Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #18 *Arrest*

[WildcatRunner]

Pre-k is on a need basis, at risk students first and others go on a waiting list. Even though in Ks attendance isn’t compulsory until age 7, once enrolled children are expected to have regular attendance within the guidelines. And if a child is special needs that age is reduced to 3. Point of reference- personal experience with USD 259 WPS. Also have found this info on their website and linked previous. But I can again if needed.


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I believe FLA said Lucas was not special needs. His speech was just difficult to understand.

Just thinking out loud...

 

[WildcatRunner]

Someone(s) said a while back that it is a transient job so moving out of state while not knowing how long job would last there doesn't really happen.

I am pretty sure it was someone whose husband or family member worked the same job as JH.

I made this statement, and I know several people who work in many aspects of the industry, and yes...he might be at a certain job site for a few weeks or months, but then could be 100's of miles away after that. So you'd always be moving. That's the reason for the off work schedules...20 on, 10 off, or similar... because basically every single employee has a "home" fairly far away they want to go back and spend time at.

Just thinking out loud...

 

[WildcatRunner]

It’s possible.

I just think if she had orchestrated his disappearance, she sure wouldn’t have been messaging JH on fb less than 24 hours prior saying she was doing drugs while caring for the kids and leaving Lucas alone while she went out to eat. JMO


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She didn't tell him she left LH alone. Marijuana use is relatively widely accepted. My spouse wouldn't question if I said I was going to have a glass of wine after a day of cleaning the house with 2 kids underfoot. They may have seen marijuana use as fairly harmless, like a lot of us see a glass of wine or a beer.

Just thinking out loud...

 

[WildcatRunner]

It states in the article that most would injure theirselves before others but then there are others with more issues and it lists some of them... I thought it sounded like EG. And combine them with substance abuse. You have a really volatile person.

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Her violence is far too planned to give her the "out" of a health condition. She took out her relationship issues with JH on his son.

Just thinking out loud...

 

[WildcatRunner]

Do you know if he was getting free or reduced lunches?

We were told he went to school from 1-4:30. He likely was not provided lunch at school.

Just thinking out loud...

 

[WildcatRunner]

This is JMO.

From this article, I think it shows that she was trying to use Lucas and JH for her own financial and personal benefit.

It appears to me she was trying to get some custody back so that would lower her custody agreement $$$ with her ex. If she could have gotten partial custody back then the $$$ agreement to him would be lowered because she would have the kids a portion of the time. This shows this.

"In July, Glass filed an affidavit in Butler County District Court arguing she should have joint custody of her two biological sons, ages 6 and 7.
As part of her argument, Glass said she has “taken care of step-son Lucas A. Hernandez for the past two and half years; clothes, bathes, feeds, plays, teaches, takes to doctors appointments, etc.”"

It could explain how she may have blown up on Lucas after the LL visit. If she felt she was going to get in trouble for leaving a child alone and that would lessen or eliminate any chance she could ever have at getting custody back then he would not be useful to her anymore. He would become disposable to her. And she may have gone off on a rage against him.

I have a feeling she uses kids and other people as a leverage in her life and that is her main motivation in having kids. Which is very sad. She strikes me as a user. Unless someone is useful to her then she has no need for them. Ive known people like that before. Always called them "users".

If any of this speculation is true then how can it help us find Lucas now though. Gosh we need to find him.
I cant shake the feeling that someone she "used" in her life may have given her help this time.

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article201898009.html

Except she wasn't paying anything to the father of her older children, so there wasn't an amount to lower. She'd said she couldn't pay, and JH would try to pay something for her, after his obligations were met, if he had money left over.

Just thinking out loud...

 

[n_6CC]

I thought this information was supposed to stay private.

Private via WS? Or private via TES? Why the sudden publicity?


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[WildcatRunner]

Private via WS? Or private via TES? Why the sudden publicity?


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I thought it was per TES. I believe someone said the searchers for them signed non-disclosure agreements, and when TES trained people to search on their own, again said not to publicize both where they had searched, or where they were going to search.

Just thinking out loud...

 

[n_6CC]

I thought it was per TES. I believe someone said the searchers for them signed non-disclosure agreements, and when TES trained people to search on their own, again said not to publicize both where they had searched, or where they were going to search.

Just thinking out loud...

Ya, I guess I’m just wondering why they would put locations that they have “checked” out there. It seems a little risky, but I guess I don’t know their reasons. MOO


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[margarita25]

Please know that I am not sticking up for EG in any way, but I had one of the severest forms of endometriosis, to the point where I had to have the endometrium lining removed in my mid 40's. It did not improve after the birth of my children I was also one of the rare lucky ones that were able to get pregnant without any issues- all within 2 years apart. EG COULD be like me, in terms of getting pregnant- just lucky.

(I had it too...I was practically bedridden a lot until surgery)

I'm sorry for your traumatic pain and all you've experienced with your sister. My brother was missing for five months before we found his skeletized body. Words aren't enough to explain the excruciating misery, the nightmares, the fear that accompanies one's psyche in the "not knowing" So many what, where, when, how and why questions ignite the mind and heart's quench for sanity. Each involved family must make the decision for themselves to how to best proceed with recommendations from LE and the legal system to find peace and justice. My brother is now silently at rest, that fact provides some solace and comfort to my parents. I know if we would not have ever found him, we would still be searching today, even after 12 years. My heart hurts for those who love Lucas. This case has forced me to grow another layer around my own heart.

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I don't mean to put pressure on the family in any way. I am sorry if they took it that way. I feel extremely bad about Lucas. It I keeps me up at night.


I don't understand the heart of a person who could be so cruel as to take someone's child from them and never give them the solace of putting that child to rest.


Every Sunday I light a vigil candle for Lucas in church. If I lived closer I would be out there searching. He reminds me of my grandson Brady.


We didn't find my sister right away either. She was in a national park here.


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What if she had this and is not Bipolar???


Ittermittent Explosive Disorder


It is often misdiagnosed...


https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...sorder-what-it-is-and-what-we-can-do-about-it


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Interesting article. From the above link:

"The underlying anger must be consciously acknowledged, accepted, understood and its indestructibly dynamic energy redirected into some positive or creative activity. While it may be driven deeper underground rendering it doubly dangerous, it won't just disappear or go away, no matter how much medication, meditation, intellectualization or cognitiverestructuring is done. Our anger is here to stay. The only real question is what we do with it."

Addiction just sounds terrible.
So, let's say EG had an addiction. She had just moved from Andover where she grew up to Witchita. One would expect her supplier to be in Andover, where she grew up and had just moved from. Gets me thinking if the 2 strange people that early morning were people sent to her from her supplier for a delivery. (If the story is even true) Andover is 17.5 miles to Witchita.

Jumping off this, she might not necessarily have the same dealer, as I've seen on "Intervention" people can just go to a shady part of town/ known drug dealing area and ask someone on the street, moo.

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Does anyone know how EG and JH met each other? And how long they've actually known each other? Tia.


Ps: I still haven't come across an answer on the Life Insurance Policy question...?

She wanted to be near her sons. Which makes sense.

I wonder what all her own children have to say, poor kids...

It’s possible.


I just think if she had orchestrated his disappearance, she sure wouldn’t have been messaging JH on fb less than 24 hours prior saying she was doing drugs while caring for the kids and leaving Lucas alone while she went out to eat. JMO

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IF it was just pot, he might not have cared about that. Maybe or maybe not.

She didn't tell him she left LH alone. Marijuana use is relatively widely accepted. My spouse wouldn't question if I said I was going to have a glass of wine after a day of cleaning the house with 2 kids underfoot. They may have seen marijuana use as fairly harmless, like a lot of us see a glass of wine or a beer.


Just thinking out loud...

Just saw this, I pretty much just said the same thing above.

 

[PetDetective]

I meant she wouldn’t have said those things in writing had she been anticipating the police contact that reporting Lucas missing would obviously bring her way.


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[margarita25]

I meant she wouldn’t have said those things in writing had she been anticipating the police contact that reporting Lucas missing would obviously bring her way.


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I hear ya!

 

[margarita25]

Maybe we can all light a candle like we did for Dylan...What was that site? Tia.

 

[DakotaMayi]

I so want to be here for Lucas... and I am. But I have nothing to add to help you sweet boy. I'm so sorry.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I so want to be here for Lucas... and I am. But I have nothing to add to help you sweet boy. I'm so sorry.

I feel exactly the same. I log in and check this thread every single day (sometimes several times a day) and just keep hoping against all odds that he's actually safe somewhere and has been located.

 

[Busylady]

I know the majority of Lucas family is doing everything they possibly can to find Lucas and get answers. I just wish that all sides could come together and that people unknown to the family would not interject themselves in the case and cause all the drama and "turning" one side against the other side type thing. This makes the job for LE much harder and also so much more painful for the family.

 

[Kamm5]

I think right now their most valuable interviewee is JH. I have no doubt he's been questioned up one side & down the other, but hopefully he'll begin to see the things that we're all seeing, and take a hard look inside himself and at EG. I pray that he'll be able to work through the walls of denial and end up helping LE as much as he can.

As strongly as I feel about his past decisions (including/especially failure to protect his children), I don't necessarily feel that he was in on the actual crime itself. I do think that he knows more than we the public are aware of (and frankly we have no right to know) and I hope he will come to be willing to work closely with the investigation. The time for being embarrassed/defensive about past choices is over. He will have to take responsibility for those choices and accept the consequences for them. But the true test will be how moving forward to the benefit of his children is handled.


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JH was gone alot so I want to know who her person was when he was gone. A friend her cousin who is her go to person

 

[ScarlettLin]

I believe FLA said Lucas was not special needs. His speech was just difficult to understand.

Just thinking out loud...

I mean no disrespect. FLA had indicated I believe that he was supposed to receive speech services which could be considered a child with an exceptionality for educational purposes
http://www.ksde.org/Portals/0/SES/misc/iep/EligibilityIndicators.pdf


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[flute4peace]

I believe FLA said Lucas was not special needs. His speech was just difficult to understand.

Just thinking out loud...

"At risk" doesn't necessarily mean special needs. In my district (same state) the criteria are fairly broad. L would qualify as the child of a single parent.

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[newmember]

I meant she wouldn’t have said those things in writing had she been anticipating the police contact that reporting Lucas missing would obviously bring her way.


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imo, that's bc of 1 of 3 things:
1. this wasnt premeditated at all, it was a long line of abuse Lucas endured that eventually (and unexpectedly to EG) took over
2. it was half premeditated (if thats a thing). she was starting to plan/think and then an accident happened w Lucas that night which forced her plan into action
3. entirely premeditated and she wanted things to appear par for the course to JH aka normal messaging (their primary communication method) so JH would have no reason to suspect her. i very much agree that most ppl, particularly 20s and younger, dont view marijuana as a big deal at all and i wouldnt have judged her for smoking a responsible amount in the home, similar to having 1-2 glasses of wine. driving the kids under any influence is a little sketchy to me but there are a lot parents that view as fine if they are under the legal limit of alcohol or havent smoked a lot. i wouldnt be surprised if her and JH had an inside joke about getting high and stuffing their faces with bottomless pasta at OG so she maybe inserted it for normalcy.