Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #10 *Arrest*

[StrangeOne]

My concern is that the trash bins have already been dumped. Depending on schedule could it have been before the landfill was alerted to keep an eye?


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That's a good question. Was the landfill searched or being searched?

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[Beth11311]

I want to bring this forward again. I just finally got around to rewatching the actual video (WTF is up with her hair) and reviewing GigTu's article which is: Former CIA Officers Share 6 Ways to Tell If Someone's Lying

1. Behavioral pause or delay
2. Verbal/non-verbal disconnect
3. Hiding the mouth or eyes
4. Throat-clearing or swallowing
5. Hand-to-face activity

When I watch her, I get the feeling of someone trying out for a part, rehearsing a script to guage the audience engagement and reaction.

So many times she says "you know?". All the fake crying off camera with at least two dramatic eye wipes for effect. I give the interviewer some credit for letting EG fake cry for uncomfortably long at first. EG employs the dry eye wiping with gusto. I feel it is a little strange how the interviewer does choose to interject more often during the story of the suspicious man & woman, but maybe they had discussed a thing or two before they began? I dunno, it feels like the reporter breaks EGs story telling flow there, but who am I to nit pick. I think EG is energized by the interjection though.

So...what strikes me most is that she hides her face and eyes for most of the interview. So, the times when we actually do see her eyes might be significant. These are probably times when she most needs her lie to be believed?

I am also struck by the way she scratches her neck and gives us a pause and some eye contact while telling us there were "times where him and my older boys, they would rough around the house and they even got rug burn". Is this the lie JH bought when Lucas complained of being dragged across the floor?

The reporter asks about that Sat...Anything else you wanna tell us?

"Just the fact that I took a shower and he took a nap like we always do (eyes up) (deep breath) (itchy right ear) I put him down for a movie (still itchy ear) yadda yadda yadda pull-up (itchy ear) and ... I did check on him before my shower, ma'am I gotta go."

Hmph. SMH.

I read the article and just watched the video again and goodness....she is sickening, isn’t she. The crying is so clearly fake...she goes from her voice breaking to completely fine in a matter of seconds, and her eyes never become watery/red. Long long pauses. A lot of messing with her hair, etc. She makes me nauseous.

She says “you know” three times within a few seconds while telling the story about the black man and white woman.

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[PhoneJockey]

Not necessarily. You can't really judge that based on this statement. I say that because I'm the youngest of 6 brothers and while I had my moments of being a typical little boy (playing in the dirt, exploring the woods, trucks, playing Army, etc) I was also a very shy child, I was never into rough and tumble play neither with my brothers or friends, I also had a hard time injecting myself into play with other boys because of my shyness. Add to this that he probably didn't really have time to bond with his older brothers since it appears they weren't a regular fixture in his life, which would make injecting himself into play time with them even more difficult.

Another dimension to this is the fact that Lucas probably had, at best, a somewhat strained relationship with his biological mother and since his father was gone for weeks at a time I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't dealing with some separation anxiety and since EG was his primary caregiver he would have stuck to her, afraid to leave her side out of fear she might go away also. I had this problem myself as a little guy. One of my brothers that I was very close too died, after Pete passed I became even closer to my father who then died a year after Peter. As you can imagine, my little world was shaken to it's very core and as a result I became very close with my mother to the degree that I had a hard time leaving the house for a few years, afraid if I left that something would happen to mom or that she might leave me also.

:hug:

I'm sorry you had to experience all of that.

 

[PommyMommy]

National Center for Missing & Exploited Children just messaged me back and said that they would post the updated land owner flyer for our sweet boy. We are looking for you Lucas and won’t stop! ❤️


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Way to go, that's so awesome!

 

[GigTu]

Not necessarily. You can't really judge that based on this statement. I say that because I'm the youngest of 6 brothers and while I had my moments of being a typical little boy (playing in the dirt, exploring the woods, trucks, playing Army, etc) I was also a very shy child, I was never into rough and tumble play neither with my brothers or friends, I also had a hard time injecting myself into play with other boys because of my shyness. Add to this that he probably didn't really have time to bond with his older brothers since it appears they weren't a regular fixture in his life, which would make injecting himself into play time with them even more difficult.

Another dimension to this is the fact that Lucas probably had, at best, a somewhat strained relationship with his biological mother and since his father was gone for weeks at a time I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't dealing with some separation anxiety and since EG was his primary caregiver he would have stuck to her, afraid to leave her side out of fear she might go away also. I had this problem myself as a little guy. One of my brothers that I was very close too died, after Pete passed I became even closer to my father who then died a year after Peter. As you can imagine, my little world was shaken to it's very core and as a result I became very close with my mother to the degree that I had a hard time leaving the house for a few years, afraid if I left that something would happen to mom or that she might leave me also.

:grouphug:

 

[PetDetective]

So, I think I found the case that caused her license to be suspended. Notice the “Attempted Conspiracy Solicitation” section that also appears here and is answered with a “not applicable”.

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[FindLucasAllen]

So, I think I found the case that caused her license to be suspended. Notice the “Attempted Conspiracy Solicitation” section that also appears here and is answered with a “not applicable”.

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Is Hwy 177 & Bluestem Gate by El Dorado Lake?

 

[ScarlettLin]

Is Hwy 177 & Bluestem Gate by El Dorado Lake?

Yes


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[PetDetective]

Not necessarily. You can't really judge that based on this statement. I say that because I'm the youngest of 6 brothers and while I had my moments of being a typical little boy (playing in the dirt, exploring the woods, trucks, playing Army, etc) I was also a very shy child, I was never into rough and tumble play neither with my brothers or friends, I also had a hard time injecting myself into play with other boys because of my shyness. Add to this that he probably didn't really have time to bond with his older brothers since it appears they weren't a regular fixture in his life, which would make injecting himself into play time with them even more difficult.

Another dimension to this is the fact that Lucas probably had, at best, a somewhat strained relationship with his biological mother and since his father was gone for weeks at a time I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't dealing with some separation anxiety and since EG was his primary caregiver he would have stuck to her, afraid to leave her side out of fear she might go away also. I had this problem myself as a little guy. One of my brothers that I was very close too died, after Pete passed I became even closer to my father who then died a year after Peter. As you can imagine, my little world was shaken to it's very core and as a result I became very close with my mother to the degree that I had a hard time leaving the house for a few years, afraid if I left that something would happen to mom or that she might leave me also.

::big hugs::
I’m so sorry you experienced that, but give yourself a pat on the back for overcoming it❤️


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[perfectingpink]

Is Hwy 177 & Bluestem Gate by El Dorado Lake?

It looks like it to me.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/E...99f774711fcede!8m2!3d37.8615081!4d-96.7574289

 

[FindLucasAllen]

It looks like it to me.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/E...99f774711fcede!8m2!3d37.8615081!4d-96.7574289

Thanks pink and Scarlett.

That answers whether she’s familiar with the lake area then.

 

[Pamela_Brewer]

She was born in May of 1991.
In June of 2006, she was 15.
Surely that had dropped off by now!
Moo

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[ScarlettLin]

Thanks pink and Scarlett.

That answers whether she’s familiar with the lake area then.

the ticket was issued by the parks and wildlife rangers at the park it looks like.
12 years ago, she would have been 14/15 depending on when her bday is


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[Pamela_Brewer]

It looks like it to me.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/E...99f774711fcede!8m2!3d37.8615081!4d-96.7574289

I feel ill now after looking at that map!
GOOD FIND!!!
Moo

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[ScarlettLin]

I feel ill now after looking at that map!
GOOD FIND!!!
Moo

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It’s huge. I’ve gotten lost there more times than I care to count.


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[FindLucasAllen]

the ticket was issued by the parks and wildlife rangers at the park it looks like.
12 years ago, she would have been 14/15 depending on when her bday is


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This just piqued my interest a little. A family member and I have been focusing our searches on the lake area (mostly because it&#8217;s close to where we live) and we kept wondering if it was pointless because we didn&#8217;t know if she was even very familiar with the area. <modsnip>

 

[kkdj]

Not necessarily. You can't really judge that based on this statement. I say that because I'm the youngest of 6 brothers and while I had my moments of being a typical little boy (playing in the dirt, exploring the woods, trucks, playing Army, etc) I was also a very shy child, I was never into rough and tumble play neither with my brothers or friends, I also had a hard time injecting myself into play with other boys because of my shyness. Add to this that he probably didn't really have time to bond with his older brothers since it appears they weren't a regular fixture in his life, which would make injecting himself into play time with them even more difficult.

Another dimension to this is the fact that Lucas probably had, at best, a somewhat strained relationship with his biological mother and since his father was gone for weeks at a time I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't dealing with some separation anxiety and since EG was his primary caregiver he would have stuck to her, afraid to leave her side out of fear she might go away also. I had this problem myself as a little guy. One of my brothers that I was very close too died, after Pete passed I became even closer to my father who then died a year after Peter. As you can imagine, my little world was shaken to it's very core and as a result I became very close with my mother to the degree that I had a hard time leaving the house for a few years, afraid if I left that something would happen to mom or that she might leave me also.

:hug: You just broke my heart!

 

[Busylady]

she also has driving without headlights 2600 S Seneca Jan 28, 2007. Original charge was drivers license restriction.

I will try and do the snip tool thing in a bit keeps timing out everytime I try. But these charges are are 11 and 12 yrs ago - she would of been 14 at the time.

 

[Pamela_Brewer]

http://ksoutdoors.com/State-Parks/Locations/El-Dorado/Areas/Bluestem-Point

Please tell me that there is no way he could have been put in an RV dump station!!!
Moo

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[FindLucasAllen]

Not necessarily. You can't really judge that based on this statement. I say that because I'm the youngest of 6 brothers and while I had my moments of being a typical little boy (playing in the dirt, exploring the woods, trucks, playing Army, etc) I was also a very shy child, I was never into rough and tumble play neither with my brothers or friends, I also had a hard time injecting myself into play with other boys because of my shyness. Add to this that he probably didn't really have time to bond with his older brothers since it appears they weren't a regular fixture in his life, which would make injecting himself into play time with them even more difficult.

Another dimension to this is the fact that Lucas probably had, at best, a somewhat strained relationship with his biological mother and since his father was gone for weeks at a time I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't dealing with some separation anxiety and since EG was his primary caregiver he would have stuck to her, afraid to leave her side out of fear she might go away also. I had this problem myself as a little guy. One of my brothers that I was very close too died, after Pete passed I became even closer to my father who then died a year after Peter. As you can imagine, my little world was shaken to it's very core and as a result I became very close with my mother to the degree that I had a hard time leaving the house for a few years, afraid if I left that something would happen to mom or that she might leave me also.

:grouphug:

I’m so sorry

In reference to Lucas’s relationship with his mom, I would never describe it as strained. I can say that even though I love her very dearly, I do not and have never blindly supported her. She doesn’t make the best decisions.

With that said, her relationship with Luke is actually very sweet. They love each other very much. They cuddle. They have the cutest little inside jokes. They’re 100% all about each other when they’re together. He calls her “mama”.

After writing all of that I realize that I’m not necessarily speaking directly to you, DAnthrplgst. I just needed to get it out there that their relationship isn’t awful or even strained in the slightest like people elsewhere have said. It’s the relationship of a mother and son who can pick up right where they left off even if there’s been too much time between their visits.

(This also reminds me of how much I love when you’re talking to him and he slightly disagrees with you so he says “weeeellllll...”)