Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #15 *Arrest*

[tourtellottebev]

What is a vi?


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Sorry this is the first case , I have really followed this close , not sure why it pulledat
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[Jewels53]

Sorry this is the first case , I have really followed this close , not sure why it pulledat
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VI is a verified insider usually a family member or someone who knows the victim very well. Paddleboader is also a vi as she is assisting the family.

 

[FindLucasAllen]

For real? Even after le ruled that out? Hard core.

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I'll elaborate a bit..

Emily and co. (family and supporters) are trying their very best to place all blame on Jamie. They've gone as far as saying that Jamie abducted Lucas and killed him. A few have said they truly believe Jamie has him hidden somewhere.

Jamie has proof of where she was on the 16th and 17th as well as the weeks leading up to his disappearance. LE was able to clear her very quickly.

Emily claims that Jamie even had Lucas on Valentine's Day. This is 100% a lie. Jamie provided LE with proof of where she was on Valentine's Day. {There are other details related to Valentine's Day that I desperately want to share}

If I thought for one second that Jamie was involved I would throw her under the bus in a heartbeat. My loyalty lies with Lucas before anyone else in this situation.

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[Kuyluc2764]

ETA: well, maybe not. It looks like KAKE updated their story and its not showing. Back to searching, ugh

It showed for me.

 

[Sadiebhoff]

I'll elaborate a bit..

Emily and co. (family and supporters) are trying their very best to place all blame on Jamie. They've gone as far as saying that Jamie abducted Lucas and killed him. A few have said they truly believe Jamie has him hidden somewhere.

Jamie has proof of where she was on the 16th and 17th as well as the weeks leading up to his disappearance. LE was able to clear her very quickly.

Emily claims that Jamie even had Lucas on Valentine's Day. This is 100% a lie. Jamie provided LE with proof of where she was on Valentine's Day. {There are other details related to Valentine's Day that I desperately want to share}

If I thought for one second that Jamie was involved I would throw her under the bus in a heartbeat. My loyalty lies with Lucas before anyone else in this situation.

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Thank you FLA!

 

[Jewels53]

I'll elaborate a bit..

Emily and co. (family and supporters) are trying their very best to place all blame on Jamie. They've gone as far as saying that Jamie abducted Lucas and killed him. A few have said they truly believe Jamie has him hidden somewhere.

Jamie has proof of where she was on the 16th and 17th as well as the weeks leading up to his disappearance. LE was able to clear her very quickly.

Emily claims that Jamie even had Lucas on Valentine's Day. This is 100% a lie. Jamie provided LE with proof of where she was on Valentine's Day. {There are other details related to Valentine's Day that I desperately want to share}

If I thought for one second that Jamie was involved I would throw her under the bus in a heartbeat. My loyalty lies with Lucas before anyone else in this situation.

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I am so sorry people are blaming Jamie, she should not have to be going through all of that. People can be so cruel and I just don't understand them.

I was involved in another case and the groupies were awful and they really didn't care who they hurt in the process it was really attention grabbing for themselves. imo

I am praying Jamie can be strong through all of this along with other family members. We will get Lucas back! Stay strong!

#TeamLucas

 

[hsprinkel]

I'll elaborate a bit..

Emily and co. (family and supporters) are trying their very best to place all blame on Jamie. They've gone as far as saying that Jamie abducted Lucas and killed him. A few have said they truly believe Jamie has him hidden somewhere.

Jamie has proof of where she was on the 16th and 17th as well as the weeks leading up to his disappearance. LE was able to clear her very quickly.

Emily claims that Jamie even had Lucas on Valentine's Day. This is 100% a lie. Jamie provided LE with proof of where she was on Valentine's Day. {There are other details related to Valentine's Day that I desperately want to share}

If I thought for one second that Jamie was involved I would throw her under the bus in a heartbeat. My loyalty lies with Lucas before anyone else in this situation.

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I never believed jo was invovled. Just can not believe she is that steadfast in her lie. I know there are the haters/trolls. I only see them as such. I believe eg hit too hard, went too far. Lucas and fam paid the price. Jh is delusional in grief.

Moo

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[Kuyluc2764]

In regards to the cellphone pings near Chisholm park, I had read that WPD's reasoning for searching the park was based off of new information that they had received. A tip?
http://www.ksn.com/news/local/wichi...olm-creek-park-for-lucas-hernandez/1011622130

The only place that I heard about the other phone ping was on FB. Rumor.

 

[sassyantique]

I'll elaborate a bit..

Emily and co. (family and supporters) are trying their very best to place all blame on Jamie. They've gone as far as saying that Jamie abducted Lucas and killed him. A few have said they truly believe Jamie has him hidden somewhere.

Jamie has proof of where she was on the 16th and 17th as well as the weeks leading up to his disappearance. LE was able to clear her very quickly.

Emily claims that Jamie even had Lucas on Valentine's Day. This is 100% a lie. Jamie provided LE with proof of where she was on Valentine's Day. {There are other details related to Valentine's Day that I desperately want to share}

If I thought for one second that Jamie was involved I would throw her under the bus in a heartbeat. My loyalty lies with Lucas before anyone else in this situation.

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I wish you could share also This has made me very emotional. I thought that JH was still under the no contact order still . I would think that le would be stoping the groupie support while in jail. I am so sorry for your heart break .

 

[Kuyluc2764]

I wish you could share also This has made me very emotional. I thought that JH was still under the no contact order still . I would think that le would be stoping the groupie support while in jail. I am so sorry for your heart break .

From experience, it is hard to keep two people apart under a no contact order that WANT to be together. I don't think that there is much that can be done about the two of them talking on the phone.

 

[hsprinkel]

From experience, it is hard to keep two people apart under a no contact order that WANT to be together. I don't think that there is much that can be done about the two of them talking on the phone.

To be a fly in that wall....

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[chihuahua]

Well I'm pretty sure that LE gets to hear every word they all say to each other except for when she is in the presence of her attorney.
:moo:

 

[hsprinkel]

Well I'm pretty sure that LE gets to hear every word they all say to each other except for when she is in the presence of her attorney.
:moo:

Small miracles

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[chihuahua]

Yep and small miracles add up to big ones. Praying for one for Lucas:heartbeat::heartbeat::heartbeat:

ETA I'm watching Marcia Clark on A&E about CA case and hope to get any new thoughts on how these cases go even though I followed that one from the very start.
Maybe with continued asking she will cover this case.

 

[tnith]

We know that EG smokes pot and gets violent.
What else do we know about her? Does she have friends? Did she arrange play dates for the kids? Does she have any hobbies? Was there anything healthy about her mentally? What else do we know about her? This might help us to understand her thought processes.

She wasn't outgoing or regular about playdates, as far as I could find re: her children's social lives. It was facilitated by others who initiated from in-their-real-life surroundings. Perhaps not 'every time' but where is the whiff of parents who maintain they could rely on her there? Still looking for that. Other things keep coming up.

She always has to be right. Will cut off her nose to spite her face.

 

[chihuahua]

She wasn't outgoing or regular about playdates, as far as I could find re: her children's social lives. It was facilitated by others who initiated from in-their-real-life surroundings. Perhaps not 'every time' but where is the whiff of parents who maintain they could rely on her there? Still looking for that. Other things keep coming up.

She always has to be right. Will cut off her nose to spite her face.

Sadly :ditto:

 

[chihuahua]

Hoping to hear back from Marcia Clark of A&E. She accepted my request...seeing what she can do to pass this along and get help for more national attention for Lucas.
:crossfingers:

 

[GigTu]

It is sad how many young kids die during sexual abuse. Their bodies just can’t handle it, their insides rupture and they bleed internally to death. Abused babies seem to die either of being shaken to death or injuries due to sexual abuse. It’s unfathomable for that to happen. This mom called 911 when she found that her daughter was in trouble, but so many don’t.

For so many reasons, I literally almost just threw up after reading this. I'm not sure how much more reality I can take with comparisons to these cases of abuse. I'm hanging on by a thread. :anguish:

 

[GigTu]

I'll elaborate a bit..

Emily and co. (family and supporters) are trying their very best to place all blame on Jamie. They've gone as far as saying that Jamie abducted Lucas and killed him. A few have said they truly believe Jamie has him hidden somewhere.

Jamie has proof of where she was on the 16th and 17th as well as the weeks leading up to his disappearance. LE was able to clear her very quickly.

Emily claims that Jamie even had Lucas on Valentine's Day. This is 100% a lie. Jamie provided LE with proof of where she was on Valentine's Day. {There are other details related to Valentine's Day that I desperately want to share}

If I thought for one second that Jamie was involved I would throw her under the bus in a heartbeat. My loyalty lies with Lucas before anyone else in this situation.

The number one tactic a narcissist enacts to take the focus off themselves for their own wrongdoing is to throw shade for the same exact behavior onto someone else. And to avoid feeling guilt the denial runs deep, so deep the narcissist actually believe their own lies. The shame and fear of being seen for who they really are is greater than any other possible emotion, and in desperation will so almost anything to not get exposed.

On the other side, once exposed, anyone who continues to be gaslighted by their lies and manipulations does so voluntarily, and therefore cannot be angry or embarrassed when they realize they've been duped. Sometimes you really do need to trust the advice of others.

Jamie needs to shine it on, somehow. I don't know why she would care eithe, about what a bunch of noodle heads think anyway. She need to focus on keeping Lucas' name out there so she can get closure. *hugs* to Jamie. So sad.

 

[chihuahua]

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It seems he is supporting her and ready to welcome her back home.
I thought at first he wanted just to get info from her, but sadly I now suspect he is believing her.
I hope and pray I am wrong about that.
:moo: