has Emily changed her story, or at least the details of the "nap story?!"

FLA's very first post on Websleuths mentioned Lucas NOT being asleep when Emily took her nap. 2nd post mentioned no longer being at their house, so I took that to mean the original "not asleep" story came directly from Emily?

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...Wichita-17-Feb-2018-1&p=13936742#post13936742


https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...Lucas-Hernandez-5-Wichita-17-Feb-2018-1/page5



In Emily's interview from jail, the story seems to change to Lucas WAS asleep.





http://www.kwch.com/video/?vid=475560153&vid=475560153

If she's changed the details of her (already thought by many to be bogus) nap story, that is even more telling, IMO

I am not PB or FLA but I see the slight changes too. Keep talking EG, I don't think you are as smart as you think you are.

I was reminded not to put too much stock in the info the dispatcher is relaying to LE in the radio chatter in the first 30 seconds of Nancy Grace. https://player.fm/series/crime-stor...erate-search-for-wichita-5-year-old-boy-lucas (I never did listen to the rest of this, just linking for dispatch audio)

But it did stick out to me that the dispatcher seems to say "think he was supposed to be sitting in his room then she took a shower and when she checked on him he was no longer there"

It sure seems like a changing story. Not only no nap, but "sitting". Again, it isn't official EG statement, but hmm. I'm hoping LE has been hot on the trail from the beginning and it is only the silence from LE that is leaving us to worry and the perpetrator(s) feel smart and smug and ultimately make mistakes.

I just hope they get the physical evidence they need. I wish they already had the physical evidence.

 

[AFTM]

I've gotta run in a few, but I think mj stays in your system for 28 days or longer. Depending on the strength of the weed and the amount a person uses and how often they use.
http://www.honestmj.com/how-is-thc-stored-in-the-body/
"THC-COOH happens to be a metabolite that takes a very long time to get out your system. The main reason is that it is a “Fat Soluble” compound. So, what does that mean?

THC is Stored in the bodies fat cells
​

Or, more accurately, THC-COOH is stored in fat cells. After it is metabolized, it re-enters the blood stream and is absorbed into lipids, a.k.a, fat. The body loves to store fat and keep it as an emergency energy source." :moo:

Yes it does but police do a blood test for recent use...it is in blood stream and that is what they are looking for not past use at the time of arrest... I have a family who is homicide State Police in PA. My daughter in laws brother.


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[maureen718]

I can't get Lucas off my brain and I hate to repeat myself but I wanted to bring my theory back into focus for those who may not have seen it last night and are behind. The more I think about him the more my gut tells me that my theory below is correct. Emily did not care for Lucas. There are pictures that show him battered and bruised from the abuse he suffered at the hands of her. What makes you think she's going to be concerned if the little boy gets sick? She didn't give one :censored about him and instead of taking him to a doctor like any human being would do she let the little boy die.

It makes sense to me that the closer to death he got the more nervous she became which would explain her smoking bowls of pot before going to the OG. She wanted to calm her nerves.

Where are you Lucas?

PS: Here is where the VI PB said about him being sick:

From a sleuthing standpoint, I would focus on late Friday afternoon into the early morning hours of Saturday. Lucas would have been transported when it was dark outside.

Lucas had been sick for close to two weeks before he &#8220;went missing.&#8221; He had a stomach bug the first week and had been very sick. I would imagine his already fragile 45 pound body would have been in a much more compromised state.

RSBM for space
I don&#8217;t believe LH died from sickness because if he did I think EG would have called 911. It has been on the news and Facebook that there have been deaths from the flu, especially during the timeframe we are discussing here. I think the fact that Lucas had been sick gives us insight into the compromised state he may have been in when whatever happened to him occurred. As for EG smoking a few bowls after &#8216;cleaning&#8217; and before going to OG is nothing more then her routine, meaning she regularly smokes bowl during the day and doesn&#8217;t smoke to calm down, I don&#8217;t think smoking would affect her at all if she was stressed out after a traumatic event but is more likely just the go to after she is finished doing any activity at all in her daily routine or an extreme situation.

 

[ScarlettLin]

Yes it does but police do a blood test for recent use...it is in blood stream.


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Yes but 1) it was 5 Days later she was arrested and 2) don’t they have to have a warrant to draw blood? They had to confront her with something first, and have compelling evidence to get a judge to sign the warrant


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[chihuahua]

Wasn't the initial Detective on the scene Shomaker (sp?) the homicide detective?
:thinking::moo:

 

[Zelda1010]

Wasn't the initial Detective on the scene Shomaker (sp?) the homicide detective?
:thinking::moo:

I don't know if it was in relation to this case or even if it is true. But someone on here said missing persons cases generally/usually/possibly can have a homicide detective assigned. As in, there isn't necessarily a missing persons detective?

 

[Zelda1010]

Yes it does but police do a blood test for recent use...it is in blood stream and that is what they are looking for not past use at the time of arrest... I have a family who is homicide State Police in PA. My daughter in laws brother.


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This is interesting, but I can't find anything to back it up.

Although I saw something about saliva testing that was interesting.

I really don't think a blood test is given instead of say a breathalyzer to determine current innebriation from MJ. And since the THC is stored in the fat, your blood will test positive long after your last use.

I'm really very confused by this.

eta...not that a breathalyzer is ever used for MJ, I'm just trying to think how they would test on the spot to see if a person were high on pot at the time of a crime. By the time blood or urine is analyzed an amount of time has passed and neither urine nor blood seem to be a reliable indicator of when a person last used. But if I'm missing it, I'd love to be corrected!

 

[Jo in Calif]

I'm not real sure if anything was pre meditated.
We were told that they moved in on the 7th, I'm going to assume that JH was off at that time to help with the move. They could have possibly signed the lease on the 6th paid move in monies, less deposit monies and were given 10 days to pay. Now either the landlord was there to check and make sure there was no cat there or they were there to pick up the rest of the monies owed. LH could have possibly been on the couch in the living room, isn't there a big window right by the front door? They could have spotted him, alive, but no one answered the door. She was at OG with the baby.
Either she was pissed at him for something or he wasn't feeling well and she left him home while she drove, under the influence, with the baby to OG.
I think once she got home she lost it with him and that's when what ever happened, happened.
Not sure about cell pings, after she got home from OG, was she smart enough to leave her phone home while she was disposing of him?
Also would like to know her phone usage between the hours of 3:00 pm and 6:00 pm on the 17th while she was supposedly showering and napping.