GUILTY KS - Vashti Seacat, 34, found slain in house fire, Kingman, 30 April 2011 - #1

[Bravo]

Umm yeah left my children in the car in the driveway. Apparently he wasn't worried about anything exploding :banghead: Not that I believe the order in which he tells his "story". I also believe those children were in the car as he did the deed.

 

[raisincharlie]

Make no sense to be why he would run out of the house and take the time to buckle the kids in the car.
He has a phone in his hand.

I would be running away and going to my neighbors and calling at the same time. I would never think to go to the car and buckle the kids in.

He makes no sense.

He had those kids buckled in that car before he shot her and set the house on fire.

BBM - especially for a cop who under stress should be thinking quite clearly. Sure you run out of a burning house, strap the kids into their car seats, throw the dogs in the car as well, with gasoline in the tank sitting near a burning house - sure, happens all the time. Then you run back into a burning house, leaving them no way to escape so you can pretend to burn yourself and suffer smoke inhalation, then call 911. We can all say it - BS. The guy is full of it.

This guy is simple - they had talked about divorce at least two times before this time - this was Vashti's last strike as far as he was concerned - three strikes you're out. This time she was leaving, she'd had enough, he knew she meant it.

 

[Plumeria5]

I missed the beginning of today's testimony. But I'll tell you, his version of the events that night don't stand up to the smell test.

He already had Vashti in his arms, allegedly, he's not going to throw her back on the bed in a burning bedroom. At the least he'd move her into the hallway, before running to the children, to at least get her away from the licking flames.

IMHO, he shot Vashti prior to getting the boys, but hadn't set the house on fire yet. The gunshot probably woke up the kids and he most likely heard them crying for their mom. He rushed into their room and grabbed them, explaining the loud noise was thunder and there was something wrong and he needed to take them to the car or outside. He then buckled them into their seats and then ran back inside to set the fire. I don't think even he would endanger the kids by setting the house on fire before they were out of harms way.

He was most likely already in the home and had just set the fire when he called 911, thus his sounding out of breath. He over reacted in his phone call. He's supposed to be a seasoned LE, they do NOT act out of control in a moment of crisis like he allegedly appeared.

BS said fireman are stupid, or something like that. He had to show how mocho he is by running back into a burning fire and trying to save the day. I'm waiting for the superman cape to be revealed. :facepalm:

By using fire to cover his crime, imho, causes the crime scene to be in chaos, thus destroying any evidence, or at the least, evidence being contaminated by the presence of first responders who'd job is to put the fire out first, then investigate, or discover the victim.

Wonder if the pros was aware he was going to trash the victim like this? An affair with a VP of COX, puhleeze! .............. I wanna' see the proof!

JMHO
fran

Can the VP of Cox sue Brett? Not that he has any money but for defamation of character?

 

[Curious Me]

It is really hard to get any further info on the gun shot location. BBM

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1305/29/ng.01.html

DR. WILLIAM MORRONE: There`s two really big facts in this case. The first thing is, when women are really unstable and depressed, they don`t just kill themselves. They kill the kids first. And then, they can`t live with the grief and then they really do commit suicide. That`s why she didn`t do this. This wasn`t her.

And the second thing is this is a famous gun. This is a .44 Magnum Ruger Redhawk. In 1971, Clint Eastwood made this gun famous with "do you feel lucky" -- women don`t use this gun. Women -- it is too big, it is too powerful. It is in the wrong place. She can`t handle it. She couldn`t have done this. Because of the physical facts and statistics. The science doesn`t add up.

GRACE: And plus, the location of the shooting, it was in the neck, I believe, going downward front to back.

MORRONE: Exactly.

GRACE: Slightly right to left. That`s not how you shoot yourself. Even if a woman in her statistic grouping, when you look at sex, age and all of her other vital statistics, A, wouldn`t shoot herself with a gun to commit suicide. B, wouldn`t do it with her children in the home. C, wouldn`t do it in the face area. And D, wouldn`t be able to cover herself up with the covers after she shoots herself. Do you agree with me, Morrone?

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Okay so as I stepped away and was thinking about this..

If your spouse had shot themselves in the house with your kids and then set the house on fire with them in it, What would be your emotion...

I would be PI$$ED! I would not say.. Oh it was my fault, I did this.. if they had really committed suicide and put our children at risk...

I would be furious...

I would not call people all whiny and sad. Certainly not the marriage counselor. I would have called them and said.. I CAN NOT BELIEVE HE DID THIS!!! WHAT WAS HE THINKING!!!!

See where I am going??? He did this. He is hoping by pointing out what an arse he was when he talked about making it tough on her if she fought what he wanted, he can pull that whole, A jerk does not a murderer make... KWIM?

It is one thing to be sad because your spouse killed themselves.. but another to be completely okay when set the house on fire with your children in it.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Also I feel like she was completely committed to this divorce. I bet that she was really gone and he knew it. She was ready to move on and he could not talk her into more time or more chances..

He was ready to do what he had to to not release her.

 

[KMouse]

OT
Richard Ramirez, the night stalker, is dead at 53 in San Quentin.
boo hoo

 

[Bravo]

OT
Richard Ramirez, the night stalker, is dead at 53 in San Quentin.
boo hoo

How did he die? Was it painful means lease:

 

[Bravo]

Since I'm late getting in on this Trial I was wondering if there was any significant Life Insurance on Vashti? TIA.

 

[seattlechiquita]

HLN playing some of what I missed this morning.

He threatened to publish private photographs of Vashti. What kind of good man is that?

dafuq? What a jerk!

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

What drives me nuts is finding good evidence links or information and time line info. IT is hard to find in this case..

 

[seattlechiquita]

It is really hard to get any further info on the gun shot location. BBM

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1305/29/ng.01.html

DR. WILLIAM MORRONE: There`s two really big facts in this case. The first thing is, when women are really unstable and depressed, they don`t just kill themselves. They kill the kids first. And then, they can`t live with the grief and then they really do commit suicide. That`s why she didn`t do this. This wasn`t her.

And the second thing is this is a famous gun. This is a .44 Magnum Ruger Redhawk. In 1971, Clint Eastwood made this gun famous with "do you feel lucky" -- women don`t use this gun. Women -- it is too big, it is too powerful. It is in the wrong place. She can`t handle it. She couldn`t have done this. Because of the physical facts and statistics. The science doesn`t add up.

GRACE: And plus, the location of the shooting, it was in the neck, I believe, going downward front to back.

MORRONE: Exactly.

GRACE: Slightly right to left. That`s not how you shoot yourself. Even if a woman in her statistic grouping, when you look at sex, age and all of her other vital statistics, A, wouldn`t shoot herself with a gun to commit suicide. B, wouldn`t do it with her children in the home. C, wouldn`t do it in the face area. And D, wouldn`t be able to cover herself up with the covers after she shoots herself. Do you agree with me, Morrone?

BBM... was she found under the covers?

 

[Shelby1]

Since I'm late getting in on this Trial I was wondering if there was any significant Life Insurance on Vashti? TIA.

Even if there was, isn't it void if a person commits suicide? I'm not sure???

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

When hero Brett flies up the stairs and picks up his wife he sees blood at the corner of her mouth. He tells LE that her head was gone. Then he secures the kids, the dogs and cat, the goldfish and parakeet (okay I made this part up) and then dashes back in to do what? Visit his burning wife with no head?

 

[Thundar]

BBM... was she found under the covers?

I believe that she was found covered up......Hummm. Mr. Seacat did not cover that in his testimony.....he should have said he tried to wrap her in a blanket to move her. He might need to go back in his testimony and fix that error.

 

[KMouse]

How did he die? Was it painful means lease:

Conflicting reports of natural causes vs. hepatitis.
as per TMZ

 

[Lori59]

Women statistically do not shoot themselves to commit suicide...never mind, set a fire, call a husband in the house to remove children and then shoot them self in the neck covered up in bed!!! The story is so stupid and not plausible!!!

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

I believe that she was found covered up......Hummm. Mr. Seacat did not cover that in his testimony.....he should have said he tried to wrap her in a blanket to move her. He might need to go back in his testimony and fix that error.

Thundar don't give BS any help until after he has committed to his 'story'.

 

[Thundar]

When hero Brett flies up the stairs and picks up his wife he sees blood at the corner of her mouth. He tells LE that her head was gone. Then he secures the kids, the dogs and cat, the goldfish and parakeet (okay I made this part up) and then dashes back in to do what? Visit his burning wife with no head?

Yah, no dashing going on at all. I bet he was upset that the volunteer fire department saved more than the house's foundation.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

Yup, that's exactly what I think he's trying to insinuate. Why would V close the door and turn off the lamp - only to make it harder for anyone to rescue them.

It's all BS IMHO.

MOO

Mel

Makes me sick. As sick as when Jodi was accusing TA of being a kiddie perv.