Found Deceased Ks - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #31

[Kadie]

I've heard the question asked and don't recall the answer - are mandated reporters required to report in the personal lives as well, or only when "on the clock"? I was thinking it was only when in regard to work (although I would hope they would at all times, even if it's not required).

24/7 in Michigan

 

[flute4peace]

I think with all the scrutiny they are getting ,and rightfully so they would be on this.They failed Lucas. Are they willing to gamble on any more children's lives?

He's scheduled for trial. Not sure what more they can do?

 

[Tssiemer]

24/7 in Michigan

24/7 in KY and OH too. I’m a Licensed Social Worker and have been put in this situation on my personal time on several occasions.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

He's scheduled for trial. Not sure what more they can do?

Stay on it. Don't drop it. Just because E.G. is gone.

 

[flute4peace]

24/7 in Michigan

Thanks for answering. So if you see a kid with bruises when you're in the grocery store, for example, you're required to report? Even though your observation isn't taking place through your work?

 

[Tssiemer]

Thanks for answering. So if you see a kid with bruises when you're in the grocery store, for example, you're required to report? Even though your observation isn't taking place through your work?

Yes. If you know identifying information. Wait I read this wrong.

Some random kid with bruises? No.
If I see an adult hit a child. Yes.
If I see a child in a dangerous situation. Yes.
If I suspect abuse of a child I know. Yes.

Severity and urgency also dictates if it’s a call to the hotline or 911.

 

[flute4peace]

Stay on it. Don't drop it. Just because E.G. is gone.

I'm not seeing any reason for why they would. EG has nothing to do with the case, other than she happened to be the mother of the victim. It's a criminal case against JH. In the legal sense, she's irrelevant.

 

[flute4peace]

Yes. If you know identifying information. Wait I read this wrong.

Some random kid with bruises? No.
If I see an adult hit a child. Yes.
If I see a child in a dangerous situation. Yes.
If I suspect abuse of a child I know. Yes.

Severity and urgency also dictates if it’s a call to the hotline or 911.

Thank you, that answers my questions. Bless you for what you do!

 

[tnith]

Yes. If you know identifying information. Wait I read this wrong.

Some random kid with bruises? No.
If I see an adult hit a child. Yes.
If I see a child in a dangerous situation. Yes.
If I suspect abuse of a child I know. Yes.

Severity and urgency also dictates if it’s a call to the hotline or 911.

This is the sad part. It's all subjective.

EG knew how to make her abuse invisible and palatable to anyone who encountered it.

The most telling signs are the subtle ones. The flinching. Glazed look (deer in headlights). How independent vs submissive a child appears in public.

The many faces Lucas put on in the photos left behind, showing his wide and worldly awareness of when it was ok to exist and when to just wait until it was again.

 

[castilloisno1]

24/7 in KY and OH too. I’m a Licensed Social Worker and have been put in this situation on my personal time on several occasions.

same in PA 24/7

 

[Tortoise]

The tattoo stickers. I followed a case where the grandparents saw their granddaughter with face paints covering facial bruising. The next day she died at her father's hands. Don't know why, I just thought I would mention it. These abusers are all of the same ilk.

 

[casesensitive]

The tattoo stickers. I followed a case where the grandparents saw their granddaughter with face paints covering facial bruising. The next day she died at her father's hands. Don't know why, I just thought I would mention it. These abusers are all of the same ilk.

FLA said it was Lucas who covered his bruises with tattoo stickers. I found that even more heart-breaking than Emily doing it.

 

[castilloisno1]

I wish I understood what type of lease that Jon and Emily had on that house. Month-to-month or as in most cases 1 year. Were they co-signers on the lease?? No one ever mentioned anyone seeing people move things from the house. All I ever saw in MSM is that they asked not to place any more mementoes at the house any more. Pretty awkward if the killer of the child was still living there....maybe the two of them still held keys to the place?? I am just trying to figure out if Emily was staying there and not just coming that Thursday and staying into early Friday morning.

 

[Tortoise]

FLA said it was Lucas who covered his bruises with tattoo stickers. I found that even more heart-breaking than Emily doing it.

oh my.

 

[ScarlettLin]

I'm not sure if they actually had been served yet. Still she had to know they were coming.

the DA stayed they were receiving things that had been subpoenaed. So they had been served.

 

[kansasjason]

Yes. If you know identifying information. Wait I read this wrong.

Some random kid with bruises? No.
If I see an adult hit a child. Yes.
If I see a child in a dangerous situation. Yes.
If I suspect abuse of a child I know. Yes.

Severity and urgency also dictates if it’s a call to the hotline or 911.

Please define “hit” and “dangerous situation.” Does that include spanking in love and restraint, or not vaccinating children, or leaving kids in the car with the windows down while running into a rural gas station? The problem is the subjectivity of the definitions. That causes distrust of the state. Not at play on this case, but important to note in the broader discussion of the role of the state in parenting (which should be minimal).

 

[margarita25]

AA...Greeley Co ..flag. At work can’t post.

 

[KareBear35]

This is the sad part. It's all subjective.

EG knew how to make her abuse invisible and palatable to anyone who encountered it.

The most telling signs are the subtle ones. The flinching. Glazed look (deer in headlights). How independent vs submissive a child appears in public.

The many faces Lucas put on in the photos left behind, showing his wide and worldly awareness of when it was ok to exist and when to just wait until it was again.

It's so sad that little LH's last days of life were filled with fear, sadness and pain. I tell ya, all this really eats at me. Bruises also take time to heal on the surface. I don't buy that in three years, JH didn't come home at least once, and see LH with a bruise or two.

 

[2Hope4]

AA...Greeley Co ..flag. At work can’t post.

Child found safe, was cancelled

 

[MissMalowe]

maybe I'm just a jerk I don't get the love for either bio parent.MOO

Not a jerk. It's your opinion. I share similar sentiments for both as well, but realize that overall many think very highly of JO and because we also have a very kind VI who is relation, out of respect, I've kept those feelings mostly to myself. I'm only mentioning those feelings now because it can sometimes be difficult to post thoughts/opinions on something when it's definitely not a popular opinion and I respected your ability to do so.

I have also wondered if others shared that opinion but refrained from posting about it for reasons similar to my own.