Found Deceased Ks - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #27

[Deleted member 221026]

I had an epiphany last night after Tricia’s post.

“It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.”

~ Mark Twain

 

[KsFarmGirl]

Speaking of the landlord, I'll bet he is going to be more careful on who he rents to in the future. Super-duper background checks.

There's another life affected by EG. Who in the world would want to rent that house knowing what happened there.

 

[Kadoober]

I tried so hard to get caught up and read every post, but I'll admit I had to skim some, I'm soooo far behind on posts!

I mentioned this to my husband who said - 'you are not on deadline, weirdo. You don't have to read every single post. You know what's going on, isn't that enough? You know it's Saturday, right?'

I hate when he's right. He gets all gloaty. I can't tell him he's right.

Random thoughts on the past few days.

*She's out, but it won't be for long. And even if it should end up being for long, it won't be for good. Rome wasn't built in a day (my new mantra)
*I rather like the fact that she can hear all about how DM and co. played her like a fiddle. It's petty, but it makes me happy.
*I have to think that JH isn't publicly condemning EG yet because he can't accept what her guilt means about HIS parenting, or lack thereof. All the things going on right under his nose that he chose to pass. It's the only approach I can manage that is keeping from taking a road trip to Wichita. You don't know who to trust? Trust EG, when she LEADS SOMEONE TO YOUR SONS BODY. UGH.

This: "Emily: I don't know exactly where it's at. I just know it's in Kechi."
Tell us everything we ever needed to know about her feelings for Lucas. I know Lucas was gone from his body, but for Pete's sake, 'it's' a HE. His name is LUCAS. She makes me sick.

 

[deedee21]

On John Lourdan's Brainscratch on Lucas today he said something to the extent that he was surprised how much of a pass JH was getting on websleuths.He needs to read this thread today.He is a big fan of this site.

JH had physical custody.
Well he was suppose to.
Emily did.
Jamie's visitation was at JH descretion.
But EG called all the shots.
He let her take the reins.
He should have taken the bull by the horns
and acted like a man.

 

[Jo in Calif]

I tried so hard to get caught up and read every post, but I'll admit I had to skim some, I'm soooo far behind on posts!

I mentioned this to my husband who said - 'you are not on deadline, weirdo. You don't have to read every single post. You know what's going on, isn't that enough? You know it's Saturday, right?'

I hate when he's right. He gets all gloaty. I can't tell him he's right.

Random thoughts on the past few days.

*She's out, but it won't be for long. And even if it should end up being for long, it won't be for good. Rome wasn't built in a day (my new mantra)
*I rather like the fact that she can hear all about how DM and co. played her like a fiddle. It's petty, but it makes me happy.
*I have to think that JH isn't publicly condemning EG yet because he can't accept what her guilt means about HIS parenting, or lack thereof. All the things going on right under his nose that he chose to pass. It's the only approach I can manage that is keeping from taking a road trip to Wichita. You don't know who to trust? Trust EG, when she LEADS SOMEONE TO YOUR SONS BODY. UGH.

This: "Emily: I don't know exactly where it's at. I just know it's in Kechi."
Tell us everything we ever needed to know about her feelings for Lucas. I know Lucas was gone from his body, but for Pete's sake, 'it's' a HE. His name is LUCAS. She makes me sick.

I love your posts and you also but I think she was referring to the location when she said it and not Lucas.

 

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[Kadoober]

I love your posts and you also but I think she was referring to the location when she said it and not Lucas.

<3 I hope so! Thank you for stifling my fury at that statement. I saw red.
Context matters, I may have taken that statement out of context.

 

[Spartygirl]

I guess I just will never be able to grasp why this little boy had to loose his life. My 2 Grandson's age 4 and 6 ( turned 6 Feb 22 nd ) live with me as does their Mom. My 4 year old and I are very close, He will be 5 in November. My 6 year old yes very ornery especially when with cousin Oliver also just turned 6 ( in April My twin cousin Grandsons) . None of these boys this age has done a thing to make me upset enough to even hit them. I don't hit kids either. I guess having kids around me 24/7 about same age as Lucas I just can not grasp as WHY.Whats EG excuse.

I hear what you are saying... I dont think EG has an excuse, it is just the way she is. I spend a lot of time with my 2 grandkids, a 9 YR old girl and a 5 YR old boy who has the best personality ever. How anyone could possibly hurt a child, I will never be able to comprehend. PLUS, how anyone that knows that a child is being abused and yet stands by the abuser, is just as guilty IMO

 

[deedee21]

Yes, Gray Hughes is a member of WS as well. His videos are allowed to be posted. I don't know if he's done any videos for Lucas' case. If he has, feel free to post them here.

I checked and have not seen any videos on Lucas. He would have given us a birdseye view of the area for sure.

 

[Charliegizmo49]

I do think that could be part of it re JH. I also think EG was much more street smart and had learned the con game. She used it and of course sex to lure him. He grew to love her and trust her. I think that's what he was referring to when he said he didn't know who to trust anymore, because he got conned big time!

I think Sex and lust is a huge part of it. And she is much inclined to use it.

I don’t like professional career women that use it nor anyone else. If you can’t origress on merit then you shouldn’t sleep your way anywhere. I tried to say it before without coming right out and saying it. I’m glad you did. Thanks.

 

[Charliegizmo49]

Wichita babysitter who made child sentenced Friday, June 1, 2018

A Wichita woman who produced child while she was babysitting a 7-year-old girl in her home has been sentenced to 15 years in federal prison.

U.S. Attorney Stephen McAllister said 47-year-old Stefanie Larsen was sentenced Thursday after previously pleading guilty to one count of production of child .

In her plea, Larsen admitted she allowed a man to produce a series of videos in which he masturbated in the presence of the sleeping child. When the child awoke and cried out, Larsen told her she had just had a bad dream.

The man paid Larsen to let him make the videos.

The man, 55-year-old Bill Raymond, was sentenced in December to more than 17 years in prison on child charges. Raymond is a former Manhattan city attorney.
Wichita babysitter who made child sentenced to prison

Larsen will be waiting for Emily to claim her as her prison . Have fun in prison, Emily. Don’t turn your back.

THIS WOMAN IS SICK.

 

[PetDetective]

I married into a family of sociopaths/narcissists. I know what I speak of.

I don’t doubt that you do. However, I have a lifetime of experiences that have showed me how quickly and easily “most” people fall for their antics.

There is a drastic difference between how people who have, little to no experience with sociopaths, a lot of experience that began as an adult, and grown up studying their close relatives/parental units behaviors who are sociopaths, view their kind.

You most likely came into the situation as an adult who had been told stories or possibly even cautioned about your wife’s sociopathic relatives. As well as having the luxury of being an adult who could remain distanced from those people.

When you are born into a sociopathic family, you don’t have the luxury of a fully developed brain to process their behaviors, or knowledge that it is not normal, not your fault, etc. I have spent far too much of my life trying to figure out why outsiders pretty much always buy my relatives BS hook, line, and sinker. It’s so clear to me how selfish, manipulative, cold & calculating they truly are, but everyone else thinks they’re the greatest thing since sliced bread. The most logical answer to me is that people in general (minus psychologists, therapists, etc.) don’t recognize a sociopath until they’ve spent a considerable amount of time with that person, UNLESS they have a fairly extensive history with one.

 

[Charliegizmo49]

Your post are always spot on and I love reading them....

Agree. I raised my 2 to work and have respect. They were both on our commercial fishing boat the first year we had it. They paid their way mostly through college and have bought houses and hold down high level jobs. EG HAS had 3 kids lived off the system and injected smoked or ? All her life. Nothing of substance. And she was most likely living off JH the entire relationship. M
What a piece of work. And that’s not a positive statement.


LE knew right away she did something to Lucas, her personal history screams it.

And regardless of what can be proven at trial she is going to be the second most hated woman in the country. And she can’t ever outrun that.

 

[Blef]

My two cents on JH.

I feel sorry that he has lost his son. However, I think he let a certain part of his anatomy make decisions for him when it came to EG. I can't forget that he hurt EG's child and is being charged with that and so I feel angry that he did that. I also think that EG hurt Lucas more when JH was away so he wasn't aware of the full extent of the abuse, and she could come up with the "he fell off the monkey bars/roughhousing with cousins" excuses when he spoke to Lucas via facetime or messenger, however he did know. EG is definitely unhinged, bipolar and using meth, well she is a time bomb. She is also manipulative and had JH firmly by his privates. She said jump and he replied "just tell me when to come down". I also think that his family/JO's family maybe have never liked EG and he probably put down their CPS calls as them getting at EG and trying to split them up. I'm sure she used that with him, and he believed what she said. I imagine her saying "They are only doing this to come between us" and him being so controlled by her that he agreed.

Since David Mashburn came onto the scene I think he's had a massive wake up call and he's probably feeling extremely ashamed by his lack of protection for his son. I'm sure he's going over the incidents that were explained away as "boys will be boys" now, and it's hit him that these incidents were at the hands of a sociopathic, manipulative meth head who he didn't really know at all.

I'm angry with him for not protecting Lucas, but I feel sorry for him that he's now going to have to bury his son, who I believe he DID love.

 

[Charliegizmo49]

In my opinion you need to remember that JH injured EG's sons and has been charged with child abuse. Does anyone think that he did this to her children but not his own son? Really? You need to count back to when Lucas was first described as being sick, hurting stomach, vomiting and everything else. This all started at the very same timeline as the instance of JH injuring EG's sons. Coincidental? No, I don't think so. Lucas could have very easily have died due to an injury he received when his father was abusing the other children in the home. He absolutely does not get a pass from me and never will.
Sometime you have to see past the BS and do the math.

Not been proven yet. May very will be. But JO clearly stated JH never violent that she observed. EG PRObABLy KNEW EXACTLY WHAT BUTTONS TO PUSH. and in the end it’s his action his responsibility. But let legal process run.

 

[Charliegizmo49]

That's what I was alluding to. She has sympathizers and I wonder if they will influence her to go and show her deep sorrow, thinking it might show well for her.

Never know her train of thought. It’s self serving and sick though.

 

[Charliegizmo49]

Speaking of the landlord, I'll bet he is going to be more careful on who he rents to in the future. Super-duper background checks.

Yes they are I can assure you. It’s been a horror for them as well

 

[Charliegizmo49]

hjopefully back in jail

I feel like she even conned us. Poor Lucas was under a bridge right off the road. Jamie was right— she’s lazy and a pathetic criminal at that.

Her arm cuts were obviously from grabbing plant debris to put on top of him.

I’m still incredibly interested if she talked to JH on Friday night after getting the kids down. It’s a very unsettling feeling when I think of how that conversation went or what was talked about.

So we’ve heard that her cellphone was still on when she was disposing of LH, correct? Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it also noted that her phone was turned off at some point that night/day? Does anyone have details on this?

Check the info from Marshburn. I think it in an interview I read. I don’t think it’s podcasts though. If I find I’ll let you know.

 

[DakotaMayi]

Whew finally caught up and it's about my bedtime but I had to reply.
I'm sure you remember how Darlie Routier acted at her sons' funerals, right?
(and just for the record I do still think her guilty, possibly with her dh's "help" after...)
There is no telling what would or would not show on EG's face.
Psychopaths, sociopaths, narcissists et al can be pretty allusive or they can drop tells.
Is it going to happen for sure? Who knows?
IMHO she isn't dumb but she is evil.
And nothing she may ever have been diagnosed with would excuse this in any way.
Chi

The dancing? Oh yeah.

 

[castilloisno1]

Some people were wondering where EG would be staying. In the NG podcast,DM said that on Thursday,he drove over to EG's aunt's house. Wonder if this is the infamous cousin's house where Lucas had to "be careful"??? While I was at the gym yesterday,I was people watching and I thought of how EG might think she is free,but is she??? If she stays close, she won't be able to go make an OG run after smoking her 3 bowls. Her face is now recognizable and even if it hasn't been proven yet in court,people associate her with Lucas' injuries. Her image of being such a good mother is fractured forever. Her actions have tainted her reputation and she can never recover from that.