GUILTY KS - Three adults & toddler brutally murdered, Ottawa, 6 May 2013

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Bond set at $10m

Three first degree murder charges
 
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The Franklin County Attorney’s office filed criminal charges Friday against Kyle T. Flack, including two counts of capital murder, four counts of murder in the first degree, one count of rape and one count of criminal possession of a firearm.

http://ottawaherald.com/news/051013flackcourt
 
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Hang on, now 4 counts; one of rape
 
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The Franklin County Attorney’s office filed criminal charges Friday against Kyle T. Flack, including two counts of capital murder, four counts of murder in the first degree, one count of rape and one count of criminal possession of a firearm.

http://ottawaherald.com/news/051013flackcourt

that's way more sensible than me trying to overhear the reporter on the phone on the livestream!
 
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2 counts capitol murder, 4 counts 1st degree murder, 1 count rape and 1 count felon in possession of a fire arm.
 
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Wow, 4 counts of murder, one of rape and I can't remeber the others
 
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RAPE!!!

Shouldn't be surprised from a BABY KILLER
 
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Please, what is the difference between capital & 1st degree murder?
 
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41 Action News ‏@41ActionNews 1m
Franklin Co. news conference: Kyle Flack has not indicated where 18-month-old Lana Bailey is, authorities do not believe she is alive

Julie Kellogg ‏@JulieKCTV5 1m
BREAKING: Prosecutors think Steven White was killed before Kaylie Bailey, Lana Bailey and Andrew Stout. Flack hasn't said where Lana is.

Rob Zerwekh ‏@zerwekh 2m WDAF-TV FOX 4 Producer
Timeline: Steven White killed as early as April 20, Andrew Stout, Kaylie and Lana Bailey killed later.

Karen Fuller ‏@KarenKCTV5 6m
Murder suspect Kyle Flack charged in Franklin Co. with capital murder/rape. In court again the 13th.

Karen Fuller ‏@KarenKCTV5 7m
Ottawa bodies update - Kyle Flack charged with capitol murder/rape. Bond at $10m.

Julie Kellogg ‏@JulieKCTV5 9m
BREAKING: Kyle Flack will be back in court on Monday, May 13th. Bond is set at $10 million.
 
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Please, what is the difference between capital & 1st degree murder?

http://kansasstatutes.lesterama.org/Chapter_21/Article_34/21-3439.html

Statute 21-3439: Capital murder. (a) Capital murder is the:
(1) Intentional and premeditated killing of any person in the commission of kidnapping, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3420 and amendments thereto, or aggravated kidnapping, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3421 and amendments thereto, when the kidnapping or aggravated kidnapping was committed with the intent to hold such person for ransom;

(2) intentional and premeditated killing of any person pursuant to a contract or agreement to kill such person or being a party to the contract or agreement pursuant to which such person is killed;

(3) intentional and premeditated killing of any person by an inmate or prisoner confined in a state correctional institution, community correctional institution or jail or while in the custody of an officer or employee of a state correctional institution, community correctional institution or jail;

(4) intentional and premeditated killing of the victim of one of the following crimes in the commission of, or subsequent to, such crime: Rape, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3502 and amendments thereto, criminal sodomy, as defined in subsections (a)(2) or (a)(3) of K.S.A. 21-3505 and amendments thereto or aggravated criminal sodomy, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3506 and amendments thereto, or any attempt thereof, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3301 and amendments thereto;

(5) intentional and premeditated killing of a law enforcement officer, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3110 and amendments thereto;

(6) intentional and premeditated killing of more than one person as a part of the same act or transaction or in two or more acts or transactions connected together or constituting parts of a common scheme or course of conduct; or

(7) intentional and premeditated killing of a child under the age of 14 in the commission of kidnapping, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3420 and amendments thereto, or aggravated kidnapping, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3421 and amendments thereto, when the kidnapping or aggravated kidnapping was committed with intent to commit a sex offense upon or with the child or with intent that the child commit or submit to a sex offense.

(b) For purposes of this section, "sex offense" means rape, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3502 and amendments thereto, aggravated indecent liberties with a child, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3504 and amendments thereto, aggravated criminal sodomy, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3506 and amendments thereto, prostitution, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3512 and amendments thereto, promoting prostitution, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3513 and amendments thereto or sexual exploitation of a child, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3516 and amendments thereto.

(c) Capital murder is an off-grid person felony.

(d) This section shall be part of and supplemental to the Kansas criminal code.

http://kansasstatutes.lesterama.org/Chapter_21/Article_34/21-3401.html

Crimes And Punishments
PART II.--PROHIBITED CONDUCT
Article 34: Crimes Against Persons
Statute 21-3401: Murder in the first degree. Murder in the first degree is the killing of a human being committed:
(a) Intentionally and with premeditation; or

(b) in the commission of, attempt to commit, or flight from an inherently dangerous felony as defined in K.S.A. 21-3436 and amendments thereto.

Murder in the first degree is an off-grid person felony.
 
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This is so sad.
 
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Bobby Burch ‏@BobBurch 2m Web editor, reporter, photographer for @oheraldnews
Kyle Flack appeared nonchalant in his hearing; rolled his eyes at the charges, the judge and taunted prosecutors: pic.twitter.com/nbzTHud6Wq

Bobby Burch ‏@BobBurch 1m
The 2 counts of capital murder charges against Flack are eligible for the death penalty and not w/ 1st degree charges pic.twitter.com/HUzC1esHIp
 
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So they think White was killed sometime between 20-28 April, before the others.

According to http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/05/08/Update-Three-bodies-found-on-farm-in-Kansas/9691368013155/

Bailey and Stout's family members told investigators they had contacted banking and phone services and were told Stout had not used his phone or credit card since April 25, the same day he was fired from his job at an American Eagle Outfitters distribution center.

All sorts of possibilities.. but it makes me think White was killed and Stout may have been held to lure Kaylie out, or to keep up a facade of normalcy whilst Flack did.. what? Then Kaylie shows up.
 
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I certainly hope that the family had been informed about the rape before the hearing. I'm sure they were, but I was shocked!

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Cliff Judy ‏@CliffJudy 1m KMBC 9 in Kansas City
Flack charges are complicated. One capital murder charge covers Stout, Kaylie Bailey, & Lana Bailey. All have alt 1st Deg Murder charges.
 

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