Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #16 *Arrest*

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  • #261
Do we know if EG knew the LL was stopping by?
That's what I want to know -- was it a surprise visit? Did he call her when she didn't answer the door, or did he plan to stop by again later thinking she was in the shower, had her hands full with kids, etc, etc? If he did talk to her, did he assume she was home -- did he mention seeing Lucas to her? Or did that not come up until later during questioning--did she try to say something else happened the 16th until LLs account of seeing Lucas nullified her story? Given all here lies—and what we know about her having to backtrack her VD story--I'm very curious about this.
 
  • #262
Different vehicle?
I don’t know that EG had a different vehicle at her disposal, but I think if she borrowed one from somebody overnight that would have been revealed to LE …. I hope….it makes me wonder if that is why LE has not put out details about her personal vehicle.
Of course, IF she had help, then she may have passed off a tote or box along with other items to be “delivered” elsewhere—if anyone helped her with this, I doubt they knew the whole truth at the time, and depending on who it is they are either unaware of their role or very much wishing to not be brought into it.
 
  • #263
I respect your opinion.
I think it should be up to the family that actually loves and misses Lucas to decide whether EG gets a "sweet deal" or not.
:moo:

I don't think she should get a damn "sweet" anything. Your time will come, EG.
 
  • #264
By 'eventually screw up again' ---do you mean she will likely beat up another child or make one go missing ? I think she probably would if she got the chance. Which is why she should stay locked up, in my opinion.

Agreed. No other children can be put in harms way. That's a crazy thought.
 
  • #265
It's a shame that Lucas didn't have the same.

smh.

Indeed. I'll never forget his first interview, to which he wouldn't even get on camera. When the reporter asked about the abuse allegations from his own family- how angry he was that it was brought up, that it shouldn't be the focus. He said once Lucas was found, then they could address it, not even denying it occurred, just angry that it was brought up.

Lucas, still praying you are safe, sound, warm and thriving somewhere in a loving home. It beats the alternative- thinking (and in my heart, knowing) that you've left us at the hands of some monster that harmed you. <3
 
  • #266
Indeed. I'll never forget his first interview, to which he wouldn't even get on camera. When the reporter asked about the abuse allegations from his own family- how angry he was that it was brought up, that it shouldn't be the focus. He said once Lucas was found, then they could address it, not even denying it occurred, just angry that it was brought up.

Lucas, still praying you are safe, sound, warm and thriving somewhere in a loving home. It beats the alternative- thinking (and in my heart, knowing) that you've left us at the hands of some monster that harmed you. <3

Can't fix stupid.

Lucas & Joe Clyde... all too similar.
 
  • #267
Are we sure she even has visits? According to the original quote, it was every other Sunday. Obviously it's every Sunday. 2/4 one of her sons was hurt. 2/11 neighbors house, 2/18 visit cancelled due to Lucas missing.

The affidavit states every other Sunday -- perhaps he let her have them more frequently or on certain days for various reasons. http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article208094544.html

I agree with your post on so many levels, which begs me to ask this question- why did she even try for custody of her older children? Clearly, as you mentioned, she didn't take the parenting serious enough to do the parenting classes. Also, why didn't the judge follow up to make sure she did those classes before agreeing to let her have visitation with her children? In between the time she lost custody of them and when she was given visitation rights- there were several violent episodes between her and JH. Did the court not follow up on her actions between those times to make sure that this was a safe environment for her older children?

How did poor Lucas end up in her care while JH was away? Was this agreed upon by JH, JO, and EG verbally, or is there anything documented that this arrangement was done legitimately through the court? I can't imagine any judge worth their salt, seeing her past actions, losing custody of her own children, putting Lucas in her care, especially with JH being out of town for work for 20 days at a time, and JO not being in the picture on a daily/weekly basis to make sure that Lucas was ok in her care. She USED poor Lucas as a way to try to get custody back of her boys (IMO), and when she finally got visitation rights back, he conveniently disappears?

Did she have the baby with JH to trap him? What was her motive to have another baby, which in my eyes, would trap a person further, if they didn't want to be a parent in the first place? Was this just a game to her, with the men in her life? Men who love their children, supported them and took care of them, while she emotionally tortured the men by playing head games and being violent towards them and the children, loving the fact that she could get away with it and nothing would happen to her? She was able to place blame on JH for the recent abuse of her child and then blamed the child for poor behavior when she talked to her ex about the situation when he called her. Did she love the fact that her ex is scared to death of their children being in her care for several hours a week- is this a control issue on top of a mind game to get back at the men in her life that she thinks caused her problems?

Personally, with her past, I am just stunned that she was even allowed to raise Lucas in the first place, and I am even more stunned the that children's protection agency didn't step in and take their baby out of her care!

She is mean and violent not only towards children- her own included!, but we know of at least two episodes to which she was violent with JH! How do women like this get to keep their children as well as other people's children, with this kind of a past, especially where she didn't even have custody of her older children and was suppose to be earning the privilege to have visitation rights with them? How does this happen?

When I read the affidavit, it appears the boys' dad wasn't aware of prior violent episodes between JH & EG until Lucas went missing, so they went unreported to custody judge. Also, he's working out of Butler County; EG was in Sedgwick--so the different jurisdictions may have contributed to one hand not knowing what the other is doing (custody judge in Butler VS criminal/DV issues in Sedgwick).

I do not think so
Why do you think that she didn't have them on VD? Her ex only called to cancel the Sunday visit after Lucas was missing, to my knowledge. She had told her ex she kicked out JH after the 4th incident, so Lucas not being with her on the 14th would seem normal I would think, at least in her mind.
imo, I don’t think her response is stating one way or another
My impression when reading post #220 was that hopekiser1219 was saying “I do not think so” in response to the question “Do we know if EG had kids on VD?”

Organized searches are not going to find Lucas.
I know others have asked -- I want to hear your theory, it seems the wheels are turning!

We're going to find Lucas.
Yes!

SBBM

In one word: money. Some women have children simply as a source of money from the fathers and the gov't. They don't care about the child, the child is a means to an end, with the end being getting free money and the bonus prize of exercising power over the father of the child. I know it's hard to even comprehend that someone would do that to another person but we've all seen it play out time and time again with sociopathic personality types like EG. They use the child as a bargaining chip.

I'm positive I read in one of the earlier media threads that EG couldn't pay child support because she couldn't work due to health -- that tells us boys' dad was requesting it or had at one time, and she was avoiding it. She may have wanted custody to put that issue to rest--and perhaps turn the tables so he would have to pay her support.
 
  • #268
GUYS!

We have an awesome follower on the FB page who has contacted Pizza Hut (Corporate) and they have given the go ahead to take the flyers to the following locations:

1.1708 E Pawnee
2. 6505 E 37th St N
3. 1032 S Oliver
4. 1659 S Webb Rd

Pawnee should have reached them yesterday and the three remaining locations will have their flyers over the weekend. SO, Lucas will be on more pizza boxes :D

(Side note: If anyone can order a pizza from them next week to see if they held up their end, that would be great!)

Imma do a happy dance :happydance: :cheer:
 
  • #269
Yay! Pizza Hut gets my respect, I might even buy a pizza (here) just cause, unless they're willing to deliver here. )
 
  • #270
Yay! Pizza Hut gets my respect, I might even buy a pizza just cause.

Any excuse for a pizza ;) (I wholeheartedly agree! ;) )
 
  • #271
Indeed. I'll never forget his first interview, to which he wouldn't even get on camera. When the reporter asked about the abuse allegations from his own family- how angry he was that it was brought up, that it shouldn't be the focus. He said once Lucas was found, then they could address it, not even denying it occurred, just angry that it was brought up.

Lucas, still praying you are safe, sound, warm and thriving somewhere in a loving home. It beats the alternative- thinking (and in my heart, knowing) that you've left us at the hands of some monster that harmed you. <3

Can't fix stupid.

Lucas & Joe Clyde... all too similar.

It may be wishful thinking, but I am holding on to hope that he was/is in severe denial that EG hurt Lucas because he can't face his role in that yet, can't stomach the idea that the woman he trusted and the mother of his child would hurt his son. It troubles me that he didn't take his family's concerns seriously enough to protect Lucas, and I'm hoping all of this is because he was is so convinced of other explanations she provided. I hope that as the truth is revealed, he will wake up--I'm really hoping.
 
  • #272
I'm positive I read in one of the earlier media threads that EG couldn't pay child support because she couldn't work due to health -- that tells us boys' dad was requesting it or had at one time, and she was avoiding it. She may have wanted custody to put that issue to rest--and perhaps turn the tables so he would have to pay her support.

My thoughts exactly. Getting more time with them could have been her way of trying to get money from the ex and avoid having to pay. She would need some kind of proof she was too sick to work and if she was she should have been getting State disability, no? Was she?
 
  • #273
Oh how I'd love to join those who think JH was or even is in denial of all the abuse going on with little Lucas.
His last statement about wanting to welcome her home and that their baby needed it's "Mommy" just took that belief away from me.
He knew how violent the relationship he had with E.G. had been. We do also due to official reports.
What was he thinking for God's sake?
Leaving his kids alone with her for long stretches of time.
Seems he just wanted a babysitter.
What he's thinking now I have zero idea of.
But if the past is indicative of the present (and we all know it's a proven truism) then I'm beyond frustrated with him.
As FLA indicated he and others continue to keep her company and entertained with frequent visits.
That's likely making it much easier on E.G. to keep her mouth shut.
Chi:gaah:
:moo:
 
  • #274
Oh how I'd love to join those who think JH was or even is in denial of all the abuse going on with little Lucas.
His last statement about wanting to welcome her home and that their baby needed it's "Mommy" just took that belief away from me.
He knew how violent the relationship he had with E.G. had been. We do also due to official reports.
What was he thinking for God's sake?
Leaving his kids alone with her for long stretches of time.
Seems he just wanted a babysitter.
What he's thinking now I have zero idea of.
But if the past is indicative of the present (and we all know it's a proven truism) then I'm beyond frustrated with him.
As FLA indicated he and others continue to keep her company and entertained with frequent visits.
That's likely making it much easier on E.G. to keep her mouth shut.
Chi:gaah:
:moo:

It's disgusting that he is standing by her


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  • #275
Any excuse for a pizza ;) (I wholeheartedly agree! ;) )
Yes ANY excuse....
Thank you Pizza Hut:loveyou:
Think I will order mom a pizza.
Chi
 
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  • #278
What's your line of thinking on this?
ETA Good morning kkdj:)

Good morning! I fell back asleep!
Organized searches have looked and looked and haven't found him. I know they've tried their darnedest. My heart goes out to them.
I think she put him somewhere we haven't thought of and eventually he'll just be found. Like CA. She was just right down the street for heavens sake!
 
  • #279
I know we're aware of most of the information in the article but for me, reading it tonight pulled together a "picture" of Emily Glass that IMO we've all intuited in one way or another. Here's my "picture:"

EG has no real interest in being a mother.



EG is okay with violence in the home. She doesn't take responsibility for her own actions and instead becomes angry and blames others. She has no insight into her behavior.



http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article208094544.html

IMO EG's lack of insight is a key factor that keeps her from talking about Lucas. She just isn't wired to understand that people can see through her lies and attempts to manipulate others. I believe that she truly believes she is going to walk out of jail a free woman. She's so self-focused that she's blind to logical reasoning.

IMO her actions will come back to bite her in the :behind: but she'll never comprehend that it was her own doing. MOO.

Perfectly said!!!!


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  • #280
Organized searches are not going to find Lucas.

Do Tell!!!!! So curious to this^^^^^^^


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