GUILTY KS - Three killed in shooting at Jewish center, Overland Park, 13 April 2014

[LinasK]

Frazier Glenn Cross hopes to convince jury he was driven to kill



http://www.kmbc.com/news/frazier-glenn-cross-hopes-to-convince-jury-he-was-driven-to-kill/35046244

What an idiot!!! :banghead::banghead::banghead:He'll never get it. Hatred is an aggravating factor, NOT a mitigating one! Oh puleassssse, "Spare my life because I hate Jews". :behindbarWell you know what Frazier-get a clue, we Jews hate you too!!!!!:stormingmad:
He needs to be shut up and not given any more platforms to spew his hatred, that's all this is for him, an opportunity.

 

[Jewels53]

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 6h6 hours ago
Cross trial: no jury, Cross wants to present evidence of his efforts to plead guilty early on. #JCCshooting

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 6h6 hours ago
Cross trial: prosecution says they rejected offer that would have sent Cross to federal prison for life.

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 6h6 hours ago
Cross wants to tell the jury about offers to plead guilty to all charges if death penalty taken off table.

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 5h5 hours ago
Cross trial: former mayor of Marionville, Mo says forced to resign for friendship with Cross. But doesn't condone.

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 5h5 hours ago
Cross questioning his son now. Asking about their family background. Has a daughter who's a teacher. No video allowed. #JCCshooting

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 4h4 hours ago
Frazier Miller Jr: can only say to victims' families, "I'm sorry." Says no one else in family believes the way his father does. #JCCshooting

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 4h4 hours ago
Cross's son doesn't want face shown, but spoke at length: thinks his father regrets #JCCshooting but won't admit it.

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 3h3 hours ago
Cross's son: father tried to condition family to his beliefs but "none of my family believes the way he believes."

 

[Jewels53]

What an idiot!!! :banghead::banghead::banghead:He'll never get it. Hatred is an aggravating factor, NOT a mitigating one! Oh puleassssse, "Spare my life because I hate Jews". :behindbarWell you know what Frazier-get a clue, we Jews hate you too!!!!!:stormingmad:
He needs to be shut up and not given any more platforms to spew his hatred, that's all this is for him, an opportunity.

I totally agree with you, he needs to be shut up forever and never be able to spew his hate again. Even though the people he shot were not jewish, his hatred for the jewish is uncalled for. I am not sure if this was considered at hate crime or not. If not it sure should have been.

I live not too far from the area this happened. This really shook up the area, and you just don't find this kind of hatred in the Kansas City area.

 

[LinasK]

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 6h6 hours ago
Cross trial: no jury, Cross wants to present evidence of his efforts to plead guilty early on. #JCCshooting

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 6h6 hours ago
Cross trial: prosecution says they rejected offer that would have sent Cross to federal prison for life.

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 6h6 hours ago
Cross wants to tell the jury about offers to plead guilty to all charges if death penalty taken off table.

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 5h5 hours ago
Cross trial: former mayor of Marionville, Mo says forced to resign for friendship with Cross. But doesn't condone.

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 5h5 hours ago
Cross questioning his son now. Asking about their family background. Has a daughter who's a teacher. No video allowed. #JCCshooting

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 4h4 hours ago
Frazier Miller Jr: can only say to victims' families, "I'm sorry." Says no one else in family believes the way his father does. #JCCshooting

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 4h4 hours ago
Cross's son doesn't want face shown, but spoke at length: thinks his father regrets #JCCshooting but won't admit it.

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 3h3 hours ago
Cross's son: father tried to condition family to his beliefs but "none of my family believes the way he believes."

BBM. Sounds like when Jodi Arias tried to plead guilty to 2nd degree murder and they wouldn't let her because it was clearly 1st degree- premeditated!

 

[LinasK]

I totally agree with you, he needs to be shut up forever and never be able to spew his hate again. Even though the people he shot were not jewish, his hatred for the jewish is uncalled for. I am not sure if this was considered at hate crime or not. If not it sure should have been.

I live not too far from the area this happened. This really shook up the area, and you just don't find this kind of hatred in the Kansas City area.

Glad to hear it. Think I have some cousins who are Jewish in K.C. That'd make me more likely to visit them.

 

[BUF]

I totally agree with you, he needs to be shut up forever and never be able to spew his hate again. Even though the people he shot were not jewish, his hatred for the jewish is uncalled for. I am not sure if this was considered at hate crime or not. If not it sure should have been.

I live not too far from the area this happened. This really shook up the area, and you just don't find this kind of hatred in the Kansas City area.

It couldn't agree more.

I had read that Kansas didn't currently have a charge for hate crimes, but U.S. Attorney Barry Grissom said additional hate crime charges will likely be coming soon on the federal level. Did that ever happen? I haven't found that anywhere.

If so, he could end up in a Supermax Federal prison which would be better. He has been in a Federal prison previously and has a long criminal history.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/frazier-glenn-miller

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Also, found this recent article for whatever it's worth...

Death penalty will prolong Frazier Glenn Cross's public show, son says

http://m.kmbc.com/news/death-penalty-will-prolong-frazier-glenn-crosss-public-show-son-says/35065820

 

[LinasK]

It couldn't agree more.

I had read that Kansas didn't currently have a charge for hate crimes, but U.S. Attorney Barry Grissom said additional hate crime charges will likely be coming soon on the federal level. Did that ever happen? I haven't found that anywhere.

If so, he could end up in a Supermax Federal prison which would be better. He has been in a Federal prison previously and has a long criminal history.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/frazier-glenn-miller

....

Also, found this recent article for whatever it's worth...

Death penalty will prolong Frazier Glenn Cross's public show, son says

http://m.kmbc.com/news/death-penalty-will-prolong-frazier-glenn-crosss-public-show-son-says/35065820

Thank God he wasn't able to indoctrinate his children. This is one perp's family I might actually have sympathy for...

 

[Jewels53]

I can't find anything about this being a hate crime. If you google Frazier Glen Cross you will find all kinds of interesting information. Most can't be posted here as they are not MSM links.

He is from southern MO and not the Kansas City Area.

I am not originally from the state of Kansas and in my opinion KS is not very serious about punishing their criminals. There are 9 people on Death Row and the last person put to Death was in 1965.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2014/may/31/death-penalty-kansas-will-state-ever-execute-priso/

all imo

 

[MzOpinion8d]

Glad to hear it. Think I have some cousins who are Jewish in K.C. That'd make me more likely to visit them.

He didn't even live in KC, or KS for that matter. He drove from somewhere in MO to do his evil.

If I recall correctly, they weren't able to bring the hate crime charges since his victims weren't actual members of a targeted group...a technicality. On the one hand it's infuriating, but on the other it stole some of his thunder at least.

 

[BUF]

Death penalty remains tough issue for Kansas juries

Cross, an avowed white supremacist who says his anti-Semitic beliefs prompted him to target Jews at the Jewish Community Center and Village Shalom, is trying to convince the jury to give him a sentence of life in prison instead.

“I don’t think anyone ever wants to go to the execution chamber, and I think he’s among those also. So I think he’ll fight hard to keep that from happening,” said David Langston.

Langston, a defense attorney, said he’s been watching the trial as it has played out in Olathe.
....

Kansas is among 30 states that have not carried out an executive in the last five years. Many states are in a holding pattern as lawyers battle over lethal injection drugs. Some states have backed up lethal injection with other methods, including Utah, which just approved the use of a firing squad last year.

Missouri, Cross’ home state, has been executing inmates through lethal injection at a rate of about one per month for more than a year. Roderick Nunley, who kidnapped and killed a Kansas City girl in 1989, was put to death Tuesday evening.

http://m.kmbc.com/news/death-penalty-remains-tough-issue-for-kansas-juries/35072920

 

[BUF]

Frazier Glenn Cross' son testifies about his father in Jewish campus shootings trial

http://www.kshb.com/news/region-kan...t-his-father-in-jewish-campus-shootings-trial

After court interview video with son in here.

 

[Jewels53]

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 2h2 hours ago
Cross trial: Judge Kelly Ryan says Cross cannot bring up to jury that he offered to plead guilty.

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 2h2 hours ago
Cross response: argues, rolls eyes, says he'll appeal. Wants to present evidence of death penalty costs also.

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 2h2 hours ago
DA says jury should not hear about costs of death penalty sentence. Says defense lawyers "gum up" system with costs.

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 1h1 hour ago
Cross prosecutors: death penalty and costs are a "public policy issue, not within the purview of the jury."

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 1h1 hour ago
Judge rules evidence of death penalty costs has "no bearing" on what the jury should consider. Jury won't hear it.

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 36m36 minutes ago
Cross trial: investigator presents Cross's 20 year military record. Hoping to sway jury to give him life, not death.

 

[LinasK]

Death penalty remains tough issue for Kansas juries

Cross, an avowed white supremacist who says his anti-Semitic beliefs prompted him to target Jews at the Jewish Community Center and Village Shalom, is trying to convince the jury to give him a sentence of life in prison instead.

“I don’t think anyone ever wants to go to the execution chamber, and I think he’s among those also. So I think he’ll fight hard to keep that from happening,” said David Langston.

Langston, a defense attorney, said he’s been watching the trial as it has played out in Olathe.
....

Kansas is among 30 states that have not carried out an executive in the last five years. Many states are in a holding pattern as lawyers battle over lethal injection drugs. Some states have backed up lethal injection with other methods, including Utah, which just approved the use of a firing squad last year.

Missouri, Cross’ home state, has been executing inmates through lethal injection at a rate of about one per month for more than a year. Roderick Nunley, who kidnapped and killed a Kansas City girl in 1989, was put to death Tuesday evening.

http://m.kmbc.com/news/death-penalty-remains-tough-issue-for-kansas-juries/35072920

Too bad he didn't commit his crimes in Missouri instead, then he'd get the Death Penalty for sure.:truce:Sorry, Missourians...

 

[Jewels53]

This is the Judge Ryan.

I refuse to post a picture of Cross!

 

[Jewels53]

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 30m30 minutes ago
Cross received many commendations and high evaluations during his military service. #JCCshooting

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 24m24 minutes ago
Cross talks to stand-by lawyer, preparing to take the stand again after morning break. No more witnesses, just Cross.

 

[Jewels53]

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 1m1 minute ago
Cross showing hour long video re: Anti Defamation League, and the "dangers" of hate crime legislation. #JCCshooting

Poor juror's! jmo

 

[LinasK]

Peggy Breit ‏@KMBCPeggy 1m1 minute ago
Cross showing hour long video re: Anti Defamation League, and the "dangers" of hate crime legislation. #JCCshooting

Poor juror's! jmo

Exactly how does showing a video of an extremist Jewish organization that most Jews do not support or his stellar military record justify saving his life???:thinking::waitasec:

 

[BUF]

Too bad he didn't commit his crimes in Missouri instead, then he'd get the Death Penalty for sure.:truce:Sorry, Missourians...

Makes you question if this was intentional on his part.

 

[LinasK]

Makes you question if this was intentional on his part.

Kinda like fleeing to a country you know has no extradition treaty for the Death Penalty???

 

[BUF]

Kinda like fleeing to a country you know has no extradition treaty for the Death Penalty???

The JCC is just over the KS/MO border. Just look on a map.